China Thread

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Bring on the tariffs. Kicking AAPL and other American companies out of China will be far more effective than kicking students out of here.

As well as it should be illegal for any American organization like the NIH, or any University here or research center to in ANYWAY be connected to biolabs in China. That is insane. We have literally been subsidizing Chinese bioweapon research targeting Americans.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

It's two and a half hours. What are the highlights and the time mark for the good part?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Also...

 

[Orangeburst]

Also...

We might get F-22s and B-2s for our game fly overs now..lol

 

[85SugarVol]

Couldn’t find the “bye bye F-35” thread from Ras…

Israel showed the 'power' of F-35s in destroying nearly all of Iran's air defenses without a loss, UK admiral says

The UK's chief of defense staff said Israeli F-35s took out "nearly the entirety" of Iran's air defenses in a single mission.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[LouderVol]

Couldn’t find the “bye bye F-35” thread from Ras…

Israel showed the 'power' of F-35s in destroying nearly all of Iran's air defenses without a loss, UK admiral says

The UK's chief of defense staff said Israeli F-35s took out "nearly the entirety" of Iran's air defenses in a single mission.

www.businessinsider.com

Those were Russian AA they took out.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Those were Russian AA they took out.

True. Originally reported as the S300 series and Irans domestic copies of the 300s. Dont know if there were S400s or not...at any rate its been reported that for the initial volley, no aircraft were within 100 miles of SAM sites. They used the long range, ATG ballistic missiles first. As Slice and others mentioned here, the initial damage reports were greatly minimized by the West in an effort to de-,escalate the conflict and keep it from sparking a wider war. Israel sent a strong message in a single huge sortie...that the IDF can (did) completely knock out Irans air defenses and then destroy anything and everything in that country at will. Don't think we are gonna see anymore large scale attacks on Israel from Iran any time soon. They will continue to arm Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and any other terrorist group they can use as a proxy...like cowards...but they clearly dont want that smoke from Israel themselves. They are lucky that the IDF showed restraint this time. They could have destroyed every military base, nuclear plant, enrichment site etc if they wanted to. In fact, they destroyed 1 site next to Tehran...just to let them know that nowhere in their country is safe unless Israel allows it to be safe.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Biden Pardons Chinese Spies Convicted of Stealing American tech secrets​

President Biden pardoned two Chinese spies and the relative of a high-ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party who was caught with tens of thousands of images of child pornography on his computer last month in a prisoner swap between the two countries that was made public Thursday when the three received clemencies.

Yanjun Xu and Ji Chaoqun, who were both convicted of espionage, were granted clemency last month, along with Shanlin Jin, who was convicted of possession of more than 47,000 images of child pornography while a doctoral student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas in 2021.

Biden pardons Chinese spies convicted of stealing American tech secrets

Biden pardons Chinese spies who tried to steal aerospace and satellite tech secrets in US.

nypost.com

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Biden Pardons Chinese Spies Convicted of Stealing American tech secrets​

President Biden pardoned two Chinese spies and the relative of a high-ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party who was caught with tens of thousands of images of child pornography on his computer last month in a prisoner swap between the two countries that was made public Thursday when the three received clemencies.

Yanjun Xu and Ji Chaoqun, who were both convicted of espionage, were granted clemency last month, along with Shanlin Jin, who was convicted of possession of more than 47,000 images of child pornography while a doctoral student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas in 2021.

Biden pardons Chinese spies convicted of stealing American tech secrets

Biden pardons Chinese spies who tried to steal aerospace and satellite tech secrets in US.

nypost.com

Traitor Joe

 

[82_VOL_83]

Couldn’t find the “bye bye F-35” thread from Ras…

Israel showed the 'power' of F-35s in destroying nearly all of Iran's air defenses without a loss, UK admiral says

The UK's chief of defense staff said Israeli F-35s took out "nearly the entirety" of Iran's air defenses in a single mission.

www.businessinsider.com

F35 will have a new motor within 2 years that will make it untouchable. Difference between the hornet and super hornet.

 

[norrislakevol]

F35 will have a new motor within 2 years that will make it untouchable. Difference between the hornet and super hornet.

F15 receiving upgrades as well. Will be the fastest fighter on the planet with new capabilities. Goal is to operate it man less, controlled by F35s, making it the worlds deadliest drone. At least that is what I read. The F15 already has a flawless record as a dog fighter against commie trash planes.

 

[82_VOL_83]

F15 receiving upgrades as well. Will be the fastest fighter on the planet with new capabilities. Goal is to operate it man less, controlled by F35s, making it the worlds deadliest drone. At least that is what I read. The F15 already has a flawless record as a dog fighter against commie trash planes.

F22 is still faster. But way more expensive.

 

[Orangeburst]

F35 will have a new motor within 2 years that will make it untouchable. Difference between the hornet and super hornet.

I am pretty sure the Adaptive Cycle Engine got canned, or at least significantly delayed..They are upgrading the engine core on the F135 to manage the cooling power consumption and heat loads for TR4 avionics upgrades. The existing engine is having to be operating at higher than anticipated temp to even handle current upgrades. The ECU wont even be fielded until 2029, and the snail pace of these uogrades is just mind blowing,

https://www.prattwhitney.com/en/products/military-engines/f135/engine-core-upgrade

It’s official: The F-35 will not get a new engine anytime soon - Breaking Defense

After rancorous debate, a new engine for the stealth fighter was already in doubt, but legislation released by congressional appropriators today seemingly puts the issue to rest.

breakingdefense.com

 

[PKT_VOL]

Traitor Joe

It was a prisoner swap. Nothing traitorous about getting Americans, particularly ones that might have been spying for us, home.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I am pretty sure the Adaptive Cycle Engine got canned, or at least significantly delayed..They are upgrading the engine core on the F135 to manage the cooling power consumption and heat loads for TR4 avionics upgrades. The existing engine is having to be operating at higher than anticipated temp to even handle current upgrades. The ECU wont even be fielded until 2029, and the snail pace of these uogrades is just mind blowing,

https://www.prattwhitney.com/en/products/military-engines/f135/engine-core-upgrade

It’s official: The F-35 will not get a new engine anytime soon - Breaking Defense

After rancorous debate, a new engine for the stealth fighter was already in doubt, but legislation released by congressional appropriators today seemingly puts the issue to rest.

breakingdefense.com

Ok

 

[85SugarVol]

F35 will have a new motor within 2 years that will make it untouchable. Difference between the hornet and super hornet.

Me and OB used to discuss this, though I don’t remember all the specifics.

Is it getting that GE adaptive engine?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Me and OB used to discuss this, though I don’t remember all the specifics.

Is it getting that GE adaptive engine?

/shrug

 

[norrislakevol]

F22 is still faster. But way more expensive.

For now it's faster.

 

[82_VOL_83]

For now it's faster.

K

 

[Orangeburst]

Ex-PM Miyazawa aired doubts about China's democratization to Clinton in '93

In a summit with the then-U.S. president, then-Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa said he was skeptical about democracy taking root in China as living standards improve.

www.japantimes.co.jp

the biggest geopolitical error in our nations history..Cost us literally trillions in IP theft, military spending, tade imbalances, and potentially war..good job Bill.

 

[Orangeburst]

China Stuns With Heavy Stealth Tactical Jet’s Sudden Appearance

This is the most advanced flying machine we have seen out of China, lacking any tails and packing stealth and long range. This is the most advanced flying machine we have seen out of China, lacking any tails and packing stealth and long range.

www.twz.com

we are led by stupid people..

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Biden Pardons Chinese Spies Convicted of Stealing American tech secrets​

President Biden pardoned two Chinese spies and the relative of a high-ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party who was caught with tens of thousands of images of child pornography on his computer last month in a prisoner swap between the two countries that was made public Thursday when the three received clemencies.

Yanjun Xu and Ji Chaoqun, who were both convicted of espionage, were granted clemency last month, along with Shanlin Jin, who was convicted of possession of more than 47,000 images of child pornography while a doctoral student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas in 2021.

Biden pardons Chinese spies convicted of stealing American tech secrets

Biden pardons Chinese spies who tried to steal aerospace and satellite tech secrets in US.

nypost.com

I think the USA is downright stupid. Putting too much technical info onto the WWW for collaboration with close allies, invites info decrypting and hacking.
For another, the massive hiring of Chinese mathematicians, scientists, and others, knowing China's determined intent to steal teach. For another, putting itself at the known risk of Chinese techies being loyal ethnic loyal (red) than American loyal (blue). Forrest Gump's mother is dead on in her assessment.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Trump Asks Supreme Court to Halt TikTok Ban from taking effect​

President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to delay a law that would effectively ban TikTok from taking effect until after he assumes office.

Trump lawyer John Sauer, who is the solicitor general designee for the incoming administration, petitioned the high court to postpone its hearing on the TikTok ban, arguing that the matter could be redressed “through political means” instead.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/27/us-ne...court-to-halt-tiktok-ban-from-taking-effect/#
The Chinese firm ByteDance had been ordered to divest TikTok or face an outright ban in the US pursuant to a law signed by President Biden earlier this year.


The ban is slated to take effect on Jan. 19 — one day before Trump, 78, takes his oath of office.

Earlier this month, the Supreme Court agreed to hear and fast-track a case filed by TikTok challenging the law.

Lawyers for the social media platform argue that the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act violates TikTok’s free speech rights under the First Amendment.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/27/us-ne...court-to-halt-tiktok-ban-from-taking-effect/#
The Supreme Court will also consider a separate bid by a group of TikTok users seeking to block the ban.

Trump, who led the original push to ban TikTok during his first term, reversed course on the campaign trail, pledging to “save TikTok” if elected.

Trump asks Supreme Court to halt TikTok ban from taking effect

President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to delay a law that would effectively ban TikTok from taking effect until after he assumes office.

nypost.com

 

[CobbVol]

Export bans to China and import tariffs on their products look to be on the horizon ...

From the Article:

China has added 28 U.S. entities to its export control list to "safeguard national security and interests", the commerce ministry said on Thursday.

The companies on the list include General Dynamics, Boeing Defense, Space & Security, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Missiles & Defense.

China is also banning the export of dual-use items to these companies starting on Thursday, the ministry said.

China adds 28 US entities to export control list

China has added 28 U.S. entities to its export control list to "safeguard national security and interests", the commerce ministry said on Thursday. The companies on the list include General Dynamics, Boeing Defense, Space & Security, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Missiles & Defense. China is also...

www.yahoo.com

 

[LouderVol]

Trump Asks Supreme Court to Halt TikTok Ban from taking effect​

President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to delay a law that would effectively ban TikTok from taking effect until after he assumes office.

Trump lawyer John Sauer, who is the solicitor general designee for the incoming administration, petitioned the high court to postpone its hearing on the TikTok ban, arguing that the matter could be redressed “through political means” instead.

Trump asks Supreme Court to halt TikTok ban from taking effect
The Chinese firm ByteDance had been ordered to divest TikTok or face an outright ban in the US pursuant to a law signed by President Biden earlier this year.


The ban is slated to take effect on Jan. 19 — one day before Trump, 78, takes his oath of office.

Earlier this month, the Supreme Court agreed to hear and fast-track a case filed by TikTok challenging the law.

Lawyers for the social media platform argue that the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act violates TikTok’s free speech rights under the First Amendment.

Trump asks Supreme Court to halt TikTok ban from taking effect
The Supreme Court will also consider a separate bid by a group of TikTok users seeking to block the ban.

Trump, who led the original push to ban TikTok during his first term, reversed course on the campaign trail, pledging to “save TikTok” if elected.

Trump asks Supreme Court to halt TikTok ban from taking effect

President-elect Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Friday to delay a law that would effectively ban TikTok from taking effect until after he assumes office.

nypost.com

that is going to confuse some people if Trump saves TikTok.