Carter: Bush's Impact 'Worst in History'

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hatvol96 said:
1. Obviously you are forgetting the soldiers who died attempting to execute the idiotic rescue plan put together by Carter's moronic Department of Defense.
2. Carter's cowardice in dealing with Iran, coupled with Reagan's awful decision to leave Lebanon with out tails between our legs, is exactly what emboldened the Islamofascists to the point where they believed they could actually take action against America without suffering serious consequences.
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You mean you didn't like the imaginative helicopter at night plan?
 
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All Vol! said:
Ouch, Jimmy! Is he as bad as all that? :popcorn:

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:crazy:. Carter was the worst president of our lifetime. He didn't do alot to help us and he is the normal democrat that will criticize the republican in the media for some face time. Oh yeah Mr. Carter, how about the monumental failure of one of the cabinets you created namely the Department of Education. You really got it right with that one. :good!:
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
:crazy:. Carter was the worst president of our lifetime. He didn't do alot to help us and he is the normal democrat that will criticize the republican in the media for some face time. Oh yeah Mr. Carter, how about the monumental failure of one of the cabinets you created namely the Department of Education. You really got it right with that one. :good!:
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No, Bush is, but Carter is a close second. Normal democrat?????????? Typical redneck repubican uninformed statement
 
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All Vol! said:
as has been pointed out. The prevailing point is that it is at least silly for one to suggest that Carter's handling of the Iran hostage crisis somehow warrants harsher comment than GWB's war.
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How about the fact that much of the terrorism problem we have today stems from the power the mullahs garnered by staring us down. We solidified the lunatics' hold on power by allowing them to stare us down and live to tell about it. We're today reaping the benefits of that inaction.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
How about the fact that much of the terrorism problem we have today stems from the power the mullahs garnered by staring us down. We solidified the lunatics' hold on power by allowing them to stare us down and live to tell about it. We're today reaping the benefits of that inaction.
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I think the inaction, is more attributable to Clinton, than Carter.

Under Clinton, you have the:
First WTC Bombing
USS Cole
Kohbar Towers
African Embassy Bombings
 
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truefan said:
No, Bush is, but Carter is a close second. Normal democrat?????????? Typical redneck repubican uninformed statement
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bush is the worst president of my lifetime, then again i wasn't born until 83, and honestly, i haven't been fond of any of them.

and seriously, saying something like "typical redneck republican uninformed statement" doesn't make you look much more informed.
 
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emainvol said:
bush is the worst president of my lifetime, then again i wasn't born until 83, and honestly, i haven't been fond of any of them.

and seriously, saying something like "typical redneck republican uninformed statement" doesn't make you look much more informed.
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Several posters in here weighing on which President is worse weren't alive during the Carter administration.
 
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yep, and if i were a mean person i would call them out, but hopefully they have the sense to realize that they don't know what they are talking about, and they will refrain from posting anything else regarding jimmy carter.

and just because you were three minutes old when reagan took over doesn't make you the foremost authority.
 
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emainvol said:
yep, and if i were a mean person i would call them out, but hopefully they have the sense to realize that they don't know what they are talking about, and they will refrain from posting anything else regarding jimmy carter.
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I was young, but I can remember plenty from the Carter Administration. Between getting jacked around by the Iranians, being bombarded with stories about the energy crisis and the fact that Disco was popular, even a 7 or 8 year old could pick up on the fact that things weren't going well.
 
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1. The economy is good, though these high gas prices will eventually take a toll. No one is on pins a needles about the market right now. You may see an article about correction, but if correction means falling back to 11500 or 12000 investors will not shy away.

2. There is no broad civil unrest regarding the war. I am convinced that most people still actually want to win this time around.

3. People still recognize and despise the backbone that Bush has. No he is certainly not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but the nation does not feel helpless. Helplessness was the general mood in 79.

Eventually the Bush will have to answer for the way he fought this war, and that will play out in the history books. However history will never be as kind to Carter as it will be to Bush.
 
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I'm going to start referring to Jimmy Carter as "Captain Obvious".
 
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GAVol said:
That's what I don't think people understand; especially those that didn't live through it.
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The entire Nation was held hostage. Unless you lived through it there is no way to know how that felt. I was in third grade, and to a large degree it still shapes the way I think about foriegn policy.

Carter did nothing.
 
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We're about the same age then. I was in Second grade. It may seem absurd to people that 7 and 8 year olds could possibly know what was going on, but it was all that was on the news for over a year every single night.
 
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In creative writing I wrote a story about flying the Millenum Falcon to Iran and rescuing the hostages. It ended up in the local paper.
 
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duckman398686 said:
You know it's not good when even Carter is saying how bad the president is.
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Why do the comments of a delusional, self promoting failure carry any weight? Carter is as relevant to a conversation about the competency of a president as Sanjaya is to a discussion of the merits of individual singers.
 
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Lexvol said:
Helplessness was the general mood in 79.
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I was in high school. This is a great characterization of the Carter-era. Vietnam and Watergate were the cracks in the wall. Inflation and the gas embargo during the Ford admin added to the feeling. Carter did nothing to reverse the trend and his handling of the economy and international affairs made the mood worse. Nothing was going particularly well and Carter was weak and ineffective at changing things. It just added to the feeling that things were going to continue to be bad. Reagan effectively slapped everyone around and said screw this, we are the US and we're going to get back to the way it was.

To contrast, Bush has had highs (immediately post 9/11) and has taken aggressive actions (some good some bad). The mood is different now. It is not a feeling that America is the problem but rather than the leadership is. The nation is tremendously more positive than it was during Carter's admin.
 
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