China Threatens War With The U.S.

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Rasputin_Vol said:
India, S. Korea, Japan, Russia and Australia are all within striking distance and are more than capable collectively of countering any Chinese overreach. Its time for them to handle their own affairs and we worry about our own.
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And none of those countries will jump in to our defense these days. All of them have struck trade deals with China. Non interventionism is what you're all about and when Trump craps all over our allies, you shouldn't expect their intervention.
 
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Mick said:
And none of those countries will jump in to our defense these days. All of them have struck trade deals with China. Non interventionism is what you're all about and when Trump craps all over our allies, you shouldn't expect their intervention.
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When have they ever? Seems like we’ve been policing the world militarily for 50+ years
 
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Mick said:
And none of those countries will jump in to our defense these days. All of them have struck trade deals with China. Non interventionism is what you're all about and when Trump craps all over our allies, you shouldn't expect their intervention.
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All the more reason why we need to mind our own business.
 
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ajvol01 said:
“These days”

When did they ever jump to our defense?

It seemed obvious you’re trying to blame something on Trump’s policies that was a problem well before Trump was elected.
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Dude I just posted a link about China's military. If you want to argue with Ras about our allies willingness to intervene in his hypothetical, be my guest. Hog must have lost his words again.
 
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Mick said:
Dude I just posted a link about China's military. If you want to argue with Ras about our allies willingness to intervene in his hypothetical, be my guest. Hog must have lost his words again.
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You brought up interventionism.
 
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Mick said:
I was speaking to a non interventionist and his assertion that those countries would intervene. Did you miss that part?
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I didn't miss the part where they were mentioned as taking care of their own business and USA minding theirs and you stated none of them would come to our defense. Therefore, you brought up interventionism.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I didn't miss the part where they were mentioned as taking care of their own business and USA minding theirs and you stated none of them would come to our defense. Therefore, you brought up interventionism.
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"India, S. Korea, Japan, Russia and Australia are all within striking distance and are more than capable collectively of countering any Chinese overreach. " But that's not what you would call interventionism? What would you call it, 3D chess?
 
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Mick said:
"India, S. Korea, Japan, Russia and Australia are all within striking distance and are more than capable collectively of countering any Chinese overreach. " But that's not what you would call interventionism? What would you call it, 3D chess?
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Their interventionism, not ours.
 
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Mick said:
Duh!
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You brought up an argument that didn't need to exist. We know those countries will not intervene for us and we don't need them to, as aj pointed out they never have, just like we don't need to stick our noses in the debate unless it affects us. Right now it doesn't.
Inferring that if we needed them to stick up for us they wouldn't because of trump. A useless political argument.
 
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Mick said:
I was speaking to a non interventionist and his assertion that those countries would intervene. Did you miss that part?
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They should intervene... or they should not. Has nothing to do with us if they step up and do whatever it is you want them to do.

I guess that brings up another question, what matter would need to be intervened in? Is it just the South China Sea Islands or something more?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
India, S. Korea, Japan, Russia and Australia are all within striking distance and are more than capable collectively of countering any Chinese overreach. Its time for them to handle their own affairs and we worry about our own.
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Let them worry about China. We should take this opportunity to pull ourselves out of the way.

 
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More fear porn...

China Poised To Establish 1st Ever Naval Base In Atlantic, Alarming US Officials | ZeroHedge

American officials who spoke to the WSJ indicated that the reports "raise the prospect that Chinese warships would be able to rearm and refit opposite the East Coast of the U.S.—a threat that is setting off alarm bells at the White House and Pentagon."
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Ahh, this may be the real concern... Chinese influence in Africa.

But for all the "alarm" in Washington and the defense establishment, it bears pointing out that Equatorial Guinea is 7,000 miles away from the United States mainland. Additionally the US maintains at least 750 bases across some 80 countries worldwide, including 29 or more known bases stretching from one side of Africa to the other.

China's first overseas military base was set up in Djibouti in 2017, on the Horn of Africa, and is less than 10 miles from Camp Lemonnier, known as the largest US base in Africa. US officials have long been concerned that along with a Chinese military footprint, Beijing hopes to coerce host countries into signing onto major Chinese investment and infrastructural deals, advancing China's geopolitical interests in the line with Xi's Belt and Road Initiative.
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NorthDallas40 said:
Pretty sure a May Day parade down Cumberland Ave would be ok 🤷‍♂️
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So you want to be ridiculous to try to prove a point?

Equatorial Guinea turns into Chinese marching on Cumberland. You guys are breathing new life in the old Domino Theory that got us into Vietnam and SE Asia.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Fear Porn huh.

How about China in Venezuela? How would that sit with you?
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Don't they and the Russians already have some presence in Venezuela?

I tell you what, if your side will worry far less about Taiwan, Ukraine and Equatorial Guinea, I would be more concerned about stuff going on in this hemisphere.
 
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