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#51
#51
jakez4ut said:
as much as i hate to say it, i don't know that i'd play Foster as the no. 1 right now...Hardesty and Coker have played their way in to the fold. Hardesty has more to learn....i like the way he runs, he just does it too long...he needs to make a move and go....too much of the lateral thing behind the line of scrimmage...make a cut, and go. Coker seems to have a lot better understanding of what's expected, and he can make that move and go.

I think Foster is still pretty good, but right now, i just don't know that i'd take the two that have shown the big play capability out of the mix as we head in to the meat of the schedule. Coker would be no. 1, Hardesty 2 and Foster 3 at this point.
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I disagree...I go Coker, Foster, Hardesty...if Foster is healthy, I think he brings more to the game than Hardesty. Hardesty is dancing too much right now and that will get them killed in the SEC. It's kinda ironic that everybody was saying that Coker's weakness was "between the tackles" and now he's running much harder down hill than "Fred Astaire" Hardesty.
 
#52
#52
I think Coker should get 20+ carries. Foster 7-10 carries if he is 100%. Hardesty probably wouldn't go in if the game is close.
 
#53
#53
mikey said:
I disagree...I go Coker, Foster, Hardesty...if Foster is healthy, I think he brings more to the game than Hardesty. Hardesty is dancing too much right now and that will get them killed in the SEC. It's kinda ironic that everybody was saying that Coker's weakness was "between the tackles" and now he's running much harder down hill than "Fred Astaire" Hardesty.
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i said the same thing about Hardesty above...but the thing about Foster is that he is coming off an injury, he's likely to be a bit rusty and going against UGA's D line is not exactly the best place to get healthy. but switching up Foster and Hardesty wouldn't hurt my feelings.
 
#54
#54
oklavol said:
I think Coker should get 20+ carries. Foster 7-10 carries if he is 100%. Hardesty probably wouldn't go in if the game is close.
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I agree...I think you give Coker as many as he can handle and let Foster get enough to get back in the flow.
 
#55
#55
Give it to Coker until he needs a rest. He hits the holes harder and quicker than the other 2.
 
#56
#56
You know...it's just an amazing feeling when you've been walking into the current on a subject for a year and a half and all of the sudden the the current turns and the momentum is behind you.
:) :dance2: :rock: :eek:k: :clapping: :whistling: :yahoo: :yess:
 
#57
#57
jakez4ut said:
...but the thing about Foster is that he is coming off an injury, he's likely to be a bit rusty and going against UGA's D line is not exactly the best place to get healthy. .
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One experts rust, is another's fresh legs.

I think Arian hits the ground running hard, and has a successful return. Run game benefits tremendously from Foster's return, but I hope we open up a passing attack the likes of which we haven't seen in some time...
 
#58
#58
orange+white=heaven said:
One experts rust, is another's fresh legs.

I think Arian hits the ground running hard, and has a successful return. Run game benefits tremendously from Foster's return, but I hope we open up a passing attack the likes of which we haven't seen in some time...
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ah, the glass half full....thanks. hope you're right.
 
#59
#59
Yeah, well I'm just not ready to anoint Coker yet. Fumbles against Georgia... even just one... can be momentum changers.

There was a reason Arian started the season #1. I still expect good things from Mr. Foster....
 
#60
#60
orange+white=heaven said:
Yeah, well I'm just not ready to anoint Coker yet. Fumbles against Georgia... even just one... can be momentum changers.

There was a reason Arian started the season #1. I still expect good things from Mr. Foster....
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yep...i did know that Coker didn't get more PT cause of fumbles in the off season...i think the coaches were very deliberate in putting people out there that could take care of the ball. One reason why Josh McNeil didn't start was the fumbled snaps in the off season....but when you heard coaches talking about both players, you could tell they really wanted to play them...but just weren't confident in either's ability to not lose the ball.

but at this point, we need play makers and both have played well thus far. Foster certainly won't hurt the run game....
 
#61
#61
Look for a lot of Coker and Foster on Sat. Could end up being one of those one of those great 1-2 punches they had in years past.
 
#62
#62
When Hardesty figures out how to run north and south when he takes the hand off he will be dangerous. When he gets beyond the line of scrimmage with a full head of steam he is impossible to bring down by one guy. He runs so hard and is so aggresive when he stops juking around. I still think he is very hessitant on his knee. I've had the same injury twice on one knee and it takes at least a year and a half too two to get 100% confidant on that leg. Either way when you have three fantastic backs like we do you can be patient and let someone develope a little more as needed. they will all have plenty of chances to shine. Go Vols ! Beat the Dawgs!!:rock:
 
#63
#63
jason said:
When Hardesty figures out how to run north and south when he takes the hand off he will be dangerous. When he gets beyond the line of scrimmage with a full head of steam he is impossible to bring down by one guy. He runs so hard and is so aggresive when he stops juking around. I still think he is very hessitant on his knee. I've had the same injury twice on one knee and it takes at least a year and a half too two to get 100% confidant on that leg. Either way when you have three fantastic backs like we do you can be patient and let someone develope a little more as needed. they will all have plenty of chances to shine. Go Vols ! Beat the Dawgs!!:rock:
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I'm not saying he can't be a good back...I'm just saying I don't think he's as good as Coker and Foster and you still have J. Williams back there, too. There's just not room for all of them and barring injuries I don't think you take Coker or Foster out to get him reps.
 
#66
#66
I dont understand what some peoples opinion of Hardesty is all about? Move him to defense? Are you kidding? He is a redshirt freshman whose only shortcoming right now is being unsure about when to cut upfield. There are juniors and seniors that struggle with that. He is a harder runner than either Coker or Foster. He is much harder for one guy to bring down than either one of them. I'll put it this way, if you ask a defender who they would rather take a hit from I guarantee you it will not be Hardesty. You leave him at RB because I think he is capable of being an NFL RB and you cant move a guy with that kind of capability. He is a freshman, calm down.
 
#67
#67
therickbol said:
I dont understand what some peoples opinion of Hardesty is all about? Move him to defense? Are you kidding? He is a redshirt freshman whose only shortcoming right now is being unsure about when to cut upfield. There are juniors and seniors that struggle with that. He is a harder runner than either Coker or Foster. He is much harder for one guy to bring down than either one of them. I'll put it this way, if you ask a defender who they would rather take a hit from I guarantee you it will not be Hardesty. You leave him at RB because I think he is capable of being an NFL RB and you cant move a guy with that kind of capability. He is a freshman, calm down.
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AMEN!!!:rock:
 
#68
#68
therickbol said:
I dont understand what some peoples opinion of Hardesty is all about? Move him to defense? Are you kidding? He is a redshirt freshman whose only shortcoming right now is being unsure about when to cut upfield. There are juniors and seniors that struggle with that. He is a harder runner than either Coker or Foster. He is much harder for one guy to bring down than either one of them. I'll put it this way, if you ask a defender who they would rather take a hit from I guarantee you it will not be Hardesty. You leave him at RB because I think he is capable of being an NFL RB and you cant move a guy with that kind of capability. He is a freshman, calm down.
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Well, first they're not going to leave him at RB because YOU think he's an NFL caliber back. Secondly, the purpose of being a RB is not to hit people (that's what you do on defense). Maybe the defenders would rather not be hit by him, but ask them who they'd rather DEFEND...guys who hit the hole and get upfield (and in Coker's case, leave your a$$ in the dust) or Fred Astaire, dancing in the backfield. I have never said that I don't think he's a good back. I just think the other two guys have proven themselves more (and he's had his chances) and they are going to be back for, at least, a couple of years. If you only have Foster and Hardesty or Coker and Hardesty, then yes, keep repping him until he figures out which direction the endzone is, but why keep repping a 3rd guy. Put it on Foster and Coker and go win games.
 
#70
#70
Foster - Coker - Hardesty and oh yea, Ainge to Meachem - Swain - Smith. Triple threat running and passing. Line needs to play well. Think they will.
 
#71
#71
If any of our RBs need to move to DB it's Jakouri Williams. He's supposed to be really fast, but he's yet to crack the top 4 in the depth chart.

Plus he fumbled his first carry last week against Memphis. Not exactly making the most of an opportunity. Doubt we'll move anyone to defense, though, as Ricardo Kemp was already moved from RB/WR to DB prior to the season.
 
#73
#73
mikey said:
Well, first they're not going to leave him at RB because YOU think he's an NFL caliber back. Secondly, the purpose of being a RB is not to hit people (that's what you do on defense). Maybe the defenders would rather not be hit by him, but ask them who they'd rather DEFEND...guys who hit the hole and get upfield (and in Coker's case, leave your a$$ in the dust) or Fred Astaire, dancing in the backfield. I have never said that I don't think he's a good back. I just think the other two guys have proven themselves more (and he's had his chances) and they are going to be back for, at least, a couple of years. If you only have Foster and Hardesty or Coker and Hardesty, then yes, keep repping him until he figures out which direction the endzone is, but why keep repping a 3rd guy. Put it on Foster and Coker and go win games.
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Are you a personal friend of Coker or something? Neither Foster nor Coker have proved themselves against a tough defense yet. The other poster was correct. Hardesty is tougher to bring down than either Coker or Foster, and there's ZERO reason to change his position. He's a redshirt freshman.
 
#74
#74
mikey said:
Well, first they're not going to leave him at RB because YOU think he's an NFL caliber back. Secondly, the purpose of being a RB is not to hit people (that's what you do on defense). Maybe the defenders would rather not be hit by him, but ask them who they'd rather DEFEND...guys who hit the hole and get upfield (and in Coker's case, leave your a$$ in the dust) or Fred Astaire, dancing in the backfield. I have never said that I don't think he's a good back. I just think the other two guys have proven themselves more (and he's had his chances) and they are going to be back for, at least, a couple of years. If you only have Foster and Hardesty or Coker and Hardesty, then yes, keep repping him until he figures out which direction the endzone is, but why keep repping a 3rd guy. Put it on Foster and Coker and go win games.
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You are right. What was I thinking? It makes no sense to have two different style of RB's. One that runs around you and one that runs over you. I always wondered why those stupid NFL coachs played that lame soon to be Hall of Famer nicknamed "The Bus." Running away from the defense is great. I am certainly not saying there is a problem with that. But, having a RB that continually lays licks on the LB's and S's all game takes its toll. It wears down teh defense and has its purpose. What I am saying is the best combination of RB's in the future is Coker and Hardesty. With Hardesty hitting the hole and not dancing he bring everything Foster brings to the table and then some. That is my point. I love what Foster did last season. And, he is a very good back. But, Hardesty has more potential and you dont move a guy with more potential to defense because guys that move to defense don't "develop" as a RB.
 
#75
#75
Vol423 said:
Are you a personal friend of Coker or something? Neither Foster nor Coker have proved themselves against a tough defense yet. The other poster was correct. Hardesty is tougher to bring down than either Coker or Foster, and there's ZERO reason to change his position. He's a redshirt freshman.
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He is either a family member of Coker or has a crush on him, not sure which one. :whistling:
 
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