Coaching hotseat

#27
#27
05_never_again said:
I'm surprised he hasn't been able to turn it around. He recruited his brains out at Louisville and won a BCS bowl - he went 23-3 his last 2 years there. Just too much recruiting competition in the State of Texas?
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Has to be. If you think about it there's schools in Texas that are winning that didn't until recently. Baylor, TCU, and TAMU now being in the sec can't do anything but hurt them. I'd say he's regretting making the move now.
 
#28
#28
Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
Has to be. If you think about it there's schools in Texas that are winning that didn't until recently. Baylor, TCU, and TAMU now being in the sec can't do anything but hurt them. I'd say he's regretting making the move now.
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Plus Houston and still having to battle OU and OSU for recruits
 
#30
#30
LouderVol said:
Oregon will carefully consider their replacement. They still want to be the flashy team. cant go to a pro or even a "basic" spread coach. they may have to go to lower ranks to find someone to fill that coaching niche.
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Why not lure Chip Kelly back to Eugene? He doesn't look like he is going anywhere with Blaine Gabbert as his QB.
 
#31
#31
Grand Vol said:
Stoops has to be careful or he runs the risk of becoming a Les Miles, Phil Fulmer or Mark Richt.
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I don't want to quibble but one of those three coaches had two losing seasons in four years, lost his grip on recruiting, and had so many players in the police blotter that they named an award for it in his dis-honor. The other two were good coaches who were still winning and recruiting at a high level but their unrealistic fanbases insisted that anything short of championships isn't good enough.
 
#32
#32
VolunteerHillbilly said:
I don't want to quibble but one of those three coaches had two losing seasons in four years, lost his grip on recruiting, and had so many players in the police blotter that they named an award for it in his dis-honor. The other two were good coaches who were still winning and recruiting at a high level but their unrealistic fanbases insisted that anything short of championships isn't good enough.
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I think all 3 of the coaches in that list were ultimately done in because they were perceived to be uncompetitive again their biggest rivals. Fulmer couldn't beat Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. Richt couldn't beat Florida and routinely lost "big games" against South Carolina, Alabama, etc. Les couldn't beat Alabama.

If Fulmer was somehow still managing to beat Georgia, Florida, or Alabama, I think he could have survived his 2 losing seasons. The losing seasons sucked, but what people were really embarrassed about was the pattern of blowout losses to those schools which actually started before the first losing season in 2005.
 
#33
#33
VolunteerHillbilly said:
I don't want to quibble but one of those three coaches had two losing seasons in four years, lost his grip on recruiting, and had so many players in the police blotter that they named an award for it in his dis-honor. The other two were good coaches who were still winning and recruiting at a high level but their unrealistic fanbases insisted that anything short of championships isn't good enough.
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It's still the principle. Every coach has ups and downs. Some, like Fulmer, go below .500 every so often. But make no mistake, Fulmer looked to have a good recruiting plan when he got canned. At least from what I remember he did. His biggest challenge was keeping coordinator staff around.

All in all, fan bases sometimes expect the moon, stars and glittery rainbows. But have to settle for less. And that doesn't help matters. Stoops is in danger of turning down the same path as those three and having his fan base turn on him.
 
#34
#34
give_him 6 said:
Why not lure Chip Kelly back to Eugene? He doesn't look like he is going anywhere with Blaine Gabbert as his QB.
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I never understood the Chip Kelly to the NFL allure. doesn't seem like his system works there. square peg, round hole and no one forcing it through.
 
#35
#35
So does any of these happen this year ?

Chip Kelly back to Oregon
Charlie Strong back to Lousiville
James Franklin back to Vandy
 
#37
#37
Forever151 said:
So does any of these happen this year ?

Chip Kelly back to Oregon
Charlie Strong back to Lousiville
James Franklin back to Vandy
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I don't think any of those happen but I think somebody will throw a load of money at Petrino. LSU, maybe? Texas very well could as well. So I'll say out of the 3, I'd take Strong back to Louisville.
 
#38
#38
Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
I don't think any of those happen but I think somebody will throw a load of money at Petrino. LSU, maybe? Texas very well could as well. So I'll say out of the 3, I'd take Strong back to Louisville.
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Petrino is still under a $10 million buyout timeframe. I don't think schools are going to pursue him while he is under that timeframe
 
#39
#39
Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
I don't think any of those happen but I think somebody will throw a load of money at Petrino. LSU, maybe? Texas very well could as well. So I'll say out of the 3, I'd take Strong back to Louisville.
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Don't kid yourself, Vandy would love to get Franklin back.
 
#40
#40
I think Oregon would love to have Kelly back, its just if Kelly wants to "step back" from the pro ranks.
 
#42
#42
RollinVol said:
Petrino is still under a $10 million buyout timeframe. I don't think schools are going to pursue him while he is under that timeframe
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Texas? It would be a school with money to burn if somebody did it. I didn't realize he had that type of buyout.
 
#45
#45
Herman makes $3 million a year now. If Houston joins a power 5. It jumps to 5.5 million. Does Texas make Herman the highest paid coach in the nation with the bidding war that will be going for him.
 
#46
#46
Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
I don't doubt it but I don't think he wants to come back to the SEC.
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Why not, the guy was a major success at Vandy, walked away from a $4M contract, and had figured out how to sell Nashville to recruits. He could still flutz around at Vandy and win 7-8 games a year.
 
#47
#47
Franklin is 41-29 as a HC. Would Vandy take him back even after the rape trial a few years ago? To me it seems like a cloud over his short tenure there.
 
#48
#48
give_him 6 said:
Franklin is 41-29 as a HC. Would Vandy take him back even after the rape trial a few years ago? To me it seems like a cloud over his short tenure there.
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Was just speaking with a vandy booster a little while ago. And that topic came up. He isn't a major booster. But a good size booster. He says he doesn't think so. Too many bridges were burned over all of that
 
#49
#49
Don't see Franklin going back to Vandy for reasons already mentioned but who knows these days.
 
#50
#50
508mikey said:
Franklin got the dreaded vote of confidence -- could he be going back to Vandy, nobody else would want him would they ?
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Franklin is "fools gold". I'm not sure if Vandy would take him back but I wish they would.
 
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