Clausen gets start against Florida

#26
#26
i dont like the two wb system though. that is why i said bench him. pick a friggin qb and stick with him. this will not work under sanders. there is no way. and what does it do to the rest of the team?
 
#27
#27
Ainge didn't get the TD on the first drive because the receiver dropped a pass on 3rd down that hit him right in the hands.
 
#28
#28
It happened 10 other times in the game too. We don't have time to let all those be excuses too do we?

What do you think about my thoughts on Ainge being a starter. He hasn't exactly SHINED as a starter in ANY game ya know.
 
#29
#29
Also, I am not sure what you mean by "can't start". He scored on his first two possessions. He was 3-5 and threw the ball really well. One incompletion was a TD to Meachem that the DB batted away at the last second. The other was the pass I mentioned above that Justin Reed dropped.
 
#30
#30
He did real well starting out yesterday... I'm not gonna go out and say that he WOULD have been better if they left him in, but I think it is interesting he did well when he was in then sucked after he was left out for too long. I think there might really be something there.

In the end, Ainge did suck it up like a hoover but I think it's notable. There's a lot of the times QB's don't do well when they can't establish a rythm with the rest of the offense.
 
#31
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Sep 4, 2005 9:57 PM
It happened 10 other times in the game too.  We don't  have time to let all those be excuses too do we?
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No but he can't throw it and catch it.
 
#32
#32
Facts are all fall Clausen has outplayed Ainge and he did again in the game against UAB. Ainge has a problem whether its mental, physical or mechanical and needs to get it straightened out. Right now Clausen is the better option for this Tennessee team.
 
#33
#33
OK

I'll explain it with Stats.


When He Has Started
AUB 17-35 4 INT 1 TD
UGA 12-21 1 TD
MISS 14-40 1 INT 1 TD
ALA 10-22 2 INT 1 TD
SC 9-16 1 INT 3 TD
ND 11-18 1TD

UAB 5-14 2 INT 1TD

So, that's 78-166 10 INT 9 TD's

When He Has Not Started
UNLV 10-17 2 TD's
FLOR 16-24 1 INT 3 TD's
LA Tech 10-15 3 TD's

So That is...... 36-51 1 INT 8 TD's

Can you look at those numbers and tell me he is better STARTING than he is playing OFF THE BENCH???
 
#34
#34
I agree that switching QBs back-and-forth during the game is not a good idea. It wasn't that bad last year, but that was with two very different QBs. As for Clausen/Ainge yesterday, Clausen did have a better game, but we still did not score the entire second half. In the UF game, unless Ainge sucks in practice, I would start Ainge and never take him out unless it becomes clear that we have to. I mean, it was 10-0 after two drives, and then we're changing quarterbacks.
 
#35
#35
I am not sure who that is directed at Beltway, I never said Ainge should be the starter next game. All I said was that he played well in his first two drives yesterday. And I don't think bringing up dropped passes is making excuses.
 
#36
#36
It was directed at you because when I pointed out I thought Ainge played better off the bench you cam back with, "Also, I am not sure what you mean by "can't start"." So I wanted to show you some STATS to back up my opinion that he seems to STRUGGLE more when he starts as opposed to when he comes in off the bench.

Never meant to imply that you said he should start at Florida.
 
#37
#37
Gotcha. I'm just not sure I buy into the importance of him starting or coming off the bench makes that much difference. He played well as the starter but lost something as the game went on.
 
#39
#39
I don't see how you guys can read the stats I posted, and still think he plays as well or better as a starter, but I'm obviously not going to get any concessions. That's cool. I think I found out something about him though. IF he doesn't change whatever it is, that makes him so tight as a starter, then he will never succeede. I hope he does, trust me, but he has some work to do.
 
#40
#40
I just think there are too many other factors involved to just say that he played well in the three games he did not start so don't start him.
 
#42
#42
Originally posted by vol_freak@Sep 4, 2005 11:15 PM
I just think there are too many other factors involved to just say that he played well in the three games he did not start so don't start him.
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Fair enough. :thumbsup:
 
#43
#43
Games make stats. Stats don't make games. Not starting Ainge so we can get more out of him by bringing him in later does not make much sense. Pick a QB and stick with him!
 
#44
#44
Originally posted by ukvols@Sep 4, 2005 10:41 PM
Games make stats.  Stats don't make games.  Not starting Ainge so we can get more out of him by bringing him in later does not make much sense.  Pick a QB and stick with him!
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I agree UKVOLS. Switching is not the way to go. I have re-watched the game and it looks like EA is trying to play more like Rick than he is being himself. This kid has a cannon for an arm and he is not using it like he did last year. This dink and dunk and screen crap is old. I am in ht ecamp of thinking EA has a psyche problem. He needs to go back to being himself and find a way to regain his conffidence. Let us all remember we are talking about YOUNG men here. Some mature a lot faster. I thought he and the whole offense started off really well Sat. THe change of qb changed the whole momentum of the game IMO. I really like coach but I think he bumbled this one. I think if EA stayed in we would not be talking about this now. Or if they had started Rick and left him in the same.
 
#45
#45
As i recall the excuses of losing rythm is not a very valid point for EA.
Did Clausen lose rythm after being replaced after his first series? No , Ainge had two more posessions after that and was nonproductive. RC calmly took the Vols down the field 80 yards in the last two minutes before the half. That was RC's second stint under the gun in the first half. If he didnt score on that drive would you say he was not warmed up?

Whoever it is they need to be ready at all times. No excuses why he did this and that. They should not be playing if they can cant come in the huddle to lead a team to a score. EA simply overthrew his recievers and failed to look off the safety. Now, he may play better next time but I dont think CPF wants to find out in the SWAMP. Players look up to RC as the leader and many say he calms people down in the huddle. UF has more talent and defense that far outshines the UAB defense.
 
#46
#46
Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 4, 2005 8:10 PM
Yes, he sucked yesterday... Is he not allowed to have a bad game?
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man you need to get over it i dont know just how good of a buddy yyou are with ainge. But he sucked yesterday and in all the scrimmages this year so quit crying about it and take it like a man he has sucked this season!!
 
#48
#48
Originally posted by thebiglowboski@Sep 5, 2005 10:59 AM
man you need to get over it i dont know just how good of a buddy yyou are with ainge. But he sucked yesterday and in all the scrimmages this year so quit crying about it and take it like a man he has sucked this season!!
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:boredom:

I've said my piece... Rick gets the start, but it would be foolish to abandon Ainge.
 
#49
#49
Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 5, 2005 1:07 PM
:boredom:

I've said my piece... Rick gets the start, but it would be foolish to abandon Ainge.
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So it would be foolish to abandon ainge if rick can get the job done??
 
#50
#50
We all know the talent Ainge has. We saw it last season. He just needs to be coached up better, the O-line needs to hold better so he can plant his feet and wait a second. When Ainge gets that, he can plant his feet and deliver the accurate deep ball or that infamous zip pass that takes the length of the bat of an eye to get to the receiver.

Now, go with Clausen. Obviously. He's earned it. But it seems like many want to give up on Ainge already.
 
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