Carl Edwards is a moron

#51
#51
That's not hard racing. That's a guy with a few screws loose that can't let something go that should have been settled already.

This is what I'm tired of by Nascar fans. You want wrecks, you want hard racing, you want controversy, you want grudges. Yet the first time something happens each and everyone of you whine and complain and beg for fines or suspensions. I have no problem whats so ever with the wreck. If Brad K didn't want to be turned he should never have bumped Carl in the first place.

Oh and Bob Keselowski needs to keep his damn mouth shut, the whole, "I'm getting my firesuit and ending this" comment was way out of line. Nascar better pull Bob's pass same as Joey's dad. If they don't have a talking too with Bob and pull his pass then its a clear double standard. Bob has no place in this at all, he pulled the same stunt Joey's dad did so Nascar better step in.
 
#52
#52
I saw that coming. Brad moved him in the corner and Carl got pissed. Brad could have wrecked him and he didn't and wanted to race for the W. I don't have a dog in this fight but Carl's move tonight was pretty dirty.
 
#53
#53
That's not hard racing. That's a guy with a few screws loose that can't let something go that should have been settled already.

I agree completely. If anyone thinks what Edwards did tonight was "hard racing" or "one of those racing deals" then they need to be checked out as well because the eleavator don't go all the way to the top. HE TURNED DEAD LEFT INTO BRAD'S CAR ON THE STRAIGHAWAY!!!!
 
#54
#54
I'm tired of this.

People Nascar said that the gloves can come off and boys have at it racing. If they don't like it they should never have changed the rules in the first place. I have no problem with beating and banging and if you have to put a car into the wall if your going for the win. Plus you got to remember the bad blood between the two and Brad K's little attempt to push Carl out of the lead earlier. Get over it people, its hard racing.

turning left into somebody on the front straight isn't hard racing. it wasn't hard racing in Atlanta and it wasn't hard racing tonight.

to suggest it was anything but Carl felacting himself is utterly foolish and beyond comprehension.

Plus you all whine and complain when drivers act conservatively and try and not stir up controversy, and when the finally do you say they need to be fined, suspended, etc.

You whine and complained to Nascar to lighten the rules on hard racing yet at the first serious example you again whine and complain. Pick a side and stick to it...

this isn't the first serious example.

Edwards turning dead left into Keselowski and sending a car into the air at 195 mph was serious. So was a car going into the air at the same speed at Talladega, scattering parts in the crowd. one was an accident. the other was wasn't.

this is you grasping at air.

This is what I'm tired of by Nascar fans. You want wrecks, you want hard racing, you want controversy, you want grudges. Yet the first time something happens each and everyone of you whine and complain and beg for fines or suspensions. I have no problem whats so ever with the wreck. If Brad K didn't want to be turned he should never have bumped Carl in the first place.

Oh and Bob Keselowski needs to keep his damn mouth shut, the whole, "I'm getting my firesuit and ending this" comment was way out of line. Nascar better pull Bob's pass same as Joey's dad. If they don't have a talking too with Bob and pull his pass then its a clear double standard. Bob has no place in this at all, he pulled the same stunt Joey's dad did so Nascar better step in.

you must have missed the part where the driver side door was a bulls-eye for other cars barreling down on it.

Carl Edwards only loves Carl Edwards. you don't have to defend him.

these might be the single 3 dumbest things i have ever read in this forum. at least you got the part right about fathers staying away from the spot light.

stick to worrying about where Kasey Kahne is running next year. this is over your head.
 
#55
#55
If NASCAR lets this keep happening, somebody's gonna end up dead. I hear Bob's racing at ORP next week.
 
#57
#57
turning left into somebody on the front straight isn't hard racing. it wasn't hard racing in Atlanta and it wasn't hard racing tonight.

to suggest it was anything but Carl felacting himself is utterly foolish and beyond comprehension.



this isn't the first serious example.

Edwards turning dead left into Keselowski and sending a car into the air at 195 mph was serious. So was a car going into the air at the same speed at Talladega, scattering parts in the crowd. one was an accident. the other was wasn't.

this is you grasping at air.



you must have missed the part where the driver side door was a bulls-eye for other cars barreling down on it.

Carl Edwards only loves Carl Edwards. you don't have to defend him.

these might be the single 3 dumbest things i have ever read in this forum. at least you got the part right about fathers staying away from the spot light.

stick to worrying about where Kasey Kahne is running next year. this is over your head.

So your basically telling me you want to return to the boring style of racing we had for years where drivers to just kept their traps shut and ran around in circles? Where they didn't try and make anyone mad?

Let's face it last night's race was one of the most exciting by far, but hi, if you want to complain about wrecking a guy then maybe Nascar will once again listen to its knee jerk reaction fans.
 
#58
#58
So your basically telling me you want to return to the boring style of racing we had for years where drivers to just kept their traps shut and ran around in circles? Where they didn't try and make anyone mad?

Let's face it last night's race was one of the most exciting by far, but hi, if you want to complain about wrecking a guy then maybe Nascar will once again listen to its knee jerk reaction fans.

no, i'm telling you that you don't have any clue what you're talking about.

but hi, if you want to keep running your trap, i won't stop you.
 
#59
#59
no, i'm telling you that you don't have any clue what you're talking about.

but hi, if you want to keep running your trap, i won't stop you.

Let's establish the fact that if Brad K hadn't gotten into Carl then there would have been no need for payback. Carl had the right to return the favor and he did so. Perhaps next time Brad K will either seal and the deal turn whoever it is around or do half assed like last night and set himself up for a little payback.

But hi let's agree to disagree. Oh and Nascar agrees that it was just hard racing on the last lap :thumbsup:
 
#60
#60
Let's establish the fact that if Brad K hadn't gotten into Carl then there would have been no need for payback. Carl had the right to return the favor and he did so. Perhaps next time Brad K will either seal and the deal turn whoever it is around or do half assed like last night and set himself up for a little payback.

But hi let's agree to disagree. Oh and Nascar agrees that it was just hard racing on the last lap :thumbsup:

agreeing to disagree is admitting being wrong. i'll pass.

it's one thing to get into a guy because you're running hard. it's another thing to turn dead left into a guy with 43 other cars barreling down on them coming to the checkered flag.

like it was said above, these guys, and probably Edwards especially, are going to kill somebody if they keep this up.

but hi, Carl loves Carl. he doesn't care.

NASCAR car changes their mind on governing more that a 6 year old in a candy store. but that a whole different issue.

you can stop now.
 
#61
#61
Let's establish the fact that if Brad K hadn't gotten into Carl then there would have been no need for payback. Carl had the right to return the favor and he did so. Perhaps next time Brad K will either seal and the deal turn whoever it is around or do half assed like last night and set himself up for a little payback.

But hi let's agree to disagree. Oh and Nascar agrees that it was just hard racing on the last lap :thumbsup:

I'm fine with beating and banging, but Carl has wrecked Brad in 2 of the most vulnerable ways. Brad isn't a choir boy by any means, but Carl always wrecks people and then gets out and laughs it off and offers a "sorry".

I'm fine with being aggressive, but there's no point in tearing up equipment for it. Especially at the expense of teams like ML Motorsports who is running on a low budget. If you have a problem with someone handle it other than wrecking each other repeatedly.
 
#62
#62
Next Saturday could get good. I got this from another board.



Quote from: Brain Keselowski
I would love to put my dad in a car and let him have at it. He would have Carl crying all the way home.
Quote from: Brain Keselowski
I got a car and will request the 29 next week.
Quote from: Brain Keselowski
Just need a little cash to get it all to come together, The problem may be getting bob to pass the physical. He was as mad as I've seen him in a long time though. He may will his way into it. I'm all for it.
 
#63
#63
Maybe if it was another two drivers, you could chalk it up "just racing". Carl Edwards is not only retarded, he's unstable to go on top of it.
 
#64
#64
I don't see Nascar clearing Bob Keselowski to race, when they know his only purpose is to go out and wreck someone.
 
#66
#66
I don't see Nascar clearing Bob Keselowski to race, when they know his only purpose is to go out and wreck someone.

Yeah it makes for good fan talk but I doubt we'll see him on the entry list. I still stand by the fact that Nascar needs to pull Bob's pass and have a talk like they did for Joey's dad.
 
#67
#67
Yeah it makes for good fan talk but I doubt we'll see him on the entry list. I still stand by the fact that Nascar needs to pull Bob's pass and have a talk like they did for Joey's dad.

In Bob's defense ESPN sought after him. Unlike Tom, who threw himself into the action.

As for Brad having his dad fight his battles, I'd say he'll tell Bob to stay out of it Saturday night.
 
#68
#68
i never pay much attention to nascar, but i got interested by seeing the replays on tv ... i guess that's what nascar is going for ......
 
#69
#69
This is what I'm tired of by Nascar fans. You want wrecks, you want hard racing, you want controversy, you want grudges. Yet the first time something happens each and everyone of you whine and complain and beg for fines or suspensions. I have no problem whats so ever with the wreck. If Brad K didn't want to be turned he should never have bumped Carl in the first place.

Oh and Bob Keselowski needs to keep his damn mouth shut, the whole, "I'm getting my firesuit and ending this" comment was way out of line. Nascar better pull Bob's pass same as Joey's dad. If they don't have a talking too with Bob and pull his pass then its a clear double standard. Bob has no place in this at all, he pulled the same stunt Joey's dad did so Nascar better step in.


I think when Brad got into Carl it was hard racing. He was racing hard for the lead, stayed in the throttle and couldn't hold his line in the turn and drifted into Edwards. That's the hard racing that fans want to see. Carl, on the other hand, used a cheap move to win that race. Not only could Brad have gotten hurt being exposed in front of a pack of cars running to the flag but he also tore up several race cars that will now have to be fixed. I have to imagine several teams aren't too happy with fixing their car because Carl Edwards isn't man enough to race Brad to the flag.

I don't have a problem this time with Brad's dad being on tv only because they sought him out and otherwise he wouldn't have been in that situation. I agree though on Joey's dad fighting his battles.
 
#70
#70
What went through Carl's mind after being bumped by Brad K is the same thing that goes through every other drivers head in that moment, "I got bumped by this driver who stole the lead from me, so I'm either going to win this race, or make sure he doesn't." Jeff Gordon at Martinsville and Jimmie Johnson at New Hampshire are good examples. Carl's thinking wasn't really anything different, at least not in that aspect.
 
#71
#71
Carl Edwards is trash. I hope someday soon he slips while going into that stupid backflip and comes down on his head. Of course he would have to win, and I hope he never wins another race.
 
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#72
#72
Yeah it makes for good fan talk but I doubt we'll see him on the entry list. I still stand by the fact that Nascar needs to pull Bob's pass and have a talk like they did for Joey's dad.
Maybe they should have a sit down with the pit reporter who stuck a camera in his face right after that dumbass wrecked his son yet again.
 
#73
#73
What went through Carl's mind after being bumped by Brad K is the same thing that goes through every other drivers head in that moment, "I got bumped by this driver who stole the lead from me, so I'm either going to win this race, or make sure he doesn't." Jeff Gordon at Martinsville and Jimmie Johnson at New Hampshire are good examples. Carl's thinking wasn't really anything different, at least not in that aspect.

Did you see JG or JJ come back and turn left on the straightaway and put the guy in the wall?
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#74
#74
Did you see JG or JJ come back and turn left on the straightaway and put the guy in the wall?
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That's why I said it was pretty normal thinking, to a point. Carl obviously turned it up a notch.
 

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