Climate Change Report

[Roustabout]

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-08/documents/climate_indicators_2016.pdf
U.S. and Global Temperature. Average temperatures have risen across the contiguous 48 states since 1901. Average global temperatures show a similar trend, and all of the top 10 warmest years on record worldwide have occurred since 1998. Within the United States, temperatures in parts of the North, the West, and Alaska have increased the most. High and Low Temperatures. Nationwide, unusually hot summer days (highs) have become more common over the last few decades. Unusually hot summer nights (lows) have become more common at an even faster rate. This trend indicates less “cooling off” at night. Although the United States has experienced many winters with unusually low temperatures, unusually cold winter temperatures have become less common—particularly very cold nights (lows). U.S. and Global Precipitation. Total annual precipitation has increased over land areas in the United States and worldwide. Since 1901, precipitation has increased at an average rate of 0.08 inches per decade over land areas worldwide. However, shifting weather patterns have caused certain areas, such as the Southwest, to experience less precipitation than usual. Heavy Precipitation. In recent years, a higher percentage of precipitation in the United States has come in the form of intense single-day events. The prevalence of extreme single-day precipitation events remained fairly steady between 1910 and the 1980s but has risen substantially since then. Nationwide, nine of the top 10 years for extreme one-day precipitation events have occurred since 1990.
Tropical Cyclone Activity. Tropical storm activity in the Atlantic Ocean, the Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico has increased during the past 20 years. Storm intensity is closely related to variations in sea surface temperature in the tropical Atlantic. However, changes in observation methods over time make it difficult to know for sure whether a longer-term increase in storm activity has occurred. River Flooding. Increases and decreases in the frequency and magnitude of river flood events vary by region. Floods have generally become larger across parts of the Northeast and Midwest and smaller in the West, southern Appalachia, and northern Michigan. Large floods have become more frequent across the Northeast, Pacific Northwest, and parts of the northern Great Plains, and less frequent in the Southwest and the Rockies. Drought. Over the period from 2000 through 2015, roughly 20 to 70 percent of the U.S. land area experienced conditions that were at least abnormally dry at any given time. However, this index has not been in use for long enough to compare with historical drought patterns. A Closer Look: Temperature and Drought in the Southwest. The southwestern United States is particularly sensitive to changes in temperature and thus vulnerable to drought, as even a small decrease in water availability in this already arid region can stress natural systems and further threaten water supplies

Earth is how old?
And we have been recording temps how long?

You ignored all the info about solar impact of earth temps. The earth has gone through similar heat events in the past as well as cooling, which obviously had nothing to do with man and likely nothing to do with co2.

 

[luthervol]

The same generation that eats tide pods?

I'm not sure that Tide pods were around then.

 

[Mick]

Earth is how old?
And we have been recording temps how long?

You ignored all the info about solar impact of earth temps. The earth has gone through similar heat events in the past as well as cooling, which obviously had nothing to do with man and likely nothing to do with co2.

And does that disprove manmade climate change science. NOPE. I hope you do realize that the earth has been recording climate before humans ever existed and the same scientific methodology is used to conclude that man made climate change is real. Disprove their science if you can. Oh, you can't. Your ignorance and idiocy are on full display.

 

[McDad]

Our atmosphere is like a closed car garage and the car is the earth. Start that car up and see how long you survive.

Lol.

That's a turribull analogy.

 

[Mick]

Lol.

That's a turribull analogy.

I thought it was pretty good. Do you have a better one?

 

[Roustabout]

And does that disprove manmade climate change science. NOPE. I hope you do realize that the earth has been recording climate before humans ever existed and the same scientific methodology is used to conclude that man made climate change is real. Disprove their science if you can. Oh, you can't. Your ignorance and idiocy are on full display.

I’m well read on the carbon cycle.
There are indirect methods for guessing at temps prior to recording methods but they are educated guesses. There is no way to directly measure past temp. That sir is a fact. Did you know we can’t even definitively say that 32 degrees is freezing point for water because of all the other factors involved.

The other fact is that you haven’t addressed the solar cycle or solar orbit.

Lastly, even if CO2 emission could dramatically impact temps, this has become a political tool to control commerce and policy. The US and others are playing under one set of rules while others (China) are not.

 

[Mick]

I’m well read on the carbon cycle.
There are indirect methods for guessing at temps prior to recording methods but they are educated guesses. There is no way to directly measure past temp. That sir is a fact. Did you know we can’t even definitively say that 32 degrees is freezing point for water because of all the other factors involved.
The other fact is that you haven’t addressed the solar cycle or solar orbit.
Lastly, even if CO2 emission could dramatically impact temps, this has become a political tool to control commerce and policy. The US and others are playing under one set of rules while others (China) are not.

There are no other factors involved in freezing water. There is only one variable that can easily be controlled, temperature. You're not even versed in the scientific method.

What is to addressed about the solar cycle, earth wobble or solar orbit that can be measured by core samples that can disprove the science of the post industrialization measurements of the effects of carbon on the atmosphere?

 

[1972 Grad]

The same generation that eats tide pods?

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of my generation mainlined Tide products.

 

[Roustabout]

There are no other factors involved in freezing water. There is only one variable that can easily be controlled, temperature. You're not even versed in the scientific method.

What is to addressed about the solar cycle, earth wobble or solar orbit that can be measured by core samples that can disprove the science of the post industrialization measurements of the effects of carbon on the atmosphere?

So, your response is not to address what I said but insult me.

 

[Mick]

So, your response is not to address what I said but insult me.

If you saw that as an insult, this is not the place for you. If you want to articulated why the solar cycle refutes the effects of carbon on the atmosphere, I'll listen.

The sun's impact on the climate is a matter of current debate, especially as regards the less-than-expected global warming of the past 15 years. There is still a lot of uncertainty as to how the sun affects the climate, but the study suggests that direct solar energy is not the most important factor, but rather indirect effects on atmospheric circulation.

Sun's activity influences natural climate change, ice age study shows

The Carbon Cycle

 

[McDad]

I thought it was pretty good. Do you have a better one?

Forecast predicts: 100% chance I have a better analogy.

 

[Mick]

Forecast predicts: 100% chance I have a better analogy.

Are you using the European model or just the McForecast?

 

[McDad]

Are you using the European model or just the McForecast?

Swimsuit model.

 

[1972 Grad]

Swimsuit model.

Time for someone to post a picture of a fat, hairy Eastern European man in a speedo.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

France heat waves leave nearly 1,500 dead, health minister says

 

[0nelilreb]

France heat waves leave nearly 1,500 dead, health minister says

Does this mean socialized medicine and health care for all is or isn’t working ?

 

[C-south]

It's a big garage. If its bad on a small scale you have to apply that to the large scale.

Except it would be more like lighting a cigarette in a garage instead of starting a car.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Ship with Climate Change Warriors caught in ice, Warriors evacuated

 

[AM64]

Our atmosphere is like a closed car garage and the car is the earth. Start that car up and see how long you survive.

Gravity sucks. But without it ...

 

[Mick]

Gravity sucks. But without it ...

Explain, Gravity is great. There will be gravity without an atmosphere or humans or the sun.

 

[AM64]

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-08/documents/climate_indicators_2016.pdf
U.S. and Global Temperature. Average temperatures have risen across the contiguous 48 states since 1901. Average global temperatures show a similar trend, and all of the top 10 warmest years on record worldwide have occurred since 1998. Within the United States, temperatures in parts of the North, the West, and Alaska have increased the most. High and Low Temperatures. Nationwide, unusually hot summer days (highs) have become more common over the last few decades. Unusually hot summer nights (lows) have become more common at an even faster rate. This trend indicates less “cooling off” at night. Although the United States has experienced many winters with unusually low temperatures, unusually cold winter temperatures have become less common—particularly very cold nights (lows). U.S. and Global Precipitation. Total annual precipitation has increased over land areas in the United States and worldwide. Since 1901, precipitation has increased at an average rate of 0.08 inches per decade over land areas worldwide. However, shifting weather patterns have caused certain areas, such as the Southwest, to experience less precipitation than usual. Heavy Precipitation. In recent years, a higher percentage of precipitation in the United States has come in the form of intense single-day events. The prevalence of extreme single-day precipitation events remained fairly steady between 1910 and the 1980s but has risen substantially since then. Nationwide, nine of the top 10 years for extreme one-day precipitation events have occurred since 1990.
Tropical Cyclone Activity. Tropical storm activity in the Atlantic Ocean, the Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico has increased during the past 20 years. Storm intensity is closely related to variations in sea surface temperature in the tropical Atlantic. However, changes in observation methods over time make it difficult to know for sure whether a longer-term increase in storm activity has occurred. River Flooding. Increases and decreases in the frequency and magnitude of river flood events vary by region. Floods have generally become larger across parts of the Northeast and Midwest and smaller in the West, southern Appalachia, and northern Michigan. Large floods have become more frequent across the Northeast, Pacific Northwest, and parts of the northern Great Plains, and less frequent in the Southwest and the Rockies. Drought. Over the period from 2000 through 2015, roughly 20 to 70 percent of the U.S. land area experienced conditions that were at least abnormally dry at any given time. However, this index has not been in use for long enough to compare with historical drought patterns. A Closer Look: Temperature and Drought in the Southwest. The southwestern United States is particularly sensitive to changes in temperature and thus vulnerable to drought, as even a small decrease in water availability in this already arid region can stress natural systems and further threaten water supplies

Boundary conditions, Mick, boundary conditions. Statistics to prove a point are always about boundary conditions ... like cherry picking a starting point.

 

[AM64]

Explain, Gravity is great. There will be gravity without an atmosphere or humans or the sun.

Exactly, but gravity is the very thing that keeps pollutants in the atmosphere, but we couldn't live without it. Same with the sun; a little wobble, tilt, or eccentricity in orbits and it can overheat us, but we can't live without it.

 

[Mick]

Boundary conditions, Mick, boundary conditions. Statistics to prove a point are always about boundary conditions ... like cherry picking a starting point.

What do you see as a constraint to the methodology?

 

[AM64]

I thought it was pretty good. Do you have a better one?

Consider mouse farts rather than the car in the closed garage. Scale is important.

 

[Mick]

Exactly, but gravity is the very thing that keeps pollutants in the atmosphere, but we couldn't live without it. Same with the sun; a little wobble, tilt, or eccentricity in orbits and it can overheat us, but we can't live without it.

Is there a Spaceballs solution?