Chris Petersen steps down

[BUBear]

If Mixon was the last straw, he would have never played. Stoops could have come back if he’d have wanted...he didn’t.

BMDs were pissed that Mixon was allowed back. Stoops and Boren were allowed to let things smooth over then ushered out. Kinda odd the timing of Stoops "retirement" huh? Especially with the team he had coming back.

 

[butchna]

BMDs were pissed that Mixon was allowed back. Stoops and Boren were allowed to let things smooth over then ushered out. Kinda odd the timing of Stoops "retirement" huh? Especially with the team he had coming back.

BMD’s were fed the fraternity on a silver platter and all was good. Yeah timing was so odd that there’s no way it was anything other than Stoops making his own decision.

 

[BUBear]

BMD’s were fed the fraternity on a silver platter and all was good. Yeah timing was so odd that there’s no way it was anything other than Stoops making his own decision.

There was a power struggle at the very top that wanted Boren out and Stoops was Boren's golden boy. Both are gone and the BMDs got their way. Joe C is still there because he chose the winning side.

 

[butchna]

There was a power struggle at the very top that wanted Boren out and Stoops was Boren's golden boy. Both are gone and the BMDs got their way. Joe C is still there because he chose the winning side.

I don’t know anything about Boren, but if Stoops was forced out then it’s odd he hasn’t taken another major HC job when there would’ve been umpteen opportunities. Sticking with he was tired and stepped down of his own accord.

 

[CornPoke]

Jason Garret on his way out of Dallas. OC Kellen Moore, who Petersen coached at Boise St. Chris Petersen Dallas Cowboys next head coach. Book it.

 

[05_never_again]

He's a different type of breed. He is family-oriented and doesn't revolve his life around football. I would say one of the most under the radar coaches in recent memory.

This x 1000.

Petersen is kind of like Dabo except not as cheesy and in-your-face with it. Football is obviously important to him, but I've always gotten the impression that football is one of many things he enjoys in his life, not the thing he enjoys in his life. Huge contrast between someone like Petersen and someone like Saban or Urban.

 

[05_never_again]

There was a power struggle at the very top that wanted Boren out and Stoops was Boren's golden boy. Both are gone and the BMDs got their way. Joe C is still there because he chose the winning side.

So you're saying that Boren's departure led to Stoops retiring, because they were really tight? If Stoops left and really didn't want to, there's a ton of big time coaching jobs he'd turned down then for some odd reason.

While it was shocking at the time, Stoops rationale kind of checks out. He had been on record for a long time saying he wasn't going to coach into his old age. He hired a guy in Lincoln Riley that could ultimately take over for him, which he's done and done really well. Hell, I think Jerry Jones wants Riley to come coach the Cowboys; that's how highly he's thought of.

Stoops stepped away in the summer, well after NSD and well ahead of the start of fall camp/the season, perhaps the most advantageous time to do it. That transition appears to have been handled about as smooth as it could possibly be done and their program hasn't missed a beat; it's as if he never left. Ohio St's transition was the same way.

 

[BUBear]

So you're saying that Boren's departure led to Stoops retiring, because they were really tight? If Stoops left and really didn't want to, there's a ton of big time coaching jobs he'd turned down then for some odd reason.

While it was shocking at the time, Stoops rationale kind of checks out. He had been on record for a long time saying he wasn't going to coach into his old age. He hired a guy in Lincoln Riley that could ultimately take over for him, which he's done and done really well. Hell, I think Jerry Jones wants Riley to come coach the Cowboys; that's how highly he's thought of.

Stoops stepped away in the summer, well after NSD and well ahead of the start of fall camp/the season, perhaps the most advantageous time to do it. That transition appears to have been handled about as smooth as it could possibly be done and their program hasn't missed a beat; it's as if he never left. Ohio St's transition was the same way.

Stoops is a very private family oriented man. His program was out of control behind the scenes and heading toward Barry Switzer depths. Boren was covering for his boy (plus his own transgressions against the university). BMDs will never let OU football get Switzer bad again. Stoops didn't want the public to find out how bad things had gotten and embaress his wife and children.

Ever wonder why Howard Schnellenberger only coached there one season? It wasn't because of on field performance.

 

[LouderVol]

Stoops is a very private family oriented man. His program was out of control behind the scenes and heading toward Barry Switzer depths. Boren was covering for his boy (plus his own transgressions against the university). BMDs will never let OU football get Switzer bad again. Stoops didn't want the public to find out how bad things had gotten and embaress his wife and children.

Ever wonder why Howard Schnellenberger only coached there one season? It wasn't because of on field performance.

If it was heading down the drains why keep the same system and promote from within? That would seem to be continuing the problem.

We have seen colleges actually go they what you are talking about. Heck UT has gone thru it, so we have seen first hand what it looks like.

You dont come out of that and stay rosey like Oklahoma has.

 

[05_never_again]

Stoops is a very private family oriented man. His program was out of control behind the scenes and heading toward Barry Switzer depths. Boren was covering for his boy (plus his own transgressions against the university). BMDs will never let OU football get Switzer bad again. Stoops didn't want the public to find out how bad things had gotten and embaress his wife and children.

Ever wonder why Howard Schnellenberger only coached there one season? It wasn't because of on field performance.

I don't know as much about Oklahoma/Big 12 football as you obviously do, but what you're saying doesn't quite add up. #1, Stoops is a family-oriented man but Boren was "his boy" and as you said Boren had a lot of transgressions himself that eventually resulted in him being forced out. #2, the promotion from within was really convenient and seamless, as if that was the plan the whole time. Stoops had also said for years, even when he was really young (and he's still relatively young), that he was never going to be a Paterno/Bowden type and coach into old age.

 

[GoDucks349]

I don't think Peterson felt comfortable with the pressure of a top power 5 conference team. Boise was a better fit. Just my opinion....

 

[05_never_again]

I don't think Peterson felt comfortable with the pressure of a top power 5 conference team. Boise was a better fit. Just my opinion....

That would make sense if he had underachieved, though. He won the Pac 12 twice in the last 3 years, and Washington isn't a place that is going to turn the screws on you hard if you go 7-5 after a nice run like that. I honestly don't know if there are any insane pressure cooker, fishbowl jobs in the Pac 12. Before you say USC is one, remember they just decided to keep Clay Helton around another year.

In the Pac 12 there are places where football is more important than others, like USC, Oregon, Washington, etc., but I don't think there's any place in that conference where the admin/boosters/fans are as hellbent on winning as much as a place like Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio St, etc.

 

[GoDucks349]

That would make sense if he had underachieved, though. He won the Pac 12 twice in the last 3 years, and Washington isn't a place that is going to turn the screws on you hard if you go 7-5 after a nice run like that. I honestly don't know if there are any insane pressure cooker, fishbowl jobs in the Pac 12. Before you say USC is one, remember they just decided to keep Clay Helton around another year.

From some of the things I've read it feels more like self inflicted pressure by Peterson

In the Pac 12 there are places where football is more important than others, like USC, Oregon, Washington, etc., but I don't think there's any place in that conference where the admin/boosters/fans are as hellbent on winning as much as a place like Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio St, etc.

Yea, I agree with you about PAC-12 pressure cooking from admin/boosters/fans. I do think Wash, USC and UCLA have a bit of that in football. Basically, LA schools get more pressure and Seattle has visions of grandeur. And yes I know USC just retained a football coach that's struggling a bit. In basketball, AZ and again the LA schools.

At Oregon if any program gets pressure it's probably track and football with basketball a third.