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Small definitely has wiggle imo but I do agree that he’s not the biggest or fastest. So yeah he’s not “wowing” anyone but he’s still pretty effective.

He made a couple DBs miss in the open field last year. That's easier to do, though, when the safety comes in out of control. Is he truly elusive, though? Ehh, I don't know. I think the sample size is too small in that area. I feel like there were a couple of plays where he took contact impulsively, instead of trying to go around defenders. Maybe with more experience, he'll show the judgment or the confidence to try to make more guys miss. Going from HS to college, a lot of guys make bad decisions---either trying to bounce/reverse everything, or trying to run over tacklers, because they're used to having their way with inferior players. Regardless of how people feel about his ceiling/effectiveness, I still hope we all get to see him have a productive year.
 
He's not big, not fast, and hasn't shown much wiggle in the open field. Combine the fact that he doesn't excel at pass protection or staying in games, what is there to be ecstatic about? If you put him on any other team, this fan base wouldn't even know who he was.

I appreciate that he works hard and represents the program well, but based on measurables, he's just not a 'wow' guy. He can be serviceable to good, but he's not shown to be elite in any category. Considering what the rest of the league's starters look like, and what Tennessee's former RBs have done, it's really not hard to see why fans would like to see more explosiveness in the RB room.

You really are a poo poo bear
 
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You spent a lot of time to show (in the meat of your paragraphs) that Small is in fact an above avg running back who enjoyed the same bump in stats that every running back experiences, every season. Yet conclude with a statement contradictory to the stats you’ve procured. Furthermore, the Doak Walker watch list sees “he played well, has a potential to have a great season”. So how about you just table your stance until November. Because you’re just coming off as a troll right now..

This is one of the dumbest posts I can recall, and I've seen a lot of silly posts on this board. (this is my 2nd account going back to 2009) I'm a troll, because I can put my orange-tinted glasses on the nightstand?

If you want to debate people's numbers, then supply something that shows some intelligence. Well, I don't like your opinion, man, so I'll just put words in your mouth and say things you didn't say and shut up, cuz you're a troll.

Just mute me, because I'm not interested in that kind of childishness.
 
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This is one of the dumbest posts I can recall, and I've seen a lot of silly posts on this board. (this is my 2nd account going back to 2009) I'm a troll, because I can put my orange-tinted glasses on the nightstand?

If you want to debate people's numbers, then supply something that shows some intelligence. Well, I don't like your opinion, man, so I'll just put words in your mouth and say things you didn't say and shut up, cuz you're a troll.

Just mute me, because I'm not interested in that kind of childishness.
Resorting to insulting my intelligence really bolsters your credence. You’re coming off as a troll because so far half of your 20 posts have been about explaining why Jabari Small isn’t a good running back. No one here is saying he’s elite. The whole point is he’s a good running back who’s likely in for a good season, but another vet for depth wouldn’t be bad. His season in 2021 was already better than JKs best season, and John Kelly was “good”, enough to be drafted.
 
I've never met him, but he's consistently shorter than teammates who are listed with similar heights, which strongly suggests, as others have noted that's he's not really 5'11 (more like 5'9ish). Ultimately, production matters more than anything, but having less height and shorter arms could explain why he can't see or block pass rushers better. If you're a 5'8 bowling ball with wheels, height is moot, but Small isn't exactly MJD.

As for your stats argument, that'd be fairly clever if they existed in a vacuum. Since I own a computer, I can look up other stats and see Tiyon Evans averaged 6.5 YPC in the same offense, and he didn't benefit from playing in the Kroger Bowl (which would've lifted him over the 7.0 mark). Hell, if Tiyon had Jabari's work ethic, he might've averaged 8.0 YPC in this offense. But his season is also hard to really break down (injuries, work ethic, inconsistent performances) --Anyway, looking at Small's entire season, there's only 2 carries over 30 yards in the entire season (140 total carries). That's a big red flag, shoulder injury or not. If 30 yards is considered an explosive splash play, that's 1.42% of the time. That means there's a 98.58% chance that Small's not going to give you an explosive chunk play.

I wanted to see how the '21 Vols compared with the '19 Knights (pre-Covid, pre-player opt-outs). Here's Heup's 2019 offense from that season. These backs also split carries, but their averages well-surpass Small's numbers. You could try to pivot and say, "Blah, blah, weaker conference," but explosive offenses will often continue to produce video game numbers, even after jumping conferences (better talent, unfamiliarity for the defense, evolution of the playbook).

Small's 5.7 average is greatly inflated by 4-5 games against Swiss cheese defenses (Kentucky, Vandy, Purdue, et cetera). That's not a criticism, it's just a fact, which makes it difficult to project what he can do in a full season against better competition. I looked at all the individual game lines, and maybe the Ole Miss game is the truest indicator. *shrug* (21-for-92 yards, long of 26 for a 4.4 YPC average & 1 TD) Like people have been saying---those numbers are solid/serviceable, but not going to wow you. His numbers against UGA/Bama were bad, but so was everyone else's. I'm not going to hold that against him. Overall, he's got an incomplete career with a lot of question marks. Unless he makes a big leap, he'll continue to be serviceable/good, but not elite in any one area.


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You obviously have some problems understanding stats. So you say that Smalls numbers are inflated by playing Swiss cheese defenses. Wanna talk about Swiss cheese? Against TN freaking tech, Evans rushed 15 times for 41 yards for a whopping 2.7 YPC. In the BG game their stats were very similar. Small out rushed Evans in the UF game.

Evans- 11 rush for 50 for 4.5 YPC
Small- 11 rush for 59 for 5.4 YPC

Now let’s address more Swiss cheese defenses. Evans made his bones so to speak in the Missouri game. He looked great no doubt. Evans went 15 for 156 for a 10.4 YPC. Great game. Let’s look at Small in that game. He went 3 for 38 with a 12.7 YPC. If given the same amount of carries, Small would have had 190 rushing yards. And let’s not forget that Missouri had the 124th ranked defense. So Swiss cheese. Kentucky had a better rush defense than South Carolina did.

Evans is bigger and a little faster I will give you that. But acting like Small is some kind of inferior back is just factually incorrect.
 
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Maybe, or maybe he'll keep taking awkward hits and he'll have another asterisk of a season. Hopefully he'll keep his jersey clean enough that we see 160 carries and >950 yards. "Not just Vol fans"---c'mon, man. ;) Unless you're a degenerate gambler or an SEC pundit who needs Tennessee eyeballs, Jabari Small is not on your radar. In a league of stars and future draft picks, a 3rd place division finisher's 2nd best tailback wasn't getting any pub last year.
When I say "not just Vols fans", I'm referring to experts' preseason positional rankings. You know, the ones that list Jabari as a top 5 SEC RB this season. My point is that these people aren't wearing orange tinted glasses. They predict a big season for a healthy Jabari Small.
 
I've never met him, but he's consistently shorter than teammates who are listed with similar heights, which strongly suggests, as others have noted that's he's not really 5'11 (more like 5'9ish). Ultimately, production matters more than anything, but having less height and shorter arms could explain why he can't see or block pass rushers better. If you're a 5'8 bowling ball with wheels, height is moot, but Small isn't exactly MJD.

As for your stats argument, that'd be fairly clever if they existed in a vacuum. Since I own a computer, I can look up other stats and see Tiyon Evans averaged 6.5 YPC in the same offense, and he didn't benefit from playing in the Kroger Bowl (which would've lifted him over the 7.0 mark). Hell, if Tiyon had Jabari's work ethic, he might've averaged 8.0 YPC in this offense. But his season is also hard to really break down (injuries, work ethic, inconsistent performances) --Anyway, looking at Small's entire season, there's only 2 carries over 30 yards in the entire season (140 total carries). That's a big red flag, shoulder injury or not. If 30 yards is considered an explosive splash play, that's 1.42% of the time. That means there's a 98.58% chance that Small's not going to give you an explosive chunk play.

I wanted to see how the '21 Vols compared with the '19 Knights (pre-Covid, pre-player opt-outs). Here's Heup's 2019 offense from that season. These backs also split carries, but their averages well-surpass Small's numbers. You could try to pivot and say, "Blah, blah, weaker conference," but explosive offenses will often continue to produce video game numbers, even after jumping conferences (better talent, unfamiliarity for the defense, evolution of the playbook).

Small's 5.7 average is greatly inflated by 4-5 games against Swiss cheese defenses (Kentucky, Vandy, Purdue, et cetera). That's not a criticism, it's just a fact, which makes it difficult to project what he can do in a full season against better competition. I looked at all the individual game lines, and maybe the Ole Miss game is the truest indicator. *shrug* (21-for-92 yards, long of 26 for a 4.4 YPC average & 1 TD) Like people have been saying---those numbers are solid/serviceable, but not going to wow you. His numbers against UGA/Bama were bad, but so was everyone else's. I'm not going to hold that against him. Overall, he's got an incomplete career with a lot of question marks. Unless he makes a big leap, he'll continue to be serviceable/good, but not elite in any one area.


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Those teams are Swiss cheese but you brag about the schedule UCF played…. LOL….. Tiyon averaged 2.7 ypc against Tenn Tech and did most of his heavy lifting against South Carolina and the worse run defense I had ever seen in Missouri…. Small height and weight is from the official roster so the weight is probably close to correct and height is usually rounded up so he is probably a little over 5’10….. He also runs a 4.58 40 which is not blazing but more than fast enough.
 
I've never met him, but he's consistently shorter than teammates who are listed with similar heights, which strongly suggests, as others have noted that's he's not really 5'11 (more like 5'9ish). Ultimately, production matters more than anything, but having less height and shorter arms could explain why he can't see or block pass rushers better. If you're a 5'8 bowling ball with wheels, height is moot, but Small isn't exactly MJD.

As for your stats argument, that'd be fairly clever if they existed in a vacuum. Since I own a computer, I can look up other stats and see Tiyon Evans averaged 6.5 YPC in the same offense, and he didn't benefit from playing in the Kroger Bowl (which would've lifted him over the 7.0 mark). Hell, if Tiyon had Jabari's work ethic, he might've averaged 8.0 YPC in this offense. But his season is also hard to really break down (injuries, work ethic, inconsistent performances) --Anyway, looking at Small's entire season, there's only 2 carries over 30 yards in the entire season (140 total carries). That's a big red flag, shoulder injury or not. If 30 yards is considered an explosive splash play, that's 1.42% of the time. That means there's a 98.58% chance that Small's not going to give you an explosive chunk play.

I wanted to see how the '21 Vols compared with the '19 Knights (pre-Covid, pre-player opt-outs). Here's Heup's 2019 offense from that season. These backs also split carries, but their averages well-surpass Small's numbers. You could try to pivot and say, "Blah, blah, weaker conference," but explosive offenses will often continue to produce video game numbers, even after jumping conferences (better talent, unfamiliarity for the defense, evolution of the playbook).

Small's 5.7 average is greatly inflated by 4-5 games against Swiss cheese defenses (Kentucky, Vandy, Purdue, et cetera). That's not a criticism, it's just a fact, which makes it difficult to project what he can do in a full season against better competition. I looked at all the individual game lines, and maybe the Ole Miss game is the truest indicator. *shrug* (21-for-92 yards, long of 26 for a 4.4 YPC average & 1 TD) Like people have been saying---those numbers are solid/serviceable, but not going to wow you. His numbers against UGA/Bama were bad, but so was everyone else's. I'm not going to hold that against him. Overall, he's got an incomplete career with a lot of question marks. Unless he makes a big leap, he'll continue to be serviceable/good, but not elite in any one area.


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Every back’s stats are inflated by playing cupcakes.
 
I've never met him, but he's consistently shorter than teammates who are listed with similar heights, which strongly suggests, as others have noted that's he's not really 5'11 (more like 5'9ish). Ultimately, production matters more than anything, but having less height and shorter arms could explain why he can't see or block pass rushers better. If you're a 5'8 bowling ball with wheels, height is moot, but Small isn't exactly MJD.

As for your stats argument, that'd be fairly clever if they existed in a vacuum. Since I own a computer, I can look up other stats and see Tiyon Evans averaged 6.5 YPC in the same offense, and he didn't benefit from playing in the Kroger Bowl (which would've lifted him over the 7.0 mark). Hell, if Tiyon had Jabari's work ethic, he might've averaged 8.0 YPC in this offense. But his season is also hard to really break down (injuries, work ethic, inconsistent performances) --Anyway, looking at Small's entire season, there's only 2 carries over 30 yards in the entire season (140 total carries). That's a big red flag, shoulder injury or not. If 30 yards is considered an explosive splash play, that's 1.42% of the time. That means there's a 98.58% chance that Small's not going to give you an explosive chunk play.

I wanted to see how the '21 Vols compared with the '19 Knights (pre-Covid, pre-player opt-outs). Here's Heup's 2019 offense from that season. These backs also split carries, but their averages well-surpass Small's numbers. You could try to pivot and say, "Blah, blah, weaker conference," but explosive offenses will often continue to produce video game numbers, even after jumping conferences (better talent, unfamiliarity for the defense, evolution of the playbook).

Small's 5.7 average is greatly inflated by 4-5 games against Swiss cheese defenses (Kentucky, Vandy, Purdue, et cetera). That's not a criticism, it's just a fact, which makes it difficult to project what he can do in a full season against better competition. I looked at all the individual game lines, and maybe the Ole Miss game is the truest indicator. *shrug* (21-for-92 yards, long of 26 for a 4.4 YPC average & 1 TD) Like people have been saying---those numbers are solid/serviceable, but not going to wow you. His numbers against UGA/Bama were bad, but so was everyone else's. I'm not going to hold that against him. Overall, he's got an incomplete career with a lot of question marks. Unless he makes a big leap, he'll continue to be serviceable/good, but not elite in any one area.


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I am sure that these dudes played against SEC calibre defenses every week, right?
 
This is one of the dumbest posts I can recall, and I've seen a lot of silly posts on this board. (this is my 2nd account going back to 2009) I'm a troll, because I can put my orange-tinted glasses on the nightstand?

If you want to debate people's numbers, then supply something that shows some intelligence. Well, I don't like your opinion, man, so I'll just put words in your mouth and say things you didn't say and shut up, cuz you're a troll.

Just mute me, because I'm not interested in that kind of childishness.
You are pulling your posts straight out of the nega vol handbook. Orange-tinted glasses, orange kool-aid, reading comprehension, blah, blah, blah. You might have valid points if you did not try to be so condescending to everyone you perceive as a jock sniffer.
 
I've never met him, but he's consistently shorter than teammates who are listed with similar heights, which strongly suggests, as others have noted that's he's not really 5'11 (more like 5'9ish). Ultimately, production matters more than anything, but having less height and shorter arms could explain why he can't see or block pass rushers better. If you're a 5'8 bowling ball with wheels, height is moot, but Small isn't exactly MJD.

As for your stats argument, that'd be fairly clever if they existed in a vacuum. Since I own a computer, I can look up other stats and see Tiyon Evans averaged 6.5 YPC in the same offense, and he didn't benefit from playing in the Kroger Bowl (which would've lifted him over the 7.0 mark). Hell, if Tiyon had Jabari's work ethic, he might've averaged 8.0 YPC in this offense. But his season is also hard to really break down (injuries, work ethic, inconsistent performances) --Anyway, looking at Small's entire season, there's only 2 carries over 30 yards in the entire season (140 total carries). That's a big red flag, shoulder injury or not. If 30 yards is considered an explosive splash play, that's 1.42% of the time. That means there's a 98.58% chance that Small's not going to give you an explosive chunk play.

I wanted to see how the '21 Vols compared with the '19 Knights (pre-Covid, pre-player opt-outs). Here's Heup's 2019 offense from that season. These backs also split carries, but their averages well-surpass Small's numbers. You could try to pivot and say, "Blah, blah, weaker conference," but explosive offenses will often continue to produce video game numbers, even after jumping conferences (better talent, unfamiliarity for the defense, evolution of the playbook).

Small's 5.7 average is greatly inflated by 4-5 games against Swiss cheese defenses (Kentucky, Vandy, Purdue, et cetera). That's not a criticism, it's just a fact, which makes it difficult to project what he can do in a full season against better competition. I looked at all the individual game lines, and maybe the Ole Miss game is the truest indicator. *shrug* (21-for-92 yards, long of 26 for a 4.4 YPC average & 1 TD) Like people have been saying---those numbers are solid/serviceable, but not going to wow you. His numbers against UGA/Bama were bad, but so was everyone else's. I'm not going to hold that against him. Overall, he's got an incomplete career with a lot of question marks. Unless he makes a big leap, he'll continue to be serviceable/good, but not elite in any one area.


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If you're going to discredit Small's performance by using them 4-5 games then you have to do the same for Tiyon. Tiyon had 3 100 yard games last year against USCjr, Missouri, and Bowling Green. The highest rushing defense of those 3 was USC at #98th rank defense in the country. He can thank Missouri for not even touching him on what was basically a 90 yard sprint. It didn't matter who was carrying the ball that game, they were going to get their yards (Small also averaged 10 ypc that game). The other games he didn't even crack 50 yards. There was even one game in Tennessee Tech where he averaged 2.7yds/carry. Plus, the defenses Small went up against that you named (2 out of the 3, Vandy was terrible) weren't exactly bad run defenses like I've already proven Evans went up against. Purdue was #58 against the run (31 in total D) so they weren't great but not bad either. Kentucky however was #17 against the run (#26 in total D). Just because UT's offense was clicking on all cylinders that game doesn't mean that UK's defense was terrible.
 
Small definitely has wiggle imo but I do agree that he’s not the biggest or fastest. So yeah he’s not “wowing” anyone but he’s still pretty effective.
Think that's the point.

People are hoping for 1 all-sec WR. Same for QB or RB. Nothing wrong with that.

Nobody is crapping on Smalls. Just people building strawmen. But it really is a moot point. Hype's scheme creates RBs.

Last year was only the 2nd time in 10 years we had 2 RBs over 5.5 YPC. He also did it multiple times at UCF. Mizzou runners were great. He creates players, so really not worried regardless. Much like wr.
 
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Would've been nice to have a goal line back last year. Sure, I think it was a TD against Purdue but it shouldn't have been that close with a shifty RB in Wright running goal line. Whitehead has been struggling to stay healthy still and we need a veteran in the room past Small so this fills a need for us
 

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