Class Ranking Prediction

I stated this in another thread, but I think it fits here as well.

In the 80’s UT was built on great OLines and running backs. A QB or two panned out and the next thing we know, the Vols are winning SEC titles and top ranked recruits are knocking down the doors to come to Knoxville (I know ‘85, that was an outlier). That led to the 90’s-early 00’s.

As of today....UT has a solid, albeit young, OLine and running backs. A QB with a high ceiling and a “boywonder” QB signing Wednesday. Things look familiar. Just saying.
 
To much emphasis is put on recruiting rankings by services. Can you build a successful program with classes consistently ranked in the 10-15 range? Yes you can. Can you win national titles with classes in that range? Yes you can. There are many factors that play into building a championship program. People that want to say that Butch recruited better aren't looking at all the factors in play. What is more important? Where your class is ranked on signing day, or where that class ranks after 4 years in your program? IMO, Pruitt is building this thing the right way with identifying players with a particular mentality and work ethic. Building a program for long lasting success goes way beyond a number allotted to a class on signing day. But let's look at rankings for a minute. If we finish between 10-15 in the actual team rankings (wins and losses not recruiting) next season, would you consider Pruitt and staff to be competent coaches, or failures?

Good post. Look at Clemson recruiting 2012-2016. On average around 15th. Then they win their first natty in 35 years in 2016. We need to give Pruitt time & he’ll turn this around. I think he actually knows what he’s doing. Defensively, especially the 2nd 1/2 of the season, we looked better than we have in a long time. Also, Chaney was a great hire. I don’t know where we’ll finish in the recruiting rankings (my prediction is 14) but I’m happy regardless. Real progress is being made on all fronts, most notably at the line of scrimmage and that’s where you gotta win in this conference.

Go VOLS!
 
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It seems to be a popular refrain here to question the number of DB’s committed to Florida right now. The number is 7 (if you look at the list it will show 8 because Finley Graham is listed as a DB. He will not be a DB at UF, he’s a punt/kick returner and may play a little slot WR eventually - think Brandon James from several years ago).

To criticize 7 DB’s committed shows a lack of knowledge about UF’s current roster and DB depth. This is a huge position of need for UF. Florida only has 3 experienced CB’s/NB’s returning; Marco Wilson, Kaiir Elam and Tray Dean. That may become 2 if Wilson goes pro and that’s 50/50 right now.

Safety isn’t much better. UF returns 3 experienced Safeties; Brad Stewart, Donovan Stiner and Shawn Davis. Stewart is on his last chance in terms of discipline, already been suspended twice. Davis also may go pro. That would leave 1 safety returning with experience.

So low numbers returning combined with the fact that UF coaches were not happy with the secondary play this year particularly at safety and nickel. These areas were far from elite.

Florida did have two promising CB’s redshirt this year who will help the depth situation; Jaydon Hill and Chester Kimbrough.

So in general, the entire secondary is a huge position of need in terms of numbers of bodies and the need for a talent upgrade. This is why any Gator fan with knowledge of the roster is pleased that Mullen is loading up in this area. Considering most teams constantly have 5-6 DB’s on the field these days, signing 7 doesn’t seem out of proportion at all.

Overall, this recruiting cycle for Mullen has been outstanding. I expect every position to be more than adequately filled on Wednesday except RB. That will be a spot they try and sure-up by the February signing date, plus maybe 1 more WR. Mullen has a great shot at a top 5 class which will go a long way in destroying this “he can’t recruit” narrative.

I expect a good close for UT as well. I agree with most here who think UT will finish between 12-15. Washington and Jospeh will be the two who can really swing some positive momentum UT’s way.

Good post, I don't agree with the Vol fans that poo all over Mullen, he's one of the best in the business overall and really a good fit in Gainesville.

I think the game next season will be the 1st time in a while the Vols will matchup favorably with skill guys outside the hashes on both sides. Vols defensive backfield is going to be a really good physical and talented ballhawking group.
 
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.......... because we aren't
Callaway and Hyatt are 4 stars at WR but the other spots we have 3 stars ... Ga and Fla are getting alot of 4 and 5 's at same positions GA gets 5 star RB's every year .. our offensive staff struggling in recruitin g
 
Callaway and Hyatt are 4 stars at WR but the other spots we have 3 stars ... Ga and Fla are getting alot of 4 and 5 's at same positions GA gets 5 star RB's every year .. our offensive staff struggling in recruitin g
Peevish fellow, as usual.
 
Why sure we are ... look at what we have committed 3 stars all over the board at those positions .. we will never catch Ga or Fla recruiting like this ...
Callaway and Hyatt are 4 stars at WR but the other spots we have 3 stars ... Ga and Fla are getting alot of 4 and 5 's at same positions GA gets 5 star RB's every year .. our offensive staff struggling in recruitin g
 
69-68 over past decade.

6 bowl games in past decade.

4 different coaches in past decade.

Tennessee hasn't had a player mentioned in the Heisman race in these recruits lifetime

Today's High School Seniors were 6 years old the last time Tennessee won 10 ball games and the the East division.

Why can't people understand this? IMO it's a miracle we are even in the same conversation and competing for the same players as UGA, Oklahoma and Alabama at the moment.

Does anyone like it? Heck no, but man put things into perspective.

These coaches didn't forget how to close, Tennessee's past decade is the roadblock.
 
Im surprised by how well USCjr is recruiting this cycle given their horrible 4-8 season and downward trend each year CWM has been there, and swirling rumors of his termination earlier in the month.
 
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Why sure we are ... look at what we have committed 3 stars all over the board at those positions .. we will never catch Ga or Fla recruiting like this ...
You sound like an astronomer with your star gazing. Relax and see what develops Uranus
 
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Im surprised by how well USCjr is recruiting this cycle given their horrible 4-8 season and downward trend each year CWM has been there, and swirling rumors of his termination earlier in the month.
We are 18th in total recruiting rankings but 12th in avg. per recruit. We have a chance to finish top 10 IMO.
 
Im surprised by how well USCjr is recruiting this cycle given their horrible 4-8 season and downward trend each year CWM has been there, and swirling rumors of his termination earlier in the month.

Its sort of the perfect storm for Muschump with Hammond school having two blue chip DTs in his backyard. Couple that with his son going to school there and it all comes together. Lloyd was also a big pull by Thomas Brown.

With him in charge, they will likely always have a solid D and workhorse running backs in the armpit.
 
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If we get Washington, flip Hardy, and get someone like Clowney, my guess is 12 or maybe 11. If we tell Miller to kick rocks then that opens the door for a potential bump into the top 10 depending on his replacement.
 
Why sure we are ... look at what we have committed 3 stars all over the board at those positions .. we will never catch Ga or Fla recruiting like this ...
Hope you are happier today. We have the exact same.amount of 4* as UF and the same amount of 3*.
UF has a single 2* just like us as well. The only difference is they have 1 5* and we have none. Basically if we get Washington we are a dead tie with UF in total recruits and number of stars.
UF 1/13/9/1
UT 0/13/9/1
Used rivals for the information.

Go Vols
 
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We will end up 7-9th on rivals and 10th-12th on 247 come feb. No worse than 13th of 247 and no higher than 6th on rivals. Washington,Hardy and Beckwith gets us top 10 in both come feb. GBO!!!!
 
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