Coach Muffet said the truth we been waiting for long

[VolBall09]

The POY candidate part is so spot on. Do they really have 3 other POY candidates aside from Bueckers?

Their last 4-5 games says that was a lie lmao. Felt that way every time ONO has been on any list. At any other school she’s a no name, no recognition player

 

[PG1]

Wow all of the sudden all of volnation loves some Muffin keep in mind she is still that arrogant bitter person who coached the Irish for years she is just pissed she retired and is not even close to having the success of Pat and Geno. Go away little miss Muffet stop trying to remain relevant.

 

[sisaq]

The POY candidate part is so spot on. Do they really have 3 other POY candidates aside from Bueckers?

Their last 4-5 games says that was a lie lmao. Felt that way every time ONO has been on any list. At any other school she’s a no name, no recognition player

Exactly..she even went to USA national camp

 

[sisaq]

Wow all of the sudden all of volnation loves some Muffin keep in mind she is still that arrogant bitter person who coached the Irish for years she is just pissed she retired and is not even close to having the success of Pat and Geno. Go away little miss Muffet stop trying to remain relevant.

Are u Uconn? Because they're the only ppl that won't believe her. She spilled the truth and doesn't have any gain.

 

[Bakers1]

Wow all of the sudden all of volnation loves some Muffin keep in mind she is still that arrogant bitter person who coached the Irish for years she is just pissed she retired and is not even close to having the success of Pat and Geno. Go away little miss Muffet stop trying to remain relevant.

Most likely she was contacted to be on the show to talk about a subject she knows well. she said yes...You don't even know if it was the show's idea or her idea to talk about Uconn. You find fault with that? lol I never had an issue with her. "Go away" ?????? lol Why for what reason? Because you don't like her or what she says? She spent most of her life in women's bball. She gave so much to the game. Should Catch or Holdsclaw go away? If Pat was alive and retired should she go away rather than do interviews or somehow stay part of the game??? Should all the ex coaches and players in the NBA, MLB, NFL etc go away???

Also, you don't have to care or like a person to appreciate her interview. I don't care for Geno but I do think he's a great coach. There have been players I don't care for yet I recognize their talent. I'm sure it's the same for you.

 

[Amb3096]

The POY candidate part is so spot on. Do they really have 3 other POY candidates aside from Bueckers?

Their last 4-5 games says that was a lie lmao. Felt that way every time ONO has been on any list. At any other school she’s a no name, no recognition player

Still no idea how ONO makes any national list. She wasn't even 1st team All BEast...

 

[stllvf]

PG1 to return your quote back to you your posts frequently sound as if you are "an arrogant bitter person" and "go away little miss or mr ..... and stop trying to remain relevant."

 

[PG1]

Most likely she was contacted to be on the show to talk about a subject she knows well. she said yes...You don't even know if it was the show's idea or her idea to talk about Uconn. You find fault with that? lol I never had an issue with her. "Go away" ?????? lol Why for what reason? Because you don't like her or what she says? She spent most of her life in women's bball. She gave so much to the game. Should Catch or Holdsclaw go away? If Pat was alive and retired should she go away rather than do interviews or somehow stay part of the game??? Should all the ex coaches and players in the NBA, MLB, NFL etc go away???

Also, you don't have to care or like a person to appreciate her interview. I don't care for Geno but I do think he's a great coach. There have been players I don't care for yet I recognize their talent. I'm sure it's the same for you.

So let’s change the narrative and would you feel the same if instead of uconn she said UT and instead of GA she said PS? The womens game needs its ex coaches and players building it up not taking shots at the successful coaches and players.

 

[PG1]

Are u Uconn? Because they're the only ppl that won't believe her. She spilled the truth and doesn't have any gain.

UT benefited for many many years from the media building us up and promoting the program. Like I stated to another poster if she would said the same about UT and Pat would you say damn that lady spilling the truth?

 

[VolBall09]

So let’s change the narrative and would you feel the same if instead of uconn she said UT and instead of GA she said PS? The womens game needs its ex coaches and players building it up not taking shots at the successful coaches and players.

This is an idiotic hypothetical. She wouldn’t say that because Pat never behaved like Geno. McGraw was his primary competitor for the better part of 15 years.

She knows what she’s talking about and she’s letting them have it. The days of UCONN getting a gold star for every little thing are over. People are tired of it. Lots more parity and no need to put one team with a pompous a** for a coach on a pedestal.

 

[PG1]

This is an idiotic hypothetical. She wouldn’t say that because Pat never behaved like Geno. McGraw was his primary competitor for the better part of 15 years.

She knows what she’s talking about and she’s letting them have it. The days of UCONN getting a gold star for every little thing are over. People are tired of it. Lots more parity and no need to put one team with a pompous a** for a coach on a pedestal.

You mean like what is happening with South Carolina and Dawn now and like us land Pat back in the 80’s and 90’s. Sports need dynasties and Kings and Queens to thrive in the media world. She benefited also the media built her up as the coach that can take down the mighty UConn. So none of her players were ever over hyped? Come on you are smarter than this.

 

[LasVegasBill23]

Meffet?
Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet...
(you know the rest)

Along came a spider who sat down beside her..... then the spider played for her at Notre Dame

 

[sisaq]

Most likely she was contacted to be on the show to talk about a subject she knows well. she said yes...You don't even know if it was the show's idea or her idea to talk about Uconn. You find fault with that? lol I never had an issue with her. "Go away" ?????? lol Why for what reason? Because you don't like her or what she says? She spent most of her life in women's bball. She gave so much to the game. Should Catch or Holdsclaw go away? If Pat was alive and retired should she go away rather than do interviews or somehow stay part of the game??? Should all the ex coaches and players in the NBA, MLB, NFL etc go away???

Also, you don't have to care or like a person to appreciate her interview. I don't care for Geno but I do think he's a great coach. There have been players I don't care for yet I recognize their talent. I'm sure it's the same for you.

Funny how these fake fans hide in our house and try to tell us lies. Ex NBA coaches always get interviews, like it or leave it. Everything she said is wat we already knew except that a recruit could Rank 35 and as soon as she commits to Uconn and new poll comes out she lands to 18th... That shocked me and I believe it. Soon things will be changing just like Candace spoke in an interview, National Team decided that coaches will now come only from Wnba. Look at how many Uconn in the National Team camp when Geno was there. Compare it to when Houston Comets coach Van was there. Thanks a lot Muffet and keep educating us with the Tea.

 

[Amb3096]

Yet somehow, players like Gabby Williams, Kia Nurse, Saniya Chong and Stefanie Dolson were all rated pretty low and either became AAs or WNBA players. But all because UConn recruited them, right? Also pretty sure that Amari DeBerry, Mir McLean and Saylor Poffenbarger all went down in the ESPN rankings after they committed to UConn. Guess the check didn't clear...

 

[Bakers1]

So let’s change the narrative and would you feel the same if instead of uconn she said UT and instead of GA she said PS? The womens game needs its ex coaches and players building it up not taking shots at the successful coaches and players.

First off, I wouldn't take what GA or MM said personally. If there was truth to whatever she or Geno was saying about PS then it wouldn't bother me. If there were no SIGNS of truth to it then sure it might bother me as a fan. Her comments have been somewhat backed up by many in the profession .But in no way would I think either doesn't have the right to go on some show and be interviewed. While I don't like Geno I am sure he will stay in women's basketball to some extent after he retires and it won't bother me one bit. Like I said I don't have to like him to not appreciate what he's done.

You reasoning was she was trying to be relevant -Why? Do you think that of everyone who has retired and commentates or is interviewed is just trying to be relevant or is bitter. . Should Bird stop commenting once she retires? Should Geno disappear and if not will you say the same? You said she's bitter about retiring ? Do you know this? lol

I agree people within sports should build the sport BUT I also believe there are issues that aren't so pretty in sports that need to be talked about and not ignored or you can't make the sport better.

 

[Bakers1]

Yet somehow, players like Gabby Williams, Kia Nurse, Saniya Chong and Stefanie Dolson were all rated pretty low and either became AAs or WNBA players. But all because UConn recruited them, right? Also pretty sure that Amari DeBerry, Mir McLean and Saylor Poffenbarger all went down in the ESPN rankings after they committed to UConn. Guess the check didn't clear...

You addressed one comment - In order to know if what she says happens you'd have to look at each of those recruits and start with their ranking prior to commitment or involvement with Uconn until after. I doubt she was saying all recruits. I do believe some recruits even outside of Uconn recruits that are invade with highly rated programs move up regardless if it's Uconn. Let me ask you this - Do you honestly think Uconn has 4 POY candidates? Was she off on that comment? As far as Candace goes - Do you really think she's not being truthful ?? come one with all the quotes by players coaches and reporters even NBA players and a couple NBA coaches using our logic it's clear as day. Even if not she's entitled other option based on the facts she knows and she knows more than you.

 

[mudcat1973]

She's only speaking for herself now. When she spoke as the coach at Notre Dame, she was speaking on behalf of Notre Dame basketball, and everyone who worked for the Notre Dame AD responsible for women's basketball, and her former and current players. In that role, under the relationship established between colleges and ESPN, she had to protect her people and her team's interests and future opportunities. A position like that, a lot of people depend on you, and you have to be very careful about making enemies.

But again, she's only speaking for herself now, so she can call it clean as she sees it. ESPN owns college sports right now. They bought it, and they can treat it almost literally however they want. ESPN and UConn are 50 miles apart. If you want to be in broadcasting, which is one of the more visible and obvious paths forward for former athletes looking for work, Storrs is an hour away by car. All those "visits" to Bristol, all the fawning over UConn on their TV shows, the obvious connections and potential for internships or open doors to ESPN, this is not some kind of mystery. But no one wants to piss ESPN off, because a lot of the job prospects go through ESPN. And that brings us back to McGraw, who has to think carefully when she says anything as Notre Dame's coach, lest she poison the well for her players or anyone else she's connected to professionally.

I mean, come on. How many times during Tennessee games on ESPN or ESPN2 in the past ten years have we had to hear about UConn's record, or its upcoming games, or see Geno's record compared to Pat's and VanDerveer's? How often in the past year have we had to hear about Paige Bueckers? This isn't rocket science. UConn has been the "national brand" for women's basketball and ESPN has helped reinforce that national brand because it's their product and they are gonna market that product every chance they can get. So it becomes a feedback loop, and so long as UConn doesn't start pooping their pants on the court, it'll stay that way. Well, until a certain lovable and totally charming individual decides he's ready to move on.

in 90 - 2000 i watch games on c-band satlight dish. on espn ncaa turnment games you watch with no tv breaks. and when on tv espn tv people rooted for the teams. when tv break was over they went back to fake no bias.

 

[PG1]

First off, I wouldn't take what GA or MM said personally. If there was truth to whatever she or Geno was saying about PS then it wouldn't bother me. If there were no SIGNS of truth to it then sure it might bother me as a fan. Her comments have been somewhat backed up by many in the profession .But in no way would I think either doesn't have the right to go on some show and be interviewed. While I don't like Geno I am sure he will stay in women's basketball to some extent after he retires and it won't bother me one bit. Like I said I don't have to like him to not appreciate what he's done.

You reasoning was she was trying to be relevant -Why? Do you think that of everyone who has retired and commentates or is interviewed is just trying to be relevant or is bitter. . Should Bird stop commenting once she retires? Should Geno disappear and if not will you say the same? You said she's bitter about retiring ? Do you know this? lol

I agree people within sports should build the sport BUT I also believe there are issues that aren't so pretty in sports that need to be talked about and not ignored or you can't make the sport better.

I agree with you on a lot of this but like I said when Pat built the lady Vols the media caught on and helped with the continuous coverage then UCONN dethroned us and then they became the media darling now it is SC and Dawn. ND and MM benefited so much from media coverage and scouting groups hyping players because of the ND recruiting. Want to end the BAMA football dynasty simply never put them on TV again or write a story about them. Sorry any criticism coming from Muffin about Geno or the media is true sour grapes.

 

[Bakers1]

I agree with you on a lot of this but like I said when Pat built the lady Vols the media caught on and helped with the continuous coverage then UCONN dethroned us and then they became the media darling now it is SC and Dawn. ND and MM benefited so much from media coverage and scouting groups hyping players because of the ND recruiting. Want to end the BAMA football dynasty simply never put them on TV again or write a story about them. Sorry any criticism coming from Muffin about Geno or the media is true sour grapes.

It doesn't have to be one or the other or all or nothing. Sure some what she says at times may be sour grapes as you put it. Doesn't mean it's not true. Do you really think her comments about Parker are sour grapes? Has nothing to do with ND or Muffit. She's stating her opinion and she's someone with inside knowledge. Her comments are not dissimilar to a lot of others out there. See my previous posts. Last question, do you think Uconn seriously has 4 POY candidates? Was she that wrong in her opinion?

I agree with the media and who they decide to put in spotlight. McGraw said as much about ND and NBC. She called her own school out. Being objective it's pretty obvious Uconn and ESPNs relationship are a bit more than the usual media bias which happens often outside of Uconn. Look at ESPN articles. Scroll down and continue - forget the game recaps. There are more articles about Uconn than any other program. The headlines usually have Uconn in them if it's talking about preseason awards etc. Look at Dec 14th and 15th alone. Two super long articles about the program and Paige, Show me an article that detailed about SC or another program? It's rare but common for Uconn. I'm not going to be ridiculous and post a lot of links but I've follow a lot of sports closely and there is an extreme bias. FYI - the ESPN bias doesn't bother me but it's there.

Why UConn starts at No. 1 in top 25 women's college basketball preseason rankings
UConn's Bueckers tops AP All-America team

You don't have to like what she says or think it's sour grapes but that doesn't make it untrue.

 

[Amb3096]

You addressed one comment - In order to know if what she says happens you'd have to look at each of those recruits and start with their ranking prior to commitment or involvement with Uconn until after. I doubt she was saying all recruits. I do believe some recruits even outside of Uconn recruits that are invade with highly rated programs move up regardless if it's Uconn. Let me ask you this - Do you honestly think Uconn has 4 POY candidates? Was she off on that comment? As far as Candace goes - Do you really think she's not being truthful ?? come one with all the quotes by players coaches and reporters even NBA players and a couple NBA coaches using our logic it's clear as day. Even if not she's entitled other option based on the facts she knows and she knows more than you.

I only addressed this one comment because I've already made my opinions clear about Candace and Geno's influence on the Olympic team selection. And yes...I believe that interest by a high profile program(s) does wonders for a player's rankings. Didn't Justine's ranking shoot up once she signed with UT?

I've previously said that I have no idea how ONO gets on these POY lists. But Williams as a pre-season pick? Yes, I would have put her there on a list of the preseason 50 top players in the country. #1 ranked Azzi Fudd? Sure, why not. Worked for last year's #1. Besides, that list will whittle down until you get down to the 5 that actually have a snowball's chance in hell at the award. I think what's more likely is that more well known schools get preferential treatment on the pre-season lists, and certainly Tennessee has benefitted since Horston is on the pre-season SF list even though she's had 2 fairly average seasons to date. It's doubtful she'd be on that list posting the same stats for Ole Miss.

 

[PG1]

It doesn't have to be one or the other or all or nothing. Sure some what she says at times may be sour grapes as you put it. Doesn't mean it's not true. Do you really think her comments about Parker are sour grapes? Has nothing to do with ND or Muffit. She's stating her opinion and she's someone with inside knowledge. Her comments are not dissimilar to a lot of others out there. See my previous posts. Last question, do you think Uconn seriously has 4 POY candidates? Was she that wrong in her opinion?

I agree with the media and who they decide to put in spotlight. McGraw said as much about ND and NBC. She called her own school out. Being objective it's pretty obvious Uconn and ESPNs relationship are a bit more than the usual media bias which happens often outside of Uconn. Look at ESPN articles. Scroll down and continue - forget the game recaps. There are more articles about Uconn than any other program. The headlines usually have Uconn in them if it's talking about preseason awards etc. Look at Dec 14th and 15th alone. Two super long articles about the program and Paige, Show me an article that detailed about SC or another program? It's rare but common for Uconn. I'm not going to be ridiculous and post a lot of links but I've follow a lot of sports closely and there is an extreme bias. FYI - the ESPN bias doesn't bother me but it's there.

Why UConn starts at No. 1 in top 25 women's college basketball preseason rankings
UConn's Bueckers tops AP All-America team

You don't have to like what she says or think it's sour grapes but that doesn't make it untrue.

No UCONN has no player of the year candidates now that PB will miss 90% of the season.

 

[TJVol95]

This is why Pat had an issue with Geno. He used ESPN to get Moore. Oh well. She was always right on with character.

 

[Voltopia]

This is why Pat had an issue with Geno. He used ESPN to get Moore. Oh well. She was always right on with character.

Heh, it was much more than just that. Hmm wait a minute. Much Moore than just that? Is that funny enough? I mean it sort of is. Yeah, I guess I'll go with that one - Heh, it was much Moore than just that.

 

[xtpsrh08123]

I see no lies from the muffin man

 

[mlindsay]

This threads is separating the real UT fans from the fakes and I love it! For you fakes, keep on showing your true colors.