Ciudad Juarez is lost

#51
#51
I do not object to sending in troops to take back our cities. However, isn't it written in the Constitution that the US military can't be used for law enforcement purposes?

I personally don't feel this qualifies as a law enforcement venture. I see it as a national security issue, but is it really constitutional? Interested in other viewpoints.
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#54
#54
I do not object to sending in troops to take back our cities. However, isn't it written in the Constitution that the US military can't be used for law enforcement purposes?

I personally don't feel this qualifies as a law enforcement venture. I see it as a national security issue, but is it really constitutional? Interested in other viewpoints.
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The National Guard is used for law enforcement purposes.
 
#55
#55
and I'm afraid that El Paso will fall eventually.

Reports of over 9000 cartel members in town according to an El Paso newspaper.

How far does it go until we (U.S. Military) go in? And I'm not talking "task forces".

Northern Mexico is turning into the Somalia of the West.
 
#56
#56
Its similar to when Pancho Villa fought his revolutionary battles along the border towns, and folks could purchase tickets to watch the "show" from across the river. We're all just "watching" this genocide take place.
 
#57
#57
this is the weirdest thread - saying legalizing drugs won't get rid of the cartels somehow gets interpreted as being in favor of the War on Drugs (MJ in particular).

Legalizing drugs may not get rid of the cartels, but we'll probably never hear about them again.
 
#58
#58
The National Guard is used for law enforcement purposes.

Only where they are expressly authorized by the Constitution. It's called posse comitatus.
Martial law basically has to be declared for them to serve in a law enforcement role inside our borders. The National Guard only supports border officers. They don't actively arrest individuals.

Posse Comitatus Act and the US Military on the Border – How the Posse Comitatus Act Limits the Use of US Military Forces in Border Security
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#59
#59
Only where they are expressly authorized by the Constitution. It's called posse comitatus.
Martial law basically has to be declared for them to serve in a law enforcement role inside our borders. The National Guard only supports border officers. They don't actively arrest individuals.

Posse Comitatus Act and the US Military on the Border – How the Posse Comitatus Act Limits the Use of US Military Forces in Border Security
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Isn't national guard under the order of the governor unless the president calls them to duty? I don't think there's anything unconstitutional about the TX governor calling the guard to action.
 
#60
#60
Isn't national guard under the order of the governor unless the president calls them to duty? I don't think there's anything unconstitutional about the TX governor calling the guard to action.

What I read, they were considered regular military. Governors have authority over the Guard, but martial law must be declared for them to be engaged in law enforcement. I will dig deeper.
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#61
#61
Pretty good read. This guy says the National Guard is exempt from posse comitatus as it relates to defending the borders.

The Myth of Posse Comitatus


Another look. This one calls into question Eisenhower's actions of calling in the 101st Airborne to enforce the federal court ruling in The Little Rock Crisis.

US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez

It seems to me that it is a bit unsettled as to the extent the military can be used as LE agents and under exactly what circumstances. The Coast Guard is exempt from the restrictions.
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#62
#62
Jose de Jesus Menendez has been captured apparently. That will help a little, but the Zetas are still in control. This helps them too.
 
#63
#63
From the Rio Grande Guardian:

LAREDO, July 2 (2011) - U.S. residents are being advised not to visit Nuevo Laredo this Fourth of July Weekend.

The advisory comes from the Texas Department of Public Safety and the Webb County Sheriff’s Office.

Both agencies say they have received credible intelligence from multiple sources indicating that the Zetas Cartel is planning to target U.S. citizens who travel to Nuevo Laredo this weekend.

“According to the information we have received, the Zetas are planning a possible surge in criminal activity, such as robberies, extortions, car-jackings and vehicle theft, specifically against U.S. citizens,” said DPS Director Steven C. McCraw. “We urge U.S. citizens to avoid travel to Nuevo Laredo this weekend if it can be avoided.”
 
#64
#64
GM just can't build manufacturing plants in Mexico fast enough.
 
#65
#65
Tucson police confirm: Yes, Hizballah is operating in Mexico - Jihad Watch

A document drop by LulzSec has revealed an ominous
bulletin from police officials in Tucson, Arizona.

In short, law enforcement is advised to be
on the lookout for Hezbollah terrorists
operating in the traditional smuggling
corridors on our (wide-open) southern
border with Mexico.


Presence in the Tri-Border Region Made up of Puerto
Iguazu, Argentina; Foz do Iguazu, Brazil; and Ciudad
del Este, Paraguay, the area in South America known
as the Tri-Border area (TBA), has long been considered
a safe haven for organized crime and Islamic terrorist
networks, including Hezbollah.

As of 2002, the population of the TBA reached
630,000 of which approximately 25,000 were Arab
or of Arab descent. Illegal activity in the region
includes counterfeiting, money laundering, and the
easy acquisition of false documents. The recent
arrest of Moussa Ali Hamdan [arrested in Ciudad del
Este, Paraguay, for conspiring to provide material
support to Hezbollah] confirms Hezbollah’s continued
presence in the region.

Presence in Mexico


Based on a study done by Georgetown University, the
number of immigrants from Lebanon and Syria living in
Mexico exceeds 200,000. Along with Iran, Syria is one
of Hezbollah’s strongest financial and political
supporters, and Lebanon is its country of origin.

In July of this year, Mexican authorities arrested
Jameel Nasr in Tijuana, Baja California. Nasr was
alleged to be tasked with establishing the Hezbollah
network in Mexico and throughout South America.

In April of last year, the arrest of Jamal Yousef –
in New York City - exposed a weapons cache
of 100 M-16 assault rifles, 100 AR-15 rifles,
2,500 hand grenades, C4 explosives and
antitank munitions.


According to Yousef, the weapons, which were being
stored in Mexico, had been stolen from Iraq with the
help of his cousin who was a member of Hezbollah.

With the arrest of Jameel Nasr and Jamal Yousef,
obvious concerns have arisen concerning Hezbollah’s
presence in Mexico and possible ties to Mexican drug
trafficking organizations (DTO’s) operating along the
U.S. – Mexico border. The potential partnership bares
alarming implications due to Hezbollah’s long established
capabilities, specifically their expertise in the making of
vehicle borne improvised explosive devises (VBIED’s).

FBI Searching for Hezbollah in Arizona - Border Reporter ? News That Crossed The Line

Apparently, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force has
been watching an Arizona City man who moved here
from Iran, hitched up with an American woman then
told her he was going to blow up a nightclub using
bombs he learned to make in a Hezbollah training camp.

The investigation, conducted in May, culminated in a
search warrant returned in U.S. District Court in Tucson.

Keep in mind that the man was turned in by his wife
who also turned him in for domestic violence and
assault charges in the same call, the warrant shows.
------------------

When the FBI ran a background check on him, they
found he arrived in the U.S. in December 2003 and
lived in Los Angeles, Georgia, Alabama, Seattle,
Phoenix, Arizona City and Tennessee.
 

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