Climate Change Report

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

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A Glacier the Size of Florida Is Becoming Unstable. It Has Dire Implications for Global Sea Levels

Better move to North Dakota or Canada then so you want be affected by the cold water off the East coast.

 

[Mick]

Better move to North Dakota or Canada then so you want be affected by the cold water off of the East coast.

*won't

NB4 '72.

 

[McDad]

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A Glacier the Size of Florida Is Becoming Unstable. It Has Dire Implications for Global Sea Levels

Love the bolded (by me) portions:
The study found that even if no further climate change happens in the future, more Antarctic ice sheets are likely to become unstable. It also states that as destabilization of glaciers in Antarctica continues, it’s increasingly likely that sea levels will rise more rapidly.
That’s a 3 percent contribution that wasn’t there 45 years ago,” Larter tells TIME. He says all of the ice in Thwaites glacier could increase the global sea level by a bit more than two feet. “If you have collapsed a whole glacial system then you’re creating a new front on the other glacial systems that were bordered to it. Things certainly won’t stop there,” Larter added.

Sea levels are currently rising at a rate of 3.3 millimeters per year, and have risen by 91 millimeters since 1993, according to NASA.

 

[0nelilreb]

Love the bolded (by me) portions:
The study found that even if no further climate change happens in the future, more Antarctic ice sheets are likely to become unstable. It also states that as destabilization of glaciers in Antarctica continues, it’s increasingly likely that sea levels will rise more rapidly.
That’s a 3 percent contribution that wasn’t there 45 years ago,” Larter tells TIME. He says all of the ice in Thwaites glacier could increase the global sea level by a bit more than two feet. “If you have collapsed a whole glacial system then you’re creating a new front on the other glacial systems that were bordered to it. Things certainly won’t stop there,” Larter added.

Sea levels are currently rising at a rate of 3.3 millimeters per year, and have risen by 91 millimeters since 1993, according to NASA.

Did I do the math right ? Sea levels have risen 3.5 ish inches in the last 26 years ?

 

[McDad]

Did I do the math right ? Sea levels have risen 3.5 ish inches in the last 26 years ?

10 millimeters per centimeter. 2.54 centimeters per inch. 91÷10 = 9.1 cm. 9.1 ÷ 2.54 = 3.5 in.

You are correct.

About 1 in per decade over last 30 yrs. Im totally scared.

 

[MontyPython]

Better move to North Dakota or Canada then so you want be affected by the cold water off the East coast.

Heh. So, in reality, this is a potential problem that can affect everyone. The ocean 'conveyor belts' may reverse, which would have worldwide effects.

 

[MontyPython]

Love the bolded (by me) portions:
The study found that even if no further climate change happens in the future, more Antarctic ice sheets are likely to become unstable. It also states that as destabilization of glaciers in Antarctica continues, it’s increasingly likely that sea levels will rise more rapidly.
That’s a 3 percent contribution that wasn’t there 45 years ago,” Larter tells TIME. He says all of the ice in Thwaites glacier could increase the global sea level by a bit more than two feet. “If you have collapsed a whole glacial system then you’re creating a new front on the other glacial systems that were bordered to it. Things certainly won’t stop there,” Larter added.

Sea levels are currently rising at a rate of 3.3 millimeters per year, and have risen by 91 millimeters since 1993, according to NASA.

This is a problem. A large influx of fresh water into the oceans can affect everyone.

 

[0nelilreb]

Heh. So, in reality, this is a potential problem that can affect everyone. The ocean 'conveyor belts' may reverse, which would have worldwide effects.

“ May “

 

[McDad]

This is a problem. A large influx of fresh water into the oceans can affect everyone.

I pee in the ocean to help increase salinity.

May I caution you about worrying about the large influx of freshwater? The percent change relative to volume of water in the oceans is calculable. And, the article references the 3.5 in rise AND a 2 feet projection. Once those volumes are calculated, and the ratios figured, we will be talking about very small amounts (relatively speaking) for the phrase "large influx".

 

[McDad]

Heh. So, in reality, this is a potential problem that can affect everyone. The ocean 'conveyor belts' may reverse, which would have worldwide effects.

Have they ever reversed in Earth's history?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Heh. So, in reality, this is a potential problem that can affect everyone. The ocean 'conveyor belts' may reverse, which would have worldwide effects.

Let nature do it's thing.......it'll be another 1,000 years or so before Key West has water 2-3 more inches.
..........and we won't be around to give a sh!t then.

 

[McDad]

“ May “

Is there any other scientific discipline given such latitude as climate science? If "mays", "likelys", and "possiblys" are allowed, is it really science?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[0nelilreb]

Those wild and crazy Fins, what will they come up with next ? Lol

 

[Orangeburst]

Let me get this straight. I keep hearing concern about Arctic glaciers which are obviously seaborne so their melting would have no effect on sea level. Only land based glaciers would cause sea level rise so what percentage of worlds glaciers are on land?

 

[Wafflestomper]

Is there any other scientific discipline given such latitude as climate science? If "mays", "likelys", and "possiblys" are allowed, is it really science?

Science is largely based on inductive inference...so, yeah.

 

[0nelilreb]

Science is largely based on inductive inference...so, yeah.

 

[82_VOL_83]

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A Glacier the Size of Florida Is Becoming Unstable. It Has Dire Implications for Global Sea Levels

What will it raise sea levels, .01 mm? Yes, calling BS on the 2 feet.

Just a quick calc shows the glacier would have to be 4200 feet thick over it's entire area.

 

[Orangeburst]

What will it raise sea levels, .01 mm? Yes, calling BS on the 2 feet.

Just a quick calc shows the glacier would have to be 4200 feet thick over it's entire area.

And it matters if it is in land or water. Displacement is same for ice and water when floating on water

 

[Wafflestomper]

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I'm not sure what your point is--that science often leads to conclusions that are uncertain? That's hardly earth shattering news.

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm not sure what your point is--that science often leads to conclusions that are uncertain? That's hardly earth shattering news.

My point is that we should be careful with conclusions based on guesses and assumptions when declaring to the world ... if we don’t do something now ... blah blah blah death and destruction in 12 years or that the oceans conveyor belt may start running in reverse , or all we need to do is contribute just 10 billion more so we can study what may happen if too much fresh water from California runs off into the pacific .

 

[82_VOL_83]

And it matters if it is in land or water. Displacement is same for ice and water when floating on water

Correct, I should have said 4200 feet above water level. Since warm water is creating a "cavity" underneath it, I just assumed it wasn't floating.

 

[Orangeburst]

Correct, I should have said 4200 feet above water level. Since warm water is creating a "cavity" underneath it, I just assumed it wasn't floating.

I guess my point is if it is on water and melts it will not cause any rise. Put ice cubes in water and after they melt water level is same

 

[MontyPython]

Have they ever reversed in Earth's history?

It appears to have happened 20,000 years ago. IIRC it's hypothesized to have happened commonly. But, that doesn't make it any less of a problem. The effects on the climate would be crazy. Not necessarily life threatening, per se, but ocean productivity would change locally and regionally, and the weather would be changed from region to region.

 

[MontyPython]

Is there any other scientific discipline given such latitude as climate science? If "mays", "likelys", and "possiblys" are allowed, is it really science?

That's the basis of science, isn't it? What's the point of studying something, if everything is already known about it as established 'fact'?

Meterorologists use 'likely' and 'possibly' as standard protocol for stuff that is predicted to happen in a matter of hours.