CFP First Round: #10 Indiana @ #7 Notre Dame (8PM ABC/ESPN)

My favorite part of the game was pre game show and Saban getting called Alabama Jones. He got laid out on tv and looked pissed as hell and had to take it.
 
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Who did UT play? I hate Alabama, but I don’t get what you are saying.
Bama keeps acting as tho their OOC schedule was brutal. They keep saying they won’t schedule any tough OOC teams going forward. They didn’t this year. Their OOC schedule had nothing to do with them missing the playoffs.
 
Who wouldn’t take S Carolina, Ole Miss, LSU, or FL against that Indiana team right now? Maybe Mizzou and Vandy too?

What a damn joke they were even involved after that pathetic schedule they played.
Indiana propped up OSU and PSU while allowing ND to avoid embarrassment in the postseason for a change. Win win for the committee.

At least Indiana didn't lose at home to a 7-5 MAC team. That loss should have disqualified ND from hosting in combination with not playing in a conference.
 
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Who wouldn’t take S Carolina, Ole Miss, LSU, or FL against that Indiana team right now? Maybe Mizzou and Vandy too?

What a damn joke they were even involved after that pathetic schedule they played.
Could not have said it any better
 
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The committee didn’t have any choice on the byes. You can blame the conferences and powers to be for that. They’re the ones who agreed to the byes going to the four highest rated conference champions.

You're right on that, and my blame goes to Sankey for selling out and signing off on this foolishness. He's obsessed with automatic bids for the SEC, but what he should be pounding the table for is much more emphasis on strength of schedule, which would negate the need for auto bids. If SOS was more important than the ridiculous "strength of record", there would have been at least five SEC teams in this thing.

And however many 'auto bids' the SEC gets would have to be equal to the Big 10 because of Sankey essentially going in business with them, which is absurd when you compare the conferences.

The byes given to Boise and ASU just completely f***k the event up, as we're going to see if Penn State and Texas waltz in their first two games. Aside from UT winning, there's nothing I'd love to see more than SMU beating Penn State's ass, but the officiating in that game should be off the charts.
 
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The old bama caller on the Finebaum show called this game right. Ole Legend said that these games would be boring. He was right about this one. What a snooze fest. He's half crazy most of the time but he nailed this one.
 
I turned it off after the first quarter.

Without having seen it, IMO Notre Dame gave Indiana a couple of 'save face' scores very late.
 
I turned it off after the first quarter.

Without having seen it, IMO Notre Dame gave Indiana a couple of 'save face' scores very late.

The definition of taking your foot off the gas. Allows the powers that be to try to justify Indiana being in this thing.
 
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Bama already has an easy OOC schedule. When Bama's lips are moving they are lying.

Bama does not have those games scheduled. Bama's lips were moving.


You don’t have to like Bama but they DO have OOC games scheduled with those teams in the future

Whether they will back out now that the CFP has rewarded soft schedules remains to be seen
 


You don’t have to like Bama but they DO have OOC games scheduled with those teams in the future

Whether they will back out now that the CFP has rewarded soft schedules remains to be seen

They didn’t lose to an OOC team. They lost to two of the weakest teams in the SEC. The strength of schedule argument is absurd.
 
They didn’t lose to an OOC team. They lost to two of the weakest teams in the SEC. The strength of schedule argument is absurd.
I hate having to say this AGAIN but I will for the fortieth time:

1. Alabama does not deserve to be in the playoffs this year, they couldn’t handle business in the SEC and with three losses, two to barely bowl eligible teams, they did not earn a spot. I do not dispute that and only hardcore Bama cultists say otherwise

2. The way the CFP rewarded teams with bad SOS has absolutely caused problems and will in the future. There is NO incentive for teams to play tougher OOC opponents, especially if you are in the SEC. If teams that don’t play top teams get in or higher seeded over other teams that did, why would teams in the future make things harder on themselves? As an SEC team that has to play the likes of Georgia, Alabama, and so on, I honestly hope Tennessee schedules nothing but cupcakes in OOC because why should we schedule harder teams if there is no benefit and teams like Indiana will go 11-1 playing no one and be guaranteed a spot?

That is the point I am making. Alabama has two tough OOC opponents scheduled in the future. I honestly believe they should cancel those because why would they make their schedule harder if SOS doesn’t matter?

I’m looking at the future. If they don’t actually start taking SOS into account then good teams will get screwed and crappy teams will take their place, no one wants to watch about poser make it to the Championship
 
I hate having to say this AGAIN but I will for the fortieth time:

1. Alabama does not deserve to be in the playoffs this year, they couldn’t handle business in the SEC and with three losses, two to barely bowl eligible teams, they did not earn a spot. I do not dispute that and only hardcore Bama cultists say otgerwuse

2. The way the CFP rewarded teams with bad SOS has absolutely caused problems and will in the future. There is NO incentive for teams to play tougher OOC opponents, especially if you are in the SEC. If teams that don’t play top teams get in or higher seeded over other teams that did, why would teams in the future make things harder on themselves? As an SEC team that has to play the likes of Georgia, Alabama, and so on, I honestly hope Tennessee schedules nothing but cupcakes in OOC because why should we schedule harder teams if there is no benefit and teams like Indiana will go 11-1 playing no one and be guaranteed a spot?

That is the point I am making. Alabama has two tough OOC opponents scheduled in the future. I honestly believe they should cancel those because why would they make their schedule harder if SOS doesn’t matter?

You didn’t have to type all that
 
I hate having to say this AGAIN but I will for the fortieth time:

1. Alabama does not deserve to be in the playoffs this year, they couldn’t handle business in the SEC and with three losses, two to barely bowl eligible teams, they did not earn a spot. I do not dispute that and only hardcore Bama cultists say otherwise

2. The way the CFP rewarded teams with bad SOS has absolutely caused problems and will in the future. There is NO incentive for teams to play tougher OOC opponents, especially if you are in the SEC. If teams that don’t play top teams get in or higher seeded over other teams that did, why would teams in the future make things harder on themselves? As an SEC team that has to play the likes of Georgia, Alabama, and so on, I honestly hope Tennessee schedules nothing but cupcakes in OOC because why should we schedule harder teams if there is no benefit and teams like Indiana will go 11-1 playing no one and be guaranteed a spot?

That is the point I am making. Alabama has two tough OOC opponents scheduled in the future. I honestly believe they should cancel those because why would they make their schedule harder if SOS doesn’t matter?

I’m looking at the future. If they don’t actually start taking SOS into account then good teams will get screwed and crappy teams will take their place, no one wants to watch about poser make it to the Championship

It is not about OOC games, it's about the disparity of quality teams in the conferences. As long as the SEC is as deep as it is and the other "Power 4" leagues go maybe 2-3 deep with decent teams, if that, then any playoff system similar to this one will be unfair.

Everyone is letting Bama hate color their feelings, but next season it could very well be us if the rules don't change. And I promise that all of you saying that Bama (or Ole Miss or USCe) doesn't deserve to be in the playoff will be screaming bloody murder if we're one of that group that is left out. This isn't about Alabama.
 
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It is not about OOC games, it's about the disparity of quality teams in the conferences. As long as the SEC is as deep as it is and the other "Power 4" leagues go maybe 2-3 deep with decent teams, if that, then any playoff system similar to this one will be unfair.

Everyone is letting Bama hate color their feelings, but next season it could very well be us if the rules don't change. And I promise that all of you saying that Bama (or Ole Miss or USCe) doesn't deserve to be in the playoff will be screaming bloody murder if we're one of that group that is left out. This isn't about Alabama.
I agree completely, that’s why I’ve been saying there is no benefit to playing tough OOC opponents if you are in the SEC.
 
I agree completely, that’s why I’ve been saying there is no benefit to playing tough OOC opponents if you are in the SEC.

I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall.

OOC games are irrelevant as long as the disparity in conferences exists! If we schedule four cupcake OOC games and go 5-3 in a brutal conference schedule, at 9-3 we're still going to be out when there are 11-1 Big 10 teams that played nobody.

The point is that unless conference disparity is accounted for, OOC games nean nothing. And Sankey sold out the SEC when he went tin business with the Big 10 as an equal partner to get a piece of the pie from the big media markets their programs are in.
 
I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall.

OOC games are irrelevant as long as the disparity in conferences exists! If we schedule four cupcake OOC games and go 5-3 in a brutal conference schedule, at 9-3 we're still going to be out when there are 11-1 Big 10 teams that played nobody.

The point is that unless conference disparity is accounted for, OOC games nean nothing. And Sankey sold out the SEC when he went tin business with the Big 10 as an equal partner to get a piece of the pie from the big media markets their programs are in.
I agree, I don’t know why you think im saying otherwise.

My point earlier was that unless SOS is made a much bigger point than it is now, then the SEC shouldn’t schedule anything but cupcakes. The SEC is the toughest conference in the nation and it’s not even close. Teans absolutely should be rewarded for playing a brutal schedule.

The Big10 has one or two good teams, one or two okay teams and the rest are trash. This gets proven time and again in the off season when 7-5 SEC teams boatrace other teams with “better” records.

Until the disparity of conference strength gets fixed, why should any SEC team make their paths to the playoffs even harder by scheduling OOC teams that have a pulse?

How to fix the fact that you can go 11-1 in the Big 10 without playing a top 25 team is not something that can be easily fixed until the people in charge recognize that the Big 10 is not equal to the SEC

Sankey needs to do more or someone else should be making those decisions for the SEC
 
I agree, I don’t know why you think im saying otherwise.

My point earlier was that unless SOS is made a much bigger point than it is now, then the SEC shouldn’t schedule anything but cupcakes. The SEC is the toughest conference in the nation and it’s not even close. Teans absolutely should be rewarded for playing a brutal schedule.

The Big10 has one or two good teams, one or two okay teams and the rest are trash. This gets proven time and again in the off season when 7-5 SEC teams boatrace other teams with “better” records.

Until the disparity of conference strength gets fixed, why should any SEC team make their paths to the playoffs even harder by scheduling OOC teams that have a pulse?

How to fix the fact that you can go 11-1 in the Big 10 without playing a top 25 team is not something that can be easily fixed until the people in charge recognize that the Big 10 is not equal to the SEC

Sankey needs to do more or someone else should be making those decisions for the SEC

We completely agree except that OOC games are completely irrelevant if good SEC teams are going 5-3 in conference while mediocre Big 10 teams are maybe losing one game. You're already out before you play a single OOC game, so what difference do they make?

What was so funny last night was McDonough telling the story of Cignetti sitting there at James f***king Madison looking at Indiana's schedule and telling his wife he could win 10 games against that schedule. Even he knows the truth.
 
We completely agree except that OOC games are completely irrelevant if good SEC teams are going 5-3 in conference while mediocre Big 10 teams are maybe losing one game. You're already out before you play a single OOC game, so what difference do they make?

What was so funny last night was McDonough telling the story of Cignetti sitting there at James f***king Madison looking at Indiana's schedule and telling his wife he could win 10 games against that schedule. Even he knows the truth.

I think OOC games do matter in the sense that if the SEC had to focus on OOC teams that were semi competent, it takes practice time away from focusing on the SEC teams.

That’s been my point. Everyone is mocking Bama for losing three in the SEC and then saying they are rethinking the upcoming Notre Dame and OSU series. But I get it.

If the SEC isn’t being rewarded for playing in the toughest conference, why shouldn’t we load up on OOC cupcakes and allow more focus on in conference games during practice? And there will be no incentive for SEC to switch to a 9 conference game schedule.
 


You don’t have to like Bama but they DO have OOC games scheduled with those teams in the future

Whether they will back out now that the CFP has rewarded soft schedules remains to be seen
I appreciate your remarks on Bama sitting home!

Thanks. The last I saw Bama was claiming those games were tentatively scheduled. But maybe that was the lie. 😂

GB🍊!
 

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