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Volsdeep4 said:
It’s incredible how almost indestructible these vessels are.
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what makes you say that?

one thing goes wrong and its a useless floating piece of steel. it hasn't/doesn't even get tested for direct hits. Even if its not destroyed or made unfunctional any repair has to be done back in the US, so even a couple blows are going to be compromising.
 
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LouderVol said:
what makes you say that?

one thing goes wrong and its a useless floating piece of steel. it hasn't/doesn't even get tested for direct hits. Even if it’s not destroyed or made unfunctional any repair has to be done back in the US, so even a couple blows are going to be compromising.
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I read an article of how they took a decommissioned vessel and bombed the ish out of it and it took incredible amounts of damage for days before sinking.
 
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LouderVol said:
what makes you say that?

one thing goes wrong and its a useless floating piece of steel. it hasn't/doesn't even get tested for direct hits. Even if its not destroyed or made unfunctional any repair has to be done back in the US, so even a couple blows are going to be compromising.
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A carrier can be compromised, no doubt about that. But they are indeed damn near unsinkable.

You have to be talking a tactical nuclear weapon, or multiple massive hits to multiple holds before one of those is going down.
 
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LouderVol said:
what makes you say that?

one thing goes wrong and its a useless floating piece of steel. it hasn't/doesn't even get tested for direct hits. Even if its not destroyed or made unfunctional any repair has to be done back in the US, so even a couple blows are going to be compromising.
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Just an interesting anecdote that speaks to the indestructible nature of these vessels.

The USS America was a Kitty Hawk class (Forrestal sub-class) supercarrier. She was built in the early 1960’s based on designs from the early 1950’s.

In 2005 the US Navy took her 300 miles off the Carolina coast and fired on her for 4 weeks in a live exercise attempting to sink her. She would not go down.

They eventually resorted to detonating explosives at and below the water line to simulate massive direct hits. She persisted.

Ultimately, naval demolition teams boarded her and strategically placed explosives deep within. It was only then that she slipped 17,000 feet beneath the surface.

A final tidbit - many vessels break apart and tumble when subjected to the crushing pressures of those depths.
America rests on the sea floor upright on her keel, in one piece, deep beneath the waves.
 
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Wow, i didn’t know the Nuclear arsenal was in such bad shape. Just where is this defense budget going?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We love destruction and mayhem. So blowing up Nordstream isn't enough. Now they are boasting about destroying semiconductor plants. We would rather turnover the chessboard rather than allow China and Taiwan to have control of it.

US would destroy Taiwan's semiconductor factories rather than letting them fall into China's hands, a former national security advisor says
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This is gaining momentum...

Taiwan Says Its Military Won't Let The US Blow Up Semiconductor Factories | ZeroHedge
 
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LouderVol said:
if there was a worst/most despicable nation in WWII. It was Japan.

I really have no idea why it doesn't get talked about more. even what they did to western POWs should get more conversation.
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You don’t fight a junkyard dog with rules and regulations. You simply take the chain off your own bigger, meaner dog.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You don’t fight a junkyard dog with rules and regulations. You simply take the chain off your own bigger, meaner dog.
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Japan's population/age demographic problem is worse than even Russia's. they need to triple their birth rates before they could fight a war.
 
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LouderVol said:
Japan's population/age demographic problem is worse than even Russia's. they need to triple their birth rates before they could fight a war.
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Would be a vastly different set of goals this time around. And vastly different requirements.

This isn’t the objective -

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LouderVol said:
yeah, but China has gone from a 3rd world nation, undergoing constant civil war, using the last war's tech, to now being a unified super power.
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Certainly.

But Japan wouldn’t be looking to take the fight to the Chinese mainland either. Vicious strikes against the Chinese, with no intention of holding territory would be the order of the day.

Why did we ultimately deploy atomic weapons?
 
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