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#52
#52
That one ballot is just someone trying to get attention. That dude just lost credibility if he had it to start.
 
#56
#56
Same. Also all of the other voters have HH as #1 and that guy not only didn’t have him as #1, but kept him out entirely and put the TCU dude in. I have no beef with TCU but their undefeated schedule doesn’t look like ours and they are probably gonna lose to Texas and maybe another game besides.
They have 4 wins vs top 25 teams at the time of playing, same as us. They have 2 wins vs teams that are still in the top 25, same as us. They have a top 3 resume YTD.
 
#64
#64
UGA is recruiting just fine without a Heisman winner and Louisville hasn’t exactly set the recruiting world on fire since Lamar Jackson won
Georgia always recruits well because of location, while Louisville doesn’t have the natural advantages to take advantage, and they were an 8-4 team when Jackson won, which negated the inevitability of them rising up to the top.

They are different situations from where we are at. We haven’t been a national factor in over 20 years. To finish 12-0 or 11-1 and the Heisman puts an exclamation point on our season. If we were in a prime location where we didn’t have to rely on our of state kids like UGA, then itt would be different.

The Heisman isn’t a huge deal, but it would be nice to actually win one and Hendon Hooker deserves the recognition that comes with it. It would be positive news for the program.
 
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#65
#65
He's playing really good football.
Not like Hendon Hooker, but who is?

CJ Stroud....28 passing TD's (on a pace to challenge Joe Burrow), 207.2 passing rating (By far the highest), and a 72 completion rate, and the guy rarely plays 3 quarters.
 
#66
#66
Stroud will win regardless of what Hooker does imo. Unless he somehow loses to Michigan.

Losing to Michigan and missing the Big 10 Championship is the only thing that might cost Stroud the Heisman. He could lose to Penn State this weekend or another before then but if he beats Michigan and wins the conference title, the Heisman is his. The media has already determined he's going to win. I'm not even one of those "ESPN hates us" or "all media that doesn't agree with me is literally worse than Satan" types but just listening or reading what the talking heads are saying, it's been pretty clear.

Hooker will have to beat UGA and the West Champion to win the Heisman. Anything less and it's over.
 
#67
#67
UGA is recruiting just fine without a Heisman winner and Louisville hasn’t exactly set the recruiting world on fire since Lamar Jackson won

There’s this guy named Herschel Walker, maybe you’ve heard of him? Lately he’s been making news as a politician, but once upon a time he won the Heisman at Georgia.
 
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#69
#69
Yeah I have nothing against TCU but if they make the play-offs, they’ll get blown out by whatever SEC or Big10 team they get matched with. Same with Clemson. They’re overrated this year imo.

Clemson has issues at QB true, but other than that they are every bit as talented as anyone else. Several 1st/2nd round picks on both sides of the ball. They most definitely are not overrated.
 
#71
#71
If Stroud edges out Hooker, that will be our 4th runner-up. The madness must stop!


"Four Vols have come in second, but none has ever won. Tennessee has had many candidates for the Heisman over the years, starting when George Cafego, the top pick in the 1940 NFL Draft, finished fourth in the 1939 Heisman balloting. Two of the four runners-up came close, the other two did not.

Hank Lauricella in 1951 finished a distant second to Dick Kazmaier of Princeton. Lauricella was the Vols’ single-wing tailback who led the team to some version of a national championship in both 1950 and 1951.

In 1956, Johnny Majors lost a very close vote to Paul Hornung of Notre Dame, 1066–994. This was controversial because Tennessee had gone 10–0 and Notre Dame went 2–8, but the only reason either had a chance was because two different players from national champion Oklahoma finished third and fourth, with 973 and 724 points. Third-place finisher Tommy McDonald had more first-place votes than either Hornung or Majors. If the Sooners had promoted just one player for the Heisman, they’d have probably taken this one.

In 1993, Heath Shuler finished second to Charlie Ward in the same sense that Germany finished second in World War II, 2310–688 in points.

Four years later, Peyton Manning finished second to Michigan’s Charles Woodson, 1815–1543. This one is still being argued about today anywhere college football history is discussed. Manning appeared to be on his way to winning until Woodson had a spectacular game against Ohio State late in the regular season."
 
#72
#72
"Four Vols have come in second, but none has ever won. Tennessee has had many candidates for the Heisman over the years, starting when George Cafego, the top pick in the 1940 NFL Draft, finished fourth in the 1939 Heisman balloting. Two of the four runners-up came close, the other two did not.

Hank Lauricella in 1951 finished a distant second to Dick Kazmaier of Princeton. Lauricella was the Vols’ single-wing tailback who led the team to some version of a national championship in both 1950 and 1951.

In 1956, Johnny Majors lost a very close vote to Paul Hornung of Notre Dame, 1066–994. This was controversial because Tennessee had gone 10–0 and Notre Dame went 2–8, but the only reason either had a chance was because two different players from national champion Oklahoma finished third and fourth, with 973 and 724 points. Third-place finisher Tommy McDonald had more first-place votes than either Hornung or Majors. If the Sooners had promoted just one player for the Heisman, they’d have probably taken this one.

In 1993, Heath Shuler finished second to Charlie Ward in the same sense that Germany finished second in World War II, 2310–688 in points.

Four years later, Peyton Manning finished second to Michigan’s Charles Woodson, 1815–1543. This one is still being argued about today anywhere college football history is discussed. Manning appeared to be on his way to winning until Woodson had a spectacular game against Ohio State late in the regular season."

Of course I wish Peyton Manning had won the award, but Woodson did end up having a stellar career himself in the pros. The Heisman seems to go QBs almost all of the time now, and a lot of them seem to not work out long term. Kind of wish more players from other positions were in the mix more often.
 
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#75
#75
Cross was on a SEC show with Charles Davis and David Pollock on Fox a number of years ago. He never had anything good to say about Tennessee.
 
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