CFP members should be forced to announce their votes Vols/Bama

#26
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
If several teams die, it’s possible.
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If TN somehow slides in at 6 tomorrow, they have a shot. I see that as 5% chance at best.

Let's play the scenario game in that 5% chance

A 2 loss USC would be behind a 2 loss TN. Not a lot of meat on USC's schedule.

The bigger question in this scenario is would a 2 loss TN be above a 1 loss TCU. If TCU gets waxed, they might be. I do think it would need to be a waxing for any kind of chance to pass.

If TN is #7 really the only thing you can hope for is Clemson, Utah, and LSU winning. Clemson (via SC) and Utah (via Florida) wins would help SOS and LSU would be a better win in CFP's eyes. I don't see committee changing their mind though.
 
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Assuming GA beats LSU

Combined record of Bama's 2 losses: 19-6
Combined record of UT's 2 losses: 21-4

Combined record of Bama's 2 best wins: 16-8
Combined record of UT's 2 best wins: 19-6
Bama margin of victory in 2 best wins: 7
UT margin of victory in 2 best wins: 30

Tennessee slightly better SOS and 52-49. Does this overcome the two losses and the Bama name, probably not...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
If TN somehow slides in at 6 tomorrow, they have a shot. I see that as 5% chance at best.

Let's play the scenario game in that 5% chance

A 2 loss USC would be behind a 2 loss TN. Not a lot of meat on USC's schedule.

The bigger question in this scenario is would a 2 loss TN be above a 1 loss TCU. If TCU gets waxed, they might be. I do think it would need to be a waxing for any kind of chance to pass.

If TN is #7 really the only thing you can hope for is Clemson, Utah, and LSU winning. Clemson (via SC) and Utah (via Florida) wins would help SOS and LSU would be a better win in CFP's eyes. I don't see committee changing their mind though.
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Again, they don’t want TCU in anymore than they wanted Cincinnati. Bad for business. If TCU loses by a point on a bad call, they’re still out.
 
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@Boone&Crockett

For some reason the quote function doesn't work so great from my phone but I didn't leave off anything. I don't know where you got that part about injured players but it wasn't from the current CFP link I posted. There is nothing about injured players that may have or likely will affect the team's performance in this year's playoff qualifiers.
 
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If we aren’t no 5, then they are bias.
We have a better resume than Ohio State.
We beat Bama.
Enough is enough.
 
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CR-vol said:
@Boone&Crockett

For some reason the quote function doesn't work so great from my phone but I didn't leave off anything. I don't know where you got that part about injured players but it wasn't from the current CFP link I posted. There is nothing about injured players that may have or likely will affect the team's performance in this year's playoff qualifiers.
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It's straight off their website under the principle tab
 
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Odd they only put it in that tab. I know Milton overthrew some passes but the curb stomping we gave Vandy should show we're more than capable of taking care of business without Hooker.
 
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CR-vol said:
@Boone&Crockett

For some reason the quote function doesn't work so great from my phone but I didn't leave off anything. I don't know where you got that part about injured players but it wasn't from the current CFP link I posted. There is nothing about injured players that may have or likely will affect the team's performance in this year's playoff qualifiers.
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I'm not good at links but www.collegefootballplayoff.com under the Protocol tab you will see Principals, click on that and that's where I copied it from
 
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Yeah I saw it. It's there, you're right. If you just read the paragraphs above the tabs they list all the qualifiers except for that one. I never bothered to click the tabs until you pointed it out. Weird they did that.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Assuming GA beats LSU

Combined record of Bama's 2 losses: 19-6
Combined record of UT's 2 losses: 21-4

Combined record of Bama's 2 best wins: 16-8
Combined record of UT's 2 best wins: 19-6
Bama margin of victory in 2 best wins: 7
UT margin of victory in 2 best wins: 30

Tennessee slightly better SOS and 52-49. Does this overcome the two losses and the Bama name, probably not...
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Margin of victory in both teams losses will factor heavily
 
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CR-vol said:
We are ahead of Alabama by all of the committee's qualifiers. When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:
  • Championships won (not applicable)
  • Strength of schedule (Tennessee's is better)
  • Head‐to‐head competition (if it occurred) 52-49
  • Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory) we smashed LSU, they lost
CFP Selection Committee Protocol
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You conveniently left this one out:
  • Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
 
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I didn't conveniently leave out anything. That one was hidden in a tab at the bottom of the main page. If you read the entire thread before wasting a post for nothing..
 
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VolCalls said:
You conveniently left this one out:
  • Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
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Milton is not a normal backup. He is the next man up.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Just let me play this out.
it’s a bit of wishful orange colored glasses 🤓 but just let me state the Vols best case scenario.

this Tuesday, they come out with this ranking.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. TCU
4. USC
5. OSU
6. Tennessee
7. Alabama

Georgia beats LSU
Michigan beats Purdue
TCU loses by more than 14 to KState
USC loses by more than 14 to Utah

Isnt it entirely POSSIBLE that Both OSU and Tennessee move up two spots to #3 and #4?
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Utah is totally screwed in the championship game. USC will get every questionable call go their way just to ensure they get a team in the Playoff
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Exactly! That’s why I want to hear their reasoning when they put Bama at 6 and Tennessee at 7.
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i think they will blame it on the hooker injury. i think that is the wrong way to do it but that is what i fully expect to hear tonight :mad:
 
#45
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Vfl2407 said:
Vol fans should.
putting us 6th instead of 7th means we go to the playoffs if both Utah and KState win.
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It would also mean we would get the Sugar bowl bid if I’m not mistaken. Not sure though…..
 
#47
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Vfl2407 said:
Here’s the list of the members. Kentucky AD is the SEC representative. But I think he must recuse himself when his conference is discussed.
College Football Playoff Selection Committee Prepares for 2022-23 Season - College Football Playoff

I think it’s pretty well a given that these will be the first five announced on this Tuesday night.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. TCU
4. USC
5. OSU

The only real controversy is 6 vs 7. Which will be either 10-2 Tennessee or 10-2 Bama.
The best argument for us is the head to head win and the rout at LSU who beat Bama.

The best argument for them is that their two losses were so narrow and that Tennessee was blown out in both losses.
The additional argument against us is losing our starting QB to injury.

i think the only fair thing to do is to have each member tell the public how they voted and why.
However, I know there is no way that this will happen. The head of the committee will just say they think Bama is CURRENTLY the better team and that is more important than head to head.

Of course, none of it matters if USC beats Utah and TCU beats KState.
But both of those games will be quite interesting and it wouldn’t shock me if Utah and KState both win.
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I'm in the minority but I am hoping we rank behind Bama at 7.

I very much prefer the Orange Bowl vs a likely Clemson than going to Sugar Bowl and playing a 4 loss K State or Texas squad......

I couldn't think of a less attractive NY6 matchup if you put a gun to my head. I would rather play a 11-2 or 10-3 squad than 9-4/8-4 team from the Little12....
 
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VolCalls said:
You conveniently left this one out:
  • Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
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They would need to compare how we performed without Hooker, to how Bama performed without Young. We went along as if nothing changed, in fact we switched up how we won by running the ball instead of throwing. Granted it was only Vandy, but to our defense they were on a two game winning streak. Where as Bama struggled big time without Young. Who's to say Young doesn't get hurt between Conf Champ games and Playoff games.

We would still be relatively the same, where as Bama is completely different. If they're gonna use Hooker being out against us then they need to look back and see how each team did without their top player. Even then some could argue that Tillman was our top player and we kept chugging along without him as well.
 
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