CFP predictions?

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JMSqb11 said:
Simple question, if TCU loses to 3 loss K State, do they drop out of the Top 4?
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Of course not. To put them behind a team you have to be able to justify it. Not just “they lost more recently”.

There’s only one spot left and it’s going to Oh St or USC. TCU is in. 1 loss to a 3 loss team vs Bamas one loss to a 3 loss team and loss to a 2 loss team, still means TCU is in over Bama.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Doubtful. TCU loses. They drop to the 7-10 range. They simply don’t have good opponents on their schedule to have a “good loss” and keep them in the hunt. Same with USC.

If both lose, they like drop out of the top 6 and insert Ohio State for sure and Bama/Tennessee with a bit lower odds.

There is simply no way the #3 team can lose and not drop in the rankings… not sure who would argue that as a realistic possibility. TCU all season long could afford a loss as their opponent season W/L was like 72-71… simply no really good teams they beat this year. Best win is to a 3 loss team.
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This is not the AP or coaches poll where you lose and they automatically drop 4-5 spots. Doesn't work that way in the CFP.

Yeah, TCU's best win is a 3 loss team. Look at who they beat though. Every Big 12 team is solid except for an offensive challenged Iowa State team and WVU. Everybody plays everybody and is another in-conference loss because of it. TCU's SOS is slightly lower than Alabama or Tennessee but is higher than pretty much everybody else.

Rewarding Ohio State, Alabama, or Tennessee for not even winning their division and sitting on the coach the last week with 1-2 less wins is not the answer.

I wouldn't like putting in a team that lost their last game, but when you were undefeated and the next best challenger doesn't have the resume, then they are in.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Of course not. To put them behind a team you have to be able to justify it. Not just “they lost more recently”.

There’s only one spot left and it’s going to Oh St or USC. TCU is in. 1 loss to a 3 loss team vs Bamas one loss to a 3 loss team and loss to a 2 loss team, still means TCU is in over Bama.
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You don’t have to justify keeping them in front a team or behind a team…. If they lose, they will drop several spots. Has zero to do with Bama or OSU’s resumè. TCU can’t afford a loss and hope to make the playoff still.
 
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HouClone said:
This is not the AP or coaches poll where you lose and they automatically drop 4-5 spots. Doesn't work that way in the CFP.

Yeah, TCU's best win is a 3 win team. Look at who they beat though. Every Big 12 team is solid except for an offensive challenged Iowa State team and WVU. Everybody plays everybody and is another in-conference loss because of it. TCU's SOS is slightly lower than Alabama or Tennessee but is higher than pretty much everybody else.

Rewarding Ohio State, Alabama, or Tennessee for not even winning their division and sitting on the coach the last week with 1-2 less wins is not the answer.

I wouldn't like putting in a team that lost their last game, but when you are undefeated and the next best challenger doesn't have the resume, then they are in.
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The best part is all the reasons he’s giving for why Bama might pass them also apply to Bama:

“Their best win is a over a 9-3 team”
“If they lose to a 3 loss team”
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You don’t have to justify keeping them in front a team or behind a team…. If they lose, they will drop several spots. Has zero to do with Bama or OSU’s resumè. TCU can’t afford a loss and hope to make the playoff still.
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Obviously you have to justify it. That’s the entire job of the committee is to justify the selection. That’s why there’s a committee. To justify the rankings.
 
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HouClone said:
This is not the AP or coaches poll where you lose and they automatically drop 4-5 spots. Doesn't work that way in the CFP.

Yeah, TCU's best win is a 3 loss team. Look at who they beat though. Every Big 12 team is solid except for an offensive challenged Iowa State team and WVU. Everybody plays everybody and is another in-conference loss because of it. TCU's SOS is slightly lower than Alabama or Tennessee but is higher than pretty much everybody else.

Rewarding Ohio State, Alabama, or Tennessee for not even winning their division and sitting on the coach the last week with 1-2 less wins is not the answer.

I wouldn't like putting in a team that lost their last game, but when you are undefeated and the next best challenger doesn't have the resume, then they are in.
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The Big 12 was not that great this year…..TCU’s best win was 13 ranked 3 loss K State. And that could be nullified if they lose the rematch. This notion that TCU is staying in the top 4 even with a loss to a potential 9-11 ranked team is silly. Same goes for USC and a 10-13 ranked Utah. They both lose, they are out of the playoff and chaos likely sends Ohio State and Bama to playoff. Because those 2 teams would be favored vs TCU or USC on a neutral field. CFP has to pick the best 4 teams. A 2 loss USC or 1 loss TCU is most certainly not better than an 11-1 OSU or 10-2 Bama. Vegas would have both favored by double digits over them.

it’s simple, 13-0 TCU stays in, 12-1 TCU is eliminated. 12-1 USC stays in, 11-2 USC is eliminated.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The best part is all the reasons he’s giving for why Bama might pass them also apply to Bama:

“Their best win is a over a 9-3 team”
“If they lose to a 3 loss team”
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Bama is idle along with OSU and Tennessee next week. TCU losing will not be given a pass just because they had to play a 13th game and lose. And since those 3 teams are idle, they obviously won’t be rewarded for not losing in the same week.

You don’t have to like it but OSU and Bama wait in the wings if TCU and/or USC trip up. Saying TCU won’t drop with a loss is silly. They can’t just stay idle because the teams directly below them didn’t have a game to play.

See y’all on Tuesday. 👊🏼👊🏽👊🏾👊🏿
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Bama is idle along with OSU and Tennessee next week. TCU losing will not be given a pass just because they had to play a 13th game and lose. And since those 3 teams are idle, they obviously won’t be rewarded for not losing in the same week.

You don’t have to like it but OSU and Bama wait in the wings if TCU and/or USC trip up. Saying TCU won’t drop with a loss is silly. They can’t just stay idle because the teams directly below them didn’t have a game to play.

See y’all on Tuesday. 👊🏼👊🏽👊🏾👊🏿
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You’re the same guy who tried claiming undefeated TCU wouldn’t get in
 
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Vol8188 said:
You’re the same guy who tried claiming undefeated TCU wouldn’t get in
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I never said that blanketed statement. I had conditions… 11-1 Tennessee AND 11-2 LSU and/or 12-1 USC would block a 13-0 TCU. I never said anything different from that. Since 2 of those teams obviously can’t go 11-1 and 11-2, that opens a spot if USC indeed goes 12-1….

But you can not find one comment where I said TCU going undefeated misses the playoff regardless of any other team
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Bama is idle along with OSU and Tennessee next week. TCU losing will not be given a pass just because they had to play a 13th game and lose. And since those 3 teams are idle, they obviously won’t be rewarded for not losing in the same week.

You don’t have to like it but OSU and Bama wait in the wings if TCU and/or USC trip up. Saying TCU won’t drop with a loss is silly. They can’t just stay idle because the teams directly below them didn’t have a game to play.

See y’all on Tuesday. 👊🏼👊🏽👊🏾👊🏿
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“They obviously won’t be rewarded for not losing”
also….he thinks they will be rewarded because they “wait in the wings if TCU and USC trip up”

You can’t argue with the insane I guess
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I never said that blanketed statement. I had conditions… 11-1 Tennessee AND 11-2 LSU and/or 12-1 USC would block a 13-0 TCU. I never said anything different from that. Since 2 of those teams obviously can’t go 11-1 and 11-2, that opens a spot if USC indeed goes 12-1….

But you can not find one comment where I said TCU going undefeated misses the playoff regardless of any other team
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You said TCU will not get in. I’ll even quote it if you’d like
 
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Vol8188 said:
“They obviously won’t be rewarded for not losing”
also….he thinks they will be rewarded because they “wait in the wings if TCU and USC trip up”

You can’t argue with the insane I guess
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If TCU and USC lose, Ohio State and Bama will slide up the rankings. TCU and USC won’t stay idle and in the playoffs with losses in their conference title games. To argue they will is to ignore the entire CFP rankings this season.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
If TCU and USC lose, Ohio State and Bama will slide up the rankings. TCU and USC won’t stay idle and in the playoffs with losses in their conference title games. To argue they will is to ignore the entire CFP rankings this season.
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JMSqb11 said:
TCU doesn't have a chance to play UGA since UGA will be in the playoff.... OSU and Bama will have a chance to play UGA though.
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Vol8188 said:
You said TCU will not get in. I’ll even quote it if you’d like
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Please find the blanketed comment where I said a 13-0 TCU will be left out regardless if other teams stumble or not. You can’t. Of course this is the internet and you MF’s love to cherry pick. But you will not find a blanket comment from me saying 13-0 TCU would be left out regardless of other teams at 11-1/11-2/12-1….
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Please find the blanketed comment where I said a 13-0 TCU will be left out regardless if other teams stumble or not. You can’t. Of course this is the internet and you MF’s love to cherry pick. But you will not find a blanket comment from me saying 13-0 TCU would be left out regardless of other teams at 11-1/11-2/12-1….
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JMSqb11 said:
TCU doesn't have a chance to play UGA since UGA will be in the playoff.... OSU and Bama will have a chance to play UGA though.
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Is that not a blanket statement? I don’t see any qualifiers. Just that they won’t make it
 
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Vol8188 said:
Is that not a blanket statement? I don’t see any qualifiers. Just that they won’t make it
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Please post the time stamp of that comment. Because if you want to just post comments without context of what I said, I can easily help you avoid cherry picking....

That comment was on November 5th after the UGA loss and also after the LSU victory over Alabama. I said countless times that an 11-1 Tennessee would be in over 13-0 TCU.... I also said that if LSU ran the table and won the SEC at 11-2 with 3 wins over Top 7 teams, they would be box out TCU... I even went further and said 12-1 USC would box out 13-0 TCU....

So where are we now... Tennessee obviously didn't go 11-1 and LSU obviously didn't go 10-2... Since those two teams are all but eliminated from the CFP, that means the 2 spots that Tennessee, LSU, and USC were jockeying for are now up for grabs. USC can still go 12-1 and they are in..... So that leaves one spot for who? 13-0 TCU....

But go off king... Cherry pick comments away and again without context.... My post history is pretty clear on how I said a 13-0 TCU would get left out.... Those reasons are no longer valid because losses for two teams in the last two weeks.... You don't seem like someone to debate in good faith.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You claimed you never said that. Why does when you said it matter? You were wrong.
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I never once made a blanketed statement that 13-0 TCU gets left out of the playoff without help.... You cherry picked a post in a thread full of comments explaining how.... Either you were wanting to cherry pick and be biased or you simply didn't read further in the thread.... Funny how in a thread of several pages and posts, you literally pick one comment and omit the actual nitty gritty details / justification posts.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Please post the time stamp of that comment. Because if you want to just post comments without context of what I said, I can easily help you avoid cherry picking....

That comment was on November 5th after the UGA loss and also after the LSU victory over Alabama. I said countless times that an 11-1 Tennessee would be in over 13-0 TCU.... I also said that if LSU ran the table and won the SEC at 11-2 with 3 wins over Top 7 teams, they would be box out TCU... I even went further and said 12-1 USC would box out 13-0 TCU....

So where are we now... Tennessee obviously didn't go 11-1 and LSU obviously didn't go 10-2... Since those two teams are all but eliminated from the CFP, that means the 2 spots that Tennessee, LSU, and USC were jockeying for are now up for grabs. USC can still go 12-1 and they are in..... So that leaves one spot for who? 13-0 TCU....

But go off king... Cherry pick comments away and again without context.... My post history is pretty clear on how I said a 13-0 TCU would get left out.... Those reasons are no longer valid because losses for two teams in the last two weeks.... You don't seem like someone to debate in good faith.
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Not cherry picking at all. This is what you said. That TCU didn’t matter because they wouldn’t be in. Rather than admitting you’re wrong you just keep going on about more nonsense.

It’s pathetic really
 
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Vol8188 said:
Not cherry picking at all. This is what you said. That TCU didn’t matter because they wouldn’t be in. Rather than admitting you’re wrong you just keep going on about more nonsense.

It’s pathetic really
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You took one comment in a 50 page thread where there was plenty of explaining and reasoning for said point and thought you could use it as a "Got you" moment...

I literally explained multiple times how a 13-0 TCU could left out... I never once said they would be left out at 13-0 on their own.... I very clearly said how they would get left out and it required other teams.... But you either can't read or debate in bad faith.... Pretty clear which one it is.

Saying "TCU didn't matter because they wouldn't be in" because of other teams blocking them out is not wrong.... The teams that would block them out lost games... Therefore the path was no longer valid.... TCU benefitted from Tennessee losing at Carolina and LSU losing last night....

As i've said countless times in November.... But flame on King
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You took one comment in a 50 page thread where there was plenty of explaining and reasoning for said point and thought you could use it as a "Got you" moment...

I literally explained multiple times how a 13-0 TCU could left out... I never once said they would be left out at 13-0 on their own
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JMSqb11 said:
TCU doesn't have a chance to play UGA since UGA will be in the playoff.... OSU and Bama will have a chance to play UGA though.
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When you say they don’t have a chance, that’s what you’re saying. That no matter what else happens, they won’t get in. Unless this is your first season of college football you should have known that was an ignorant statement.

They clearly had a chance at that point and clearly still do
 
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Vol8188 said:
When you say they don’t have a chance, that’s what you’re saying. That no matter what else happens, they won’t get in. Unless this is your first season of college football you should have known that was an ignorant statement.

They clearly had a chance at that point and clearly still do
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Once again, 50 page thread with plenty of comments / reasoning for saying they wouldn’t be in. I’m very comfortable with my post history on this subject. If you want to cherry pick comments out of a 50 page thread go ahead… you seem the type to only read headlines and run with it instead of actually doing your own research. It would be one thing if it was a statement made with no follow up commentary. That wasn’t the case. Again I’m very comfy with my posts explaining my reasoning. You wish to cherry pick and debate in bad faith. I standby what the actual history shows.
 
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