College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

#2,926
#2,926
99gator said:
Can someone explain RPI to me? I'm not asking to be snarky.

I looked up Florida and Kentucky. Florida's RPI is 38. Kentucky is 15.

Florida has 14 top 100 wins, 8 top 50 wins. 8 of the top 100 wins came away from home. 5 of those top 50 wins came away from home.

Kentucky has 13 top 100 wins, 6 top 50 wins. 3 of the top 100 wins came away from home. 2 of the top 50 wins came away from home.

Based on the RPI, Kentucky's best win was @ home against #23 Texas A&M. Florida beat the same #23 A&M on the road. In addition, beat Auburn (#7), Cincinnati (#10) and Kentucky twice (#15).

Is it the bad losses? Do bad losses hurt that much?

I'm just trying to understand how this is calculated, because it doesn't make sense to me.
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It's calculated like this:
25% Win Percentage
50% Opp Win Percentage
25% Opponents Opp Win Percentage

Also, road wins are weighted more than home wins, and home losses are weighted heavier than road losses.

So if you play a poor schedule, or you have more home losses than road wins, you'll get hurt.
 
#2,931
#2,931
Vols410 said:
It's calculated like this:
25% Win Percentage
50% Opp Win Percentage
25% Opponents Opp Win Percentage

Also, road wins are weighted more than home wins, and home losses are weighted heavier than road losses.

So if you play a poor schedule, or you have more home losses than road wins, you'll get hurt.
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Well, I looked up (for fun) Loyola-Chicago. They beat Florida in December @ Florida. They have an RPI of 32 and Florida (38) is the only top 50 RPI opponent they have faced all season. They have a SOS of 170.

How do you get rated #32 in the RPI when you have played only 1 opponent rated in the RPI top 50 and only 6 opponents rated in the RPI top 100?

Again, I'm just asking. It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
#2,932
#2,932
99gator said:
Well, I looked up (for fun) Loyola-Chicago. They beat Florida in December @ Florida. They have an RPI of 32 and Florida (38) is the only top 50 RPI opponent they have faced all season. They have a SOS of 170.

How do you get rated #32 in the RPI when you have played only 1 opponent rated in the RPI top 50 and only 6 opponents rated in the RPI top 100?

Again, I'm just asking. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Home losses. The Gators have 5, Loyola Chicago has 1.
 
#2,935
#2,935
bleedingTNorange said:
12pm: West Virginia vs. Texas
12pm: Kentucky vs. Florida
2pm: Michigan vs. Michigan State
2pm: Clemson vs. Syracuse
2pm: Alabama vs. Texas A&M
3:30pm: South Carolina vs. Auburn
4:00pm: TCU vs. Texas Tech
4:30pm: Penn State vs. Purdue
6:00pm: Louisville vs. NC State
6:30pm: California vs. Arizona
8:15pm: North Carolina vs. Duke
10pm: Loyola Marymount vs. Gonzaga



I’ll let y’all debate Michigan/Michigan State and North Carolina/Duke.
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Texas wins
Florida wins
Michigan wins
Syracuse wins
Texas A&M wins
South Carolina loses
TCU loses
Penn State loses
NC State wins
California loses
Duke wins
Loyola Marymount loses
 
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#2,936
#2,936
I didn’t include Kansas vs. Oklahoma State because I thought KU was out of reach...but uhm they’re down 20 with 3 minutes remaining.
 
#2,937
#2,937
99gator said:
Can someone explain RPI to me? I'm not asking to be snarky.

I looked up Florida and Kentucky. Florida's RPI is 38. Kentucky is 15.

Florida has 14 top 100 wins, 8 top 50 wins. 8 of the top 100 wins came away from home. 5 of those top 50 wins came away from home.

Kentucky has 13 top 100 wins, 6 top 50 wins. 3 of the top 100 wins came away from home. 2 of the top 50 wins came away from home.

Based on the RPI, Kentucky's best win was @ home against #23 Texas A&M. Florida beat the same #23 A&M on the road. In addition, beat Auburn (#7), Cincinnati (#10) and Kentucky twice (#15).

Is it the bad losses? Do bad losses hurt that much?

I'm just trying to understand how this is calculated, because it doesn't make sense to me.
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The RPI is an index. Has nothing to do with "who" you beat. Has to do with your record, SOS, and gives you more for road wins.

The thing that hurts your RPI is playing bad teams (as in, teams that are 200+). Florida played 5 of those teams- they kill your SOS. In comparison, UK played 4 but those were just over 200. UT played 2.

Also, Florida lost 5 home games while UK lost 2. Losing homes games dings your RPI.
 
#2,938
#2,938
99gator said:
Well, I looked up (for fun) Loyola-Chicago. They beat Florida in December @ Florida. They have an RPI of 32 and Florida (38) is the only top 50 RPI opponent they have faced all season. They have a SOS of 170.

How do you get rated #32 in the RPI when you have played only 1 opponent rated in the RPI top 50 and only 6 opponents rated in the RPI top 100?

Again, I'm just asking. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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RPI is flawed. It's just a tool to use. They will look at record among the RPI groups.
 
#2,939
#2,939
Aside from knocking UNC a little further down the seed line, we want Duke because that will allow NC state to be a 5 seed and have a second game matchup vs Clemson which gives them a much easier chance to climb up to a Q1 win for us. If UNC wins NC State will have to play them
 
#2,941
#2,941
MTSU lost at home to Marshall.
Rpi fell to 26. I think they are still in regardless but might get interesting if they don't make the finals
 
#2,944
#2,944
Do we want Purdue to win the Big 10 Tourney? and if Purdue does win it, do they have any chance to get back to a 1 seed?
 
#2,946
#2,946
golfballs said:
Yes. Michigan could jump us otherwise. And I think it’s highly doubtful they’re a 1
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Thanks gb. I think a win would lock up a 2 seed for Purdue and the stars would probably have to align for them to get back to a 1. But, at least, they will be done, tomorrow and can sit back and watch teams falter
 
#2,947
#2,947
I shouldnt really say highly doubtful... not w the way other teams are losing... more like they probably need some help to be a 1
 
#2,948
#2,948
Jerry Palm think Michigan is at best a 4 seed if they win tomorrow, which if true should mean that we’d want them to win...
 
#2,950
#2,950
BruinVol said:
I don't think Mich can catch us now win lose. Tourneys don't mean that much imo
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If they win today they’ll be 7-5 in Q1 games and B1G Tourney champs.

They haven’t meant a lot in the past, but the committee is looking at wins differently this year. Major conference tournaments will be prime opportunities for Q1 wins. Probably unlikely they move past us, but there are always surprises...
 
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