CBJ's Offense

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jkleno said:
From ESPN interview 2/24/2010:
How much difference is there between your offensive philosophy and Kelly's? You both run a high-tempo spread.

BJ: I think with any offensive system there's little nuances, philosophically speaking. But there are a lot of similarities in terms of being a no-huddle, being a spread. It's a lot of the same schemes, just the terminology is different. There will be some subtle changes here and there. I think that's only natural with each coaching staff. And you rely on the different backgrounds of the coaches you have on staff. So there will be some differences, but also lot of similarities as well.
I was going by what the coach said. I did not realize the word "power" was so important.
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Just pickin at cha man , dont get all serious on me. :)
 
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Vol8188 said:
CBJ called it a "pro style spread". I've never seen him proclaim to be a "power spread team".

We rarely ever run power. Auburn runs power a lot. We run zone a lot.
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I would guess 90% of Volnation remembers him calling it the power spread. I think it was in his opening press conference when he was hired. Its just got a nice ring to it.
 
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Pete Carroll is really struggling with adapting to a dual threat QB in Seattle. Fact is that the pros don't run traditional pro-style offenses. How many times do you see Peyton under center.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I've also wondered how Hurd will be used. He's more of a north to south runner and our offense typically runs outside.
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Tennessee does not running Oregon's offense, most of the runs have been right up the middle. Not to the outside. Now Neal he likes to take it outside, because he can't really find the hole (He doesn't have good vision). So please stop thinking just because Neal likes to break it outside, we run to the outside. :dry:
 
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Vol8188 said:
CBJ called it a "pro style spread". I've never seen him proclaim to be a "power spread team".

We rarely ever run power. Auburn runs power a lot. We run zone a lot.
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Q: At your introductory news conference you said you run the "power spread." Can you explain the power spread and why you think that will be successful? Also, how do you think your personnel at quarterback and wide receiver meshes with that scheme?

A (Jones): "You know what, I can tell you that's the first time I've heard 'power spread,' and I like it. We may start using that. The spread offense is a misused term and overused term. What is the definition of the spread? When I think of a spread I think of a finesse offense. I like that term 'power spread.'
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Greeson: UT Vols coach Butch Jones answers questions | timesfreepress.com
 
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Vol8188 said:
So I was correct. CBJ did not use this term. If you go back to his introductory press conference he talks about being a pro style spread offense.
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True. I wasn't trying to correct you; just show where the term was introduced to him, and he liked it.

:hi:
 
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This is not a power spread offense. If anything Kelly's offense has more power to it then CBJ does. At Cincy CBJ's avg WR he recruited was 6 foot even where Kelly's at Cincy was 6'2". Kelly had more success with bigger WR as he really likes to get his QBs out on roll out plays, where CBJ likes a straight pocket passer with the ability to scramble. For those thinking I'm full of skat here is a link with the statistics comparing CBJ to Kelly offensive wise.

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 3 - Down The Drive
 
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Vol8188 said:
From the games I've recorded, it looks like we run a lot more stretch than inside zone. He just reads the de and turns back inside most of the time (which is to be expected).
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I think u get a better look from watching lane because he reads blocks better. Granted it might be different playcalling but he reads playside DT and cuts. Neal has always had a tendency to not hit the hole consistently.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I've also wondered how Hurd will be used. He's more of a north to south runner and our offense typically runs outside.
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its not our offense ...its the opposing defenses. They are attacking the interior gaps ...funneling everything to the outside...where by the nature of the game it is easier to stop .

This will stop when we can pass in the intermediate range with a degree of consistency.
 
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Chaney did not run a traditional pro style offense the past 3 years.

He did his first season here in '10. That's was Kiffin's preferred scheme, and why he told Tajh Boyd that he wouldn't play QB here. And supposedly also why the QB at Baylor didn't come.

Chaney was a spread guy at Purdue, but had to adopt to using the Pro Style in the pros, so he had no problem with running it at UT while LK was here.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
True. I wasn't trying to correct you; just show where the term was introduced to him, and he liked it.

:hi:
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Erik Ainge of all people brought the term up to Butch in an interview...and he loved it.
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For the record, I've never heard Butch Jones refer to his offense as a spread while the head coach at Tennessee, even though it could potentially qualify as one. He specifically referred to it as a PS offense in his introductory press conference, team meeting, and Kesling interview. For those that think running the PS offense means taking every snap from under center and having roughly 8000 linemen and TEs on the field a la Stanford, you are incorrect. Peyton Manning runs a hurry-up, no huddle offense featuring either 4 wides and one offset back or 3 wides, a TE, and the offset back. It is very decidedly a PS offense.
 
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butchna said:
Seriously?...have you seen current photos? Any thicker and he WON'T be a RB..sounds like an end around to make him a TE or LB Edit...my point on this is he's set at running back...no need for further bulking up
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So his current bulk worked well for him this season, huh?

I'm just saying....
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
Chaney did not run a traditional pro style offense the past 3 years.

He did his first season here in '10. That's was Kiffin's preferred scheme, and why he told Tajh Boyd that he wouldn't play QB here. And supposedly also why the QB at Baylor didn't come.

Chaney was a spread guy at Purdue, but had to adopt to using the Pro Style in the pros, so he had no problem with running it at UT while LK was here.
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He was a crappy oline coach for a terrible rams team in the NFL. What we saw in 11-12 was a Joe Tiller offense.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I've also wondered how Hurd will be used. He's more of a north to south runner and our offense typically runs outside.
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disagree, we may try to run ouside occ. but it is mostly Neal trying to break to the outside. Hurd runs outside as much as Auburn did against us, he is big strong and fast, fits perfect
 
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jkleno said:
I realize CBJ's prefers to run the no huddle, "spread" offense. Over the past few decades, Tennessee has been a "pro style" offense. Will CBJ be looking only at dual threat QB's in the future? How does a RB the size of Hurd play into a "spread" offense versus an All Purpose Back (APB) in a spread offense. What brings me to these questions is that I read USC is NOT interested in Kevin Sumlin because of his offense philosophy and the use of "dual threat" QB versus USC's historical "pro style" QB's. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hurd strikes me as the kind of guy that when it comes to running an offense it doesn't matter who he is behind..he gonna steamroll some fools.
 
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volomon said:
disagree, we may try to run ouside occ. but it is mostly Neal trying to break to the outside. Hurd runs outside as much as Auburn did against us, he is big strong and fast, fits perfect
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I don't think people understand that. Most of the Neal outside running is him avoiding the hole that most likely wasnt opened or the one he missed...not a drawn up play.
 
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SCvol333 said:
oh and there is no style of football for which Mr. Hurd is not a fit
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This. If he was a slower plodding power back ok, I get the concern. But he's not. He's an elite athlete with great speed and size. He fits in any offense IMO.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
For the record, I've never heard Butch Jones refer to his offense as a spread while the head coach at Tennessee, even though it could potentially qualify as one. He specifically referred to it as a PS offense in his introductory press conference, team meeting, and Kesling interview. For those that think running the PS offense means taking every snap from under center and having roughly 8000 linemen and TEs on the field a la Stanford, you are incorrect. Peyton Manning runs a hurry-up, no huddle offense featuring either 4 wides and one offset back or 3 wides, a TE, and the offset back. It is very decidedly a PS offense.
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Watch the interview again. He uses the terms pro style, spread, and up tempo to describe his offense.
 
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