China's contempt for America

[Carl Pickens]

We never should have given up control of the Panama Canal.

Way to go Jimmy Carter......you ignorant poon

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Actually in today’s world it would be so easy to sabotage any canal or hurl a few missiles that would render them unusable on day 1
Jmo

And how would that benefit the Gulf States, China, India, Japan, South Korea, etc.?

What country would have an incentive to block any of these pinch points? South Africa to gain more port traffic? LOL...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If only we had negotiated a transpacific partnership. One that excludes China from its leadership. We could call it TPP.

oh wait, we did once. sighhh

TPP had nothing to do with this conversation. The TPP would have been a disaster because it would have threatened the sovereignty of each member in the agreement, among other things. TPP wouldn't have addressed the Mallacca Straits.

 

[Orangeburst]

And how would that benefit the Gulf States, China, India, Japan, South Korea, etc.?

What country would have an incentive to block any of these pinch points? South Africa to gain more port traffic? LOL...

I have no idea what you are talking about. I never said China would block their own commerce routes thru the Suez.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I never said China would block their own commerce routes thru the Suez.

I never said you mentioned China. I was directly responding to your post.

Actually in today’s world it would be so easy to sabotage any canal or hurl a few missiles that would render them unusable on day 1
Jmo

I'm simply asking you who would have an incentive to do that?

 

[VolinWayne]

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[AM64]

It’s time for us to partner with Mexico or Costa Rica and figure out how to dig a new one.

A year or so ago the Chinese had already been looking into building a new canal - seems like south of the current one. The width of the current canal limits some ships, and can't always keep up with demand apparently.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

A year or so ago the Chinese had already been looking into building a new canal - seems like south of the current one. The width of the current canal limits some ships, and can't always keep up with demand apparently.

Nicaragua is north of there.

 

[AM64]

Nicaragua is north of there.

Yep, I didn't stop to look up the plan - further south was in my mind.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yep, I didn't stop to look up the plan - further south was in my mind.

Either way, 2 things to consider:

1. The fact that they were interested in building a canal indicates that they have more of an interest in expanding trade routes, not limiting them
2. do you think the US, had we still had control of the Panama Canal, would want China constructing another one in this hemisphere? What excuse would the Americans come up with for not letting them build one?

 

[AM64]

Again, China has no incentive to block shipping lanes. They are the worlds largest importer and exporter. The legitimate fear China has is that the US could introduce sanctions and/or bottleneck shipping lanes in an attempt to not only hurt China, but any other country that the US wakes up and has a beef with.

I see you fail to mention that the US also has a presence in Djibouti and has just as many naval assets in the South China Sea as China does.

The US needs to get out of this British Empire model and start bringing these military assets back to this hemisphere. Let the Chinese, Indians, Australians, Koreans, Japanese and Gulf States sort out how shipping between the Suez and East Asia will be handled. None of the countries mentioned has an incentive in seeing those shipping lanes blocked. Only one country in the world right now would have a reason to do that right now, and it ain't China or Russia...

Currently China has no reason to block either canal as you state. Should we and others cut China out of the loop as the primary manufacturer of our goods, that can change. We are always shortsighted about a lot of things - the current biggest has been giving our manufacturing strength to China rather than working to fix archaic union ways and government meddling that pushed our labor rates well above the world labor market - and particularly above China's manipulated rates. Part of our failure is always our short term thinking and strategy; in this case, another major part is failing to recognize the Asian long game. They do it very well, and we fall into the trap thinking the rest of the world thinks and operates like we do. We are a nation dying on the vine while we build China's infrastructure, industry, and military - apparently the Chinese paid attention to what made us the post WW2 power even if our "leaders" didn't.

With respect to India, we do absolutely need to stay friendly there. They are not friends with China as it is. The unfortunate thing is that India's border with China and every country China has annexed is a little too short and far too inhospitable and rugged for a good old fashioned slugfest that ties up lots of conventional troops and weapons.

The Chinese S China Sea and African bases at this time would appear to be Chinese liabilities, but again we think short term, and they think long term. You have to ask are they real planned assets or are they thorny distractions. My guess is that the Chinese know far more about our strategic plans than we do about theirs. BTW I snapped this picture four years ago in Cuba - forgot the town but near Cienfuegos on the southern coast. The car is a Geely - Chinese brand that most of the US never heard of. China is working to own Cuba - repairing infrastructure and supplying cars, trucks, buses, etc - Americans aren't aware of that either.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

China Launches Celebrity War on Brands Rejecting Slave-Picked Cotton

A Chinese state propaganda war against Western companies launched this week continued Friday with the announcement of dozens of Chinese regime-approved celebrities canceling sponsorship deals with brands that oppose the use of Uyghur slaves to pick cotton.

The campaign began this week when members of the Communist Party uncovered corporate statements made by apparel companies H&M and Nike in the past year distancing themselves from the Chinese slave cotton industry. Extensive reporting over the past two years has revealed that, as an offshoot of its Uyghur concentration camp system, the Chinese regime has enslaved at least thousands members of the ethnic Uyghur minority and forced them to pick cotton. A critical report published in March 2020 by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) documented proof of Beijing offering government incentives to factories nationwide in exchange for purchasing Uyghur labor, then shipping Uyghur slaves to factories outside of their native Xinjiang province. The study listed 83 multinational companies, among them some of those targeted by Beijing today, as benefitting from Uyghur slavery.

China Launches Celebrity War on Brands Rejecting Slave-Picked Cotton

 

[AM64]

Either way, 2 things to consider:

1. The fact that they were interested in building a canal indicates that they have more of an interest in expanding trade routes, not limiting them
2. do you think the US, had we still had control of the Panama Canal, would want China constructing another one in this hemisphere? What excuse would the Americans come up with for not letting them build one?

I can't currently see the US stopping any Chinese plans. Take a look at congress, does anybody actually think there's any sign of intelligent life there - particularly with respect to our national defense or position in the world. Look at the two clowns GA just put in the senate. Look at where congressional interest lies currently. Sorry, but I can't see any rational decision makers anywhere near DC.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

I can't currently see the US stopping any Chinese plans. Take a look at congress, does anybody actually think there's any sign of intelligent life there - particularly with respect to our national defense or position in the world. Look at the two clowns GA just put in the senate. Look at where congressional interest lies currently. Sorry, but I can't see any rational decision makers anywhere near DC.

Well, congress certainly has illegal alien's interests before Americans.

 

[VolStrom]

I can't currently see the US stopping any Chinese plans. Take a look at congress, does anybody actually think there's any sign of intelligent life there - particularly with respect to our national defense or position in the world. Look at the two clowns GA just put in the senate. Look at where congressional interest lies currently. Sorry, but I can't see any rational decision makers anywhere near DC.

Thank God Ms Laughs a Lot and the evil empire bitch are 2nd and 3rd in command after an alzheimer's suffering old man. I feel good about our future.

 

[Orangeburst]

Currently China has no reason to block either canal as you state. Should we and others cut China out of the loop as the primary manufacturer of our goods, that can change. We are always shortsighted about a lot of things - the current biggest has been giving our manufacturing strength to China rather than working to fix archaic union ways and government meddling that pushed our labor rates well above the world labor market - and particularly above China's manipulated rates. Part of our failure is always our short term thinking and strategy; in this case, another major part is failing to recognize the Asian long game. They do it very well, and we fall into the trap thinking the rest of the world thinks and operates like we do. We are a nation dying on the vine while we build China's infrastructure, industry, and military - apparently the Chinese paid attention to what made us the post WW2 power even if our "leaders" didn't.

With respect to India, we do absolutely need to stay friendly there. They are not friends with China as it is. The unfortunate thing is that India's border with China and every country China has annexed is a little too short and far too inhospitable and rugged for a good old fashioned slugfest that ties up lots of conventional troops and weapons.

The Chinese S China Sea and African bases at this time would appear to be Chinese liabilities, but again we think short term, and they think long term. You have to ask are they real planned assets or are they thorny distractions. My guess is that the Chinese know far more about our strategic plans than we do about theirs. BTW I snapped this picture four years ago in Cuba - forgot the town but near Cienfuegos on the southern coast. The car is a Geely - Chinese brand that most of the US never heard of. China is working to own Cuba - repairing infrastructure and supplying cars, trucks, buses, etc - Americans aren't aware of that either.

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I would think those huge container ships cannot even transit the Panama Canal. It was severely limited a few decades ago. Not sure they have widened at as proposed at one time.

I could see the Chinese destroying the PC if at war with US, or at least sinking a vessel that would take some time to clear. It would impact the ability of the Atlantic Fleet to more easliy reach the Pacific. Have not looked at a map for transit distances from East US thru either route to the western Pacific..Long ways either route. I have seen the USN transit the cold Strait of Magellan for exercice.

Edit: Looks like they did complete the enlargement in 2016 with new standards. Interestingly, the Iowa BB were designed to fit the pre-war width standard, with a 1.5' clearance allowance! Talk about tight!

Panamax - Wikipedia

 

[allvol123]

China Launches Celebrity War on Brands Rejecting Slave-Picked Cotton

A Chinese state propaganda war against Western companies launched this week continued Friday with the announcement of dozens of Chinese regime-approved celebrities canceling sponsorship deals with brands that oppose the use of Uyghur slaves to pick cotton.

The campaign began this week when members of the Communist Party uncovered corporate statements made by apparel companies H&M and Nike in the past year distancing themselves from the Chinese slave cotton industry. Extensive reporting over the past two years has revealed that, as an offshoot of its Uyghur concentration camp system, the Chinese regime has enslaved at least thousands members of the ethnic Uyghur minority and forced them to pick cotton. A critical report published in March 2020 by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) documented proof of Beijing offering government incentives to factories nationwide in exchange for purchasing Uyghur labor, then shipping Uyghur slaves to factories outside of their native Xinjiang province. The study listed 83 multinational companies, among them some of those targeted by Beijing today, as benefitting from Uyghur slavery.

China Launches Celebrity War on Brands Rejecting Slave-Picked Cotton

Well that is nice. So big of Nike to make statements.

 

[RavinDave]

Idea:
America needs to ensure open shipping. America also needs a barrier to illegal immigration.

I propose we build a canal across our southern border.

Just dredge the Rio Grande. And stock it with crocodiles.

 

[RavinDave]

Currently China has no reason to block either canal as you state. Should we and others cut China out of the loop as the primary manufacturer of our goods, that can change. We are always shortsighted about a lot of things - the current biggest has been giving our manufacturing strength to China rather than working to fix archaic union ways and government meddling that pushed our labor rates well above the world labor market - and particularly above China's manipulated rates. Part of our failure is always our short term thinking and strategy; in this case, another major part is failing to recognize the Asian long game. They do it very well, and we fall into the trap thinking the rest of the world thinks and operates like we do. We are a nation dying on the vine while we build China's infrastructure, industry, and military - apparently the Chinese paid attention to what made us the post WW2 power even if our "leaders" didn't.

With respect to India, we do absolutely need to stay friendly there. They are not friends with China as it is. The unfortunate thing is that India's border with China and every country China has annexed is a little too short and far too inhospitable and rugged for a good old fashioned slugfest that ties up lots of conventional troops and weapons.

The Chinese S China Sea and African bases at this time would appear to be Chinese liabilities, but again we think short term, and they think long term. You have to ask are they real planned assets or are they thorny distractions. My guess is that the Chinese know far more about our strategic plans than we do about theirs. BTW I snapped this picture four years ago in Cuba - forgot the town but near Cienfuegos on the southern coast. The car is a Geely - Chinese brand that most of the US never heard of. China is working to own Cuba - repairing infrastructure and supplying cars, trucks, buses, etc - Americans aren't aware of that either.

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Isn’t Geely the company that bought Volvo about 10 years ago?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Chinese Propaganda artist mocks Western criticism of human rights abuses against Uighur Muslims with illustration of 'BBC News journalist' in white hood, cotton-picking slaves and kneeling police officer

• Digital image shows western journalists in KKK hoods interviewing a scarecrow

A digital propaganda image mocking Western criticism of Chinese human rights abuses has gone viral in the country's social media.

The picture seems to show a journalist and cameraman with white pointed Ku Klux Klan-style hoods, interviewing a scarecrow in a field of cotton and black slaves.

Steadying a cross on which a scarecrow is held is a hooded figure wearing a Minneapolis police uniform, an apparent reference to the police officer who pressed his knee on the neck of a dying George Floyd last year.

The picture shows two figures with white pointed Ku Klux Klan-style hoods interviewing a scarecrow in a field of cotton and Black slaves, while one of the journalists holds up a microphone with a logo that looks similar to 'BBC News'. At the bottom of the illustration reads: 'Can you tell us what unfair treatment you have suffered, Miss Scarecrow?'

Chinese propaganda artist mocks Western criticism of human rights abuses | Daily Mail Online

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Chinese Propaganda artist mocks Western criticism of human rights abuses against Uighur Muslims with illustration of 'BBC News journalist' in white hood, cotton-picking slaves and kneeling police officer

• Digital image shows western journalists in KKK hoods interviewing a scarecrow

A digital propaganda image mocking Western criticism of Chinese human rights abuses has gone viral in the country's social media.

The picture seems to show a journalist and cameraman with white pointed Ku Klux Klan-style hoods, interviewing a scarecrow in a field of cotton and black slaves.

Steadying a cross on which a scarecrow is held is a hooded figure wearing a Minneapolis police uniform, an apparent reference to the police officer who pressed his knee on the neck of a dying George Floyd last year.

The picture shows two figures with white pointed Ku Klux Klan-style hoods interviewing a scarecrow in a field of cotton and Black slaves, while one of the journalists holds up a microphone with a logo that looks similar to 'BBC News'. At the bottom of the illustration reads: 'Can you tell us what unfair treatment you have suffered, Miss Scarecrow?'

Chinese propaganda artist mocks Western criticism of human rights abuses | Daily Mail Online

Hmmm... The US isn't used to people fighting back like this in the propaganda wars...

 

[AM64]

Hmmm... The US isn't used to people fighting back like this in the propaganda wars...

The Chinese seem to be a bit confused in their mix of metaphors. My first thought was the scarecrow's coat doesn't have a yellow star of David. A very weird patchwork of art from someone who obviously doesn't know much about the western world. Bizarre to say the least. Maybe they should just stick to what they know best ... how exploit lesser classes like they've done for centuries.

 

[BreatheUT]

China issues veiled threat. Who in their right mind thinks Xi talks like this if Pres. Trump was still in office. America is flailing.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

China issues veiled threat. Who in their right mind thinks Xi talks like this if Pres. Trump was still in office. America is flailing.

china's threats are becoming more aggressive
They are itching to fight us. Sadly, theyll win. We're to busy getting trannies free surgery and teaching white they're racist living in a racist country.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

The Chinese seem to be a bit confused in their mix of metaphors. My first thought was the scarecrow's coat doesn't have a yellow star of David. A very weird patchwork of art from someone who obviously doesn't know much about the western world. Bizarre to say the least. Maybe they should just stick to what they know best ... how exploit lesser classes like they've done for centuries.

I wouldn't worry, most blm minorities won't care to notice