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Lately I've been more inclined to look at a recruit's offer list to determine their value a little more than the star ranking..................until I read this stat:

Since Rivals started ranking classes in 2002, 12 years ago, the #1 ranked class according Rival's own ranking system has played for the national championship within 3 years of their class ranking 9 times.

You may say, well duh. But it just goes to show how crucial it is to sign highly rated classes. Top 15 classes just won't cut it in the SEC. Butch will need to sign a class like this years every year if we're going to get where we all want to be.
 
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fade route said:
Lately I've been more inclined to look at a recruit's offer list to determine their value a little more than the star ranking..................until I read this stat:

Since Rivals started ranking classes in 2002, 12 years ago, the #1 ranked class according Rival's own ranking system has played for the national championship within 3 years of their class ranking 9 times.

You may say, well duh. But it just goes to show how crucial it is to sign highly rated classes. Top 15 classes just won't cut it in the SEC. Butch will need to sign a class like this years every year if we're going to get where we all want to be.
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Actually, it sounds like he just needs to sign 1 #1 ranked class to get to where we all want to be...

But I get what you're saying. Rankings matter. It has been proven time and time again. No one knows whether he'll be able to keep up the recruiting momentum he's established this year. But, if he does, we should be really really good (of course, it will be hard to keep up this momentum without improving on the field as well, so it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing).
 
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oregonvol said:
...(of course, it will be hard to keep up this momentum without improving on the field as well, so it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing).
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It will be almost impossible not to improve on the field with these type classes coming in. :)
 
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There's a strong correlation between the two, though.

Look at Bama's class. Almost every recruit had offers from all over the country.
 
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Volador said:
aaaahhhh this is a pivotal quandary because Fulmer HAD the talent year after year
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Yep. Fulmer was very Mack Brownish towards the end. So often it seemed big time recruits would never improve beyond their debut performances. They continued to make critical, fundamental mistakes all the way to their final years. I used to get so damn mad. I know our defense has been atrocious lately, but UT has been one of the poorer tackling teams I've watched for a long time before Derek Dumbass showed up.
 
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I don't think a Top 5 class is a requirement every year but lets look at Florida State (using rivals):

2010: #10 (2 5*, 8 4*)

2011: #2 (similar to UT's 2014... 2 5* but only 13 4* where UT had 16)

2012: #6 (3 5*, 10 4*)

2013: #10 (2 5*, 9 4*)

What Florida State did is build depth in 2011 and then add select highly talented players to subsequent classes.

I would say Jones needs to have a Top 10 class every year but composition is important. And, given our scholly levels this year and out due to our large class we're likely to be building up talent at key positions.

I will say this:

We need a high-end QB in the 2015 class.
 
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Unfortunately or fortunately, UT will need these types of classes every year. 7 out of the top 9 on Rivals are top SEC teams.

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oregonvol said:
Actually, it sounds like he just needs to sign 1 #1 ranked class to get to where we all want to be...

But I get what you're saying. Rankings matter. It has been proven time and time again. No one knows whether he'll be able to keep up the recruiting momentum he's established this year. But, if he does, we should be really really good (of course, it will be hard to keep up this momentum without improving on the field as well, so it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing).
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This is the only thing that concerns me. If, god forbid, we suffer another 5-7 year this season, will Butch be able to sell the future to another class? One that is not heavy on the legacy aspect as well?
 
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Boca Vol said:
Unfortunately or fortunately, UT will need these types of classes every year. 7 out of the top 9 on Rivals are top 10 teams.
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Boca - I'm pretty sure 9 of the top 9 on Rivals are top 10 teams. :)

I might even go so far as to say 10 of the top 10 on Rivals are top 10 teams. Might want to edit.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
Yep. Fulmer was very Mack Brownish towards the end. So often it seemed big time recruits would never improve beyond their debut performances. They continued to make critical, fundamental mistakes all the way to their final years. I used to get so damn mad. I know our defense has been atrocious lately, but UT has been one of the poorer tackling teams I've watched for a long time before Derek Dumbass showed up.
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:lolabove: :rofl: :crossfingers:
 
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fade route said:
Lately I've been more inclined to look at a recruit's offer list to determine their value a little more than the star ranking..................until I read this stat:

Since Rivals started ranking classes in 2002, 12 years ago, the #1 ranked class according Rival's own ranking system has played for the national championship within 3 years of their class ranking 9 times.

You may say, well duh. But it just goes to show how crucial it is to sign highly rated classes. Top 15 classes just won't cut it in the SEC. Butch will need to sign a class like this years every year if we're going to get where we all want to be.
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Not always look at Auburn
 
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LotteryPick said:
There's a strong correlation between the two, though.

Look at Bama's class. Almost every recruit had offers from all over the country.
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Move to bama then jack. bama are losers, been losers, always will be losers. Just because they play 6 games a year and challenged in maybe 4, and have every nut licker with a wad in their pocket willing to splooge on them doesn't make them anything but bama. BUCK FAMA.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Move to bama then jack. bama are losers, been losers, always will be losers. Just because they play 6 games a year and challenged in maybe 4, and have every nut licker with a wad in their pocket willing to splooge on them doesn't make them anything but bama. BUCK FAMA.
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I hate bama more than anything in this world, but calling them losers is straight up denial.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Move to bama then jack. bama are losers, been losers, always will be losers. Just because they play 6 games a year and challenged in maybe 4, and have every nut licker with a wad in their pocket willing to splooge on them doesn't make them anything but bama. BUCK FAMA.
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:ermm:
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Move to bama then jack. bama are losers, been losers, always will be losers. Just because they play 6 games a year and challenged in maybe 4, and have every nut licker with a wad in their pocket willing to splooge on them doesn't make them anything but bama. BUCK FAMA.
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Ok thanks for sharing
 
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Did I get redirected to espn's site? Could've swore it was an Orange site. ... I'll try again later when espn guys get done jerking over bama posters.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Did I get redirected to espn's site? Could've swore it was an Orange site. ... I'll try again later when espn guys get done jerking over bama posters.
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I don't think Doyle is saying Bama's the greatest thing since sliced bread, I think he's just saying you gotta be Tom Hanks in Cast Away to not simply acknowledge their recent success - which we all hope gets retroactively diminished by future NCAA sanctions :hi:
 
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