Climate Change Report

[Mick]

I always thought you played stupid....now I begin to wonder.

Seriously is there a proposal to raise your taxes to make sure China, Russia, and India contribute to curb carbon emissions? What are you screeching about? You can breath carbon dioxide and drink piss. You seem more worried someone might not be contributing;therefore, you just sit around and screech.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Seriously is there a proposal to raise your taxes to make sure China, Russia, and India contribute to curb carbon emissions? What are you screeching about? You can breath carbon dioxide and drink piss. You seem more worried someone might not be contributing;therefore, you just sit around and screech.

Damn you are dense.

 

[Mick]

Damn you are dense.

So you don't currently pay a climate change tax nor is there a proposal for you to pay a climate change tax. The only mechanism we had to hold countries accountable for not meeting goals was cheered by the mass of idiots when Trump pulled out of the Paris climate accords. Your screeching on this subject is noted. If you were trying to make a point, spit it out.

 

[Roustabout]

Seriously is there a proposal to raise your taxes to make sure China, Russia, and India contribute to curb carbon emissions? What are you screeching about? You can breath carbon dioxide and drink piss. You seem more worried someone might not be contributing;therefore, you just sit around and screech.

Seriously. We are already paying. The average price of a car is significantly higher due to all the restricted devices, sensors, etc.
the trucking business is worse. And it significantly affects the reliability and down time of these vehicles. And that is just one industry.

Our tax dollars spent billions on scrubbers for coal fired plants and now those plants are closing. Money flushed. Literally billions of dollars.

The fact is we are paying and they are not. They do what they want and as a result are moving past ya in the global economy.

 

[MontyPython]

...I doubt man is changing the climate...

Commercial fishermen relied on the same mantra regarding cod, haddock and other fish species in New England 25 years ago. They basically said that "overfishing" was a myth, and that mankind was incapable of harming the environment. As history has proven, they were wrong. Very wrong. Cod populations have still yet to recover from what we did to them.

Just as our oceans are vulnerable, so too is the air we breathe.

100 million metric tons of CO2 pumped yearly into our atmosphere which is only 10 miles thick. You do the math. It affects our planet. 97% of climate scientists aren't wrong.

 

[McDad]

Commercial fishermen relied on the same mantra regarding cod, haddock and other fish species in New England 25 years ago. They basically said that "overfishing" was a myth, and that mankind was incapable of harming the environment. As history has proven, they were wrong. Very wrong. Cod populations have still yet to recover from what we did to them.

Just as our oceans are vulnerable, so too is the air we breathe.

100 million metric tons of CO2 pumped yearly into our atmosphere which is only 10 miles thick. You do the math. It affects our planet. 97% of climate scientists aren't wrong.

Im a 48 year old man. I've been through the chicken little sky is falling stuff before...several times, in fact. 30 year oil reserves, collapsed farming, global cooling, global warming, acid rain, ozone layer depletion, more numerous and powerful hurricanes, etc.

Save your deification of climate "scientists" for someone you can frighten.

 

[MontyPython]

Im a 48 year old man. I've been through the chicken little sky is falling stuff before...several times, in fact. 30 year oil reserves, collapsed farming, global cooling, global warming, acid rain, ozone layer depletion, more numerous and powerful hurricanes, etc.

Save your deification of climate "scientists" for someone you can frighten.

Heh. Well, I'm a 50 year old man, and I try to listen when 97% of scientists agree on something. 73% of Americans share my opinion. Once our Idiot-in-Chief gets the boot in 2020, hopefully we'll begin addressing this issue again seriously.

You're a smart guy. Why risk it? What if you're wrong? Surely, you know the consequences.

 

[McDad]

Heh. Well, I'm a 50 year old man, and I try to listen when 97% of scientists agree on something. 73% of Americans share my opinion. Once our Idiot-in-Chief gets the boot in 2020, hopefully we'll begin addressing this issue again seriously.

You're a smart guy. Why risk it? What if you're wrong? Surely, you know the consequences.

A man of your advanced age should know better.

...and, I am never wrong. But don't ask my wife about that.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Seriously. We are already paying. The average price of a car is significantly higher due to all the restricted devices, sensors, etc.
the trucking business is worse. And it significantly affects the reliability and down time of these vehicles. And that is just one industry.

Our tax dollars spent billions on scrubbers for coal fired plants and now those plants are closing. Money flushed. Literally billions of dollars.

The fact is we are paying and they are not. They do what they want and as a result are moving past ya in the global economy.

The dims are running on ACC being an issue. If they identify an issue, they will need massive amounts of new funding (read taxes from the non-net zero taxpayer) to pay for their drummed up issues. Micky is just playing stupid cause thats what he does when he looses an argument.

 

[hog88]

Heh. Well, I'm a 50 year old man, and I try to listen when 97% of scientists agree on something. 73% of Americans share my opinion. Once our Idiot-in-Chief gets the boot in 2020, hopefully we'll begin addressing this issue again seriously.

You're a smart guy. Why risk it? What if you're wrong? Surely, you know the consequences.

And what actions do you suggest we take?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Heh. Well, I'm a 50 year old man, and I try to listen when 97% of scientists agree on something. 73% of Americans share my opinion. Once our Idiot-in-Chief gets the boot in 2020, hopefully we'll begin addressing this issue again seriously.

You're a smart guy. Why risk it? What if you're wrong? Surely, you know the consequences.

You should go to China and to the other outrageous ( I don't give a sh!t about climate change) countries who don't follow the rules that your loony left-wing getting rich scientists have laid down before us and preach this tripe to. Go ahead & tell them all about what kind of pollution that they are causing to the climate I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms & will bend over backwards just to please your fake outrage rant. But go ahead & bash America & Trump for all the world's problems on this topic.

 

[tennvols77]

Find me the people who gain nothing, and I mean nothing, not a dollar, not a grant, nothing from their "research" into the man made temperature theater who offer actual solutions......

 

[BigOrangeD]

Find me the people who gain nothing, and I mean nothing, not a dollar, not a grant, nothing from their "research" into the man made temperature theater who offer actual solutions......

Agree. Just another way to fund DIM scams.

 

[MontyPython]

You should go to China and to the other outrageous ( I don't give a sh!t about climate change) countries who don't follow the rules that your loony left-wing getting rich scientists have laid down before us and preach this tripe to. Go ahead & tell them all about what kind of pollution that they are causing to the climate I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms & will bend over backwards just to please your fake outrage rant. But go ahead & bash America & Trump for all the world's problems on this topic.

You raise a valid point. China, in particular, produces twice as much CO2 as the US. And they have a long history of ignoring environmental concerns.

Obviously, tackling this issue requires international cooperation. No easy task. But, to suggest we are powerless to do anything is not true. Everyday we make consumer decisions that affect businesses and, in this case, polluters. China doesn't want to curb CO2 production? If I don't like that, I can choose not to buy stuff from there. Given that China is hugely dependent on the US to purchase their goods, this would have an effect.

Nothing is immediate. This is a long term problem that needs a long term solution and patience. Sticking our heads in the sand, denying reality and/or claiming we're powerless are all cop-outs. A combination of carrots and sticks hopefully gets us going in the right direction.

 

[hog88]

You raise a valid point. China, in particular, produces twice as much CO2 as the US. And they have a long history of ignoring environmental concerns.

Obviously, tackling this issue requires international cooperation. No easy task. But, to suggest we are powerless to do anything is not true. Everyday we make consumer decisions that affect businesses and, in this case, polluters. China doesn't want to curb CO2 production? If I don't like that, I can choose not to buy stuff from there. Given that China is hugely dependent on the US to purchase their goods, this would have an effect.

Nothing is immediate. This is a long term problem that needs a long term solution and patience. Sticking our heads in the sand, denying reality and/or claiming we're powerless are all cop-outs. A combination of carrots and sticks hopefully gets us going in the right direction.

You are the one sticking your head in the sand and denying reality.

 

[MontyPython]

You are the one sticking your head in the sand and denying reality.

Heh. Which reality is that... "alternate reality"?

*sigh*

Kelly Ann Conway... gonna miss her for the entertainment value.

 

[0nelilreb]

Commercial fishermen relied on the same mantra regarding cod, haddock and other fish species in New England 25 years ago. They basically said that "overfishing" was a myth, and that mankind was incapable of harming the environment. As history has proven, they were wrong. Very wrong. Cod populations have still yet to recover from what we did to them.

Just as our oceans are vulnerable, so too is the air we breathe.

100 million metric tons of CO2 pumped yearly into our atmosphere which is only 10 miles thick. You do the math. It affects our planet. 97% of climate scientists aren't wrong.

18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year - AEI

 

[BigOrangeD]

18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year - AEI

They are definitely full of it. Hysteria that is. I'm sure they are all leftist as well.

 

[0nelilreb]

They are definitely full of it. Hysteria that is. I'm sure they are all leftist as well.

I’m 51 and have learned over the years not to put my full trust into any group or organization that can claim something is true or false and make large sums of money from that claim ....

Follow the (Climate Change) Money

 

[MontyPython]

18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year - AEI

American Enterprise Institute huh?

You wanna talk about lobbyists with an axe to grind. Exxon-Mobil's mouthpiece, dude.

"I am a scientist. Burning massive amounts of fossil fuels is GOOD for our environment." Where's my check?

Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.
Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered.

The UN report was written by international experts and is widely regarded as the most comprehensive review yet of climate change science. It will underpin international negotiations on new emissions targets to succeed the Kyoto agreement, the first phase of which expires in 2012. World governments were given a draft last year and invited to comment.
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The AEI has received more than $1.6m from ExxonMobil and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush administration. Lee Raymond, a former head of ExxonMobil, is the vice-chairman of AEI's board of trustees.

 

[0nelilreb]

American Enterprise Institute huh?

You wanna talk about lobbyists with an axe to grind. Exxon-Mobil's mouthpiece, dude.

Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.
Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered.

The UN report was written by international experts and is widely regarded as the most comprehensive review yet of climate change science. It will underpin international negotiations on new emissions targets to succeed the Kyoto agreement, the first phase of which expires in 2012. World governments were given a draft last year and invited to comment.
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The AEI has received more than $1.6m from ExxonMobil and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush administration. Lee Raymond, a former head of ExxonMobil, is the vice-chairman of AEI's board of trustees.

How many of those predictions came true ?

 

[BigOrangeD]

American Enterprise Institute huh?

You wanna talk about lobbyists with an axe to grind. Exxon-Mobil's mouthpiece, dude.

"I am a scientist. Burning massive amounts of fossil fuels is GOOD for our environment." Where's my check?

Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.
Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered.

The UN report was written by international experts and is widely regarded as the most comprehensive review yet of climate change science. It will underpin international negotiations on new emissions targets to succeed the Kyoto agreement, the first phase of which expires in 2012. World governments were given a draft last year and invited to comment.
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The AEI has received more than $1.6m from ExxonMobil and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush administration. Lee Raymond, a former head of ExxonMobil, is the vice-chairman of AEI's board of trustees.

The truth has to be funded somehow to combat all the Global Alarmists lies.

 

[hog88]

Heh. Which reality is that... "alternate reality"?

*sigh*

Kelly Ann Conway... gonna miss her for the entertainment value.

The reality that warming cannot be stopped. It's a waste of money studying how to try.

 

[Roustabout]

Commercial fishermen relied on the same mantra regarding cod, haddock and other fish species in New England 25 years ago. They basically said that "overfishing" was a myth, and that mankind was incapable of harming the environment. As history has proven, they were wrong. Very wrong. Cod populations have still yet to recover from what we did to them.

Just as our oceans are vulnerable, so too is the air we breathe.

100 million metric tons of CO2 pumped yearly into our atmosphere which is only 10 miles thick. You do the math. It affects our planet. 97% of climate scientists aren't wrong.

That’s a non sequitur.

 

[MontyPython]

A Glacier the Size of Florida Is Becoming Unstable. It Has Dire Implications for Global Sea Levels