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#602
#602
lylsmorr said:
0% for what they did.
100% for bringing those type of characters here.
I guess if you average it out, you could say I put 50% of the blame on him.
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We agree again (though I was not going to go as high as 50%). I can’t believe he was shocked that they got in trouble.
 
#607
#607
Fair enough, but he had kept his nose clean for the first two years he was here. Claiming that Pearl should have seen this coming is a bit unfair. It's not like volnation collectively said "I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN" when the news broke.
 
#608
#608
QuickdrawMcVols said:
Fair enough, but he had kept his nose clean for the first two years he was here. Claiming that Pearl should have seen this coming is a bit unfair. It's not like volnation collectively said "I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN" when the news broke.
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The Ramar thing, he knew.
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#609
#609
QuickdrawMcVols said:
Fair enough, but he had kept his nose clean for the first two years he was here. Claiming that Pearl should have seen this coming is a bit unfair. It's not like volnation collectively said "I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN" when the news broke.
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You sure about that?

Dang the luck. They were caught with drugs and guns the very first time they used either.
 
#611
#611
Didn't you know that ramar and Tyler sold drugs together....wish they were just drunk drivers presenting a danger to everyone else on the road...they would have lots of defenders then
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#612
#612
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Didn't you know that ramar and Tyler sold drugs together....wish they were just drunk drivers presenting a danger to everyone else on the road...they would have lots of defenders then
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If you don't know of the pair's issues, even prior to their arrival at UT, you should leave this alone.
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#614
#614
BigPapaVol said:
If you don't know of the pair's issues, even prior to their arrival at UT, you should leave this alone.
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Come on, what kind of attitude is that?

I know of Ramar's issues. I dont know of Tyler's issues with Ramar. Just because I dont know, it doesnt mean I am not allowed to participate in the discussion. I apologize if I am slowing down the conversation, but please fill me in.
 
#615
#615
QuickdrawMcVols said:
Come on, what kind of attitude is that?

I know of Ramar's issues. I dont know of Tyler's issues with Ramar. Just because I dont know, it doesnt mean I am not allowed to participate in the discussion.
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I wasn't talking to you. If you know, then you can't dismiss the player issues as happenstance. It was all reasonably predictable.
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#617
#617
BigPapaVol said:
I wasn't talking to you. If you know, then you can't dismiss the player issues as happenstance. It was all reasonably predictable.
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Bpv of course I did
..you and I talked about it before Tyler got in trouble this year...just silly to act like Pearl should have known the pos gangster would recruit a kid from Pulaski
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Also Huggins was awesome just now and I hate duke with the burning fire of a thousand suns
...zoobek is a goon..
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#618
#618
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Bpv of course I did
..you and I talked about it before Tyler got in trouble this year...just silly to act like Pearl should have known the pos gangster would recruit a kid from Pulaski
..

Also Huggins was awesome just now and I hate duke with the burning fire of a thousand suns
...zoobek is a goon..
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I understood very little of this.
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#621
#621
BigPapaVol said:
I understood very little of this.
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I know Tyler had issues, but they were minor in comparison to the issues Ramar Smith had. It is also obnoxious for people to pretend that they knew that Tyler Smith was going to follow down the path towards felony charges...he was not more of a lawbreaker than any of the Green era players who stayed off the blotter until this gun incident.

Also if you were watching the NCAA semifinals, you would know what I was referring to when speaking of Huggins...
 
#622
#622
MikeHamiltonFan said:
I know Tyler had issues, but they were minor in comparison to the issues Ramar Smith had. It is also obnoxious for people to pretend that they knew that Tyler Smith was going to follow down the path towards felony charges...he was not more of a lawbreaker than any of the Green era players who stayed off the blotter until this gun incident.

Also if you were watching the NCAA semifinals, you would know what I was referring to when speaking of Huggins...
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I am and it does not make my question any less valid. One second you were calling him a drunk and the next he is awesome.
 
#623
#623
MikeHamiltonFan said:
I know Tyler had issues, but they were minor in comparison to the issues Ramar Smith had. It is also obnoxious for people to pretend that they knew that Tyler Smith was going to follow down the path towards felony charges...he was not more of a lawbreaker than any of the Green era players who stayed off the blotter until this gun incident.

Also if you were watching the NCAA semifinals, you would know what I was referring to when speaking of Huggins...
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Ramar was a given. Tyler a maybe. The others, Tabb and Crews, were iffy as well. I'm not saying there haven't been worse, just that the outcome with some of these guys was predictable.

I saw Huggins, but assumed you being sarcastic. It was a poignant moment that helps people better understand the relationships coaches have with players and what shared hardship forges.
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#625
#625
Yeesh...I now see why this site has a bad name. This thread has been beyond ridiculous.

1) It is obvious - though not 100 percent proven fact, there for everyone to see on a fully-notarized document with Knox County government letterhead - that Pearl cheated on his wife.

2) It is obvious - though not 100 percent proven fact, there for everyone to see on a fully-notarized document with NCAA letterhead - that Calipari knowingly cheated/let someone else cheat with full knowledge of it at both UMass and Memphis. And we can therefore assume with some level of confidence (though not 100 percent confidence...probably not even 75 percent confidence, to be fair) that he either has cheated/let someone else cheat with full knowledge of it or will cheat/let someone else cheat with full knowledge of it at Kentucky.

The question, then, is whether one is worse than the other. And personally speaking, I have no idea what Pearl's personal life has to do with his job. And the job he is doing is all that I care about.

As an Atlanta native (and Braves fan), I watched this happen a while back when Chipper Jones cheated on his wife. And I watched as at least half of the city turned on him. I never understood it, and I still don't understand it. What business of ours is someone else's personal life? I don't think it's any of our business. Unless their personal life blatantly interferes with them doing their job, I really don't know why it's anybody's concern except the people directly involved. If you had someone at your job constantly bringing up issues in your personal life, I'm guessing you would think it was unfair and irrelevant.

Cheating at one's job on the other hand, is different, because it directly relates to the job that they're doing. So for our purposes as college sports fans, Calipari's issues are relevant, whereas Pearl's divorce issues are not.

But in the end, if it makes you feel rational and smart to defend the man who has coached our two biggest rivals and who is incredibly unlikeable regardless (NCAA issues aside) in the name of being contrarian. I won't try to take him from you. You can have him.

And BTW, he's still an unbelievably awful gameday coach.
 
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