College Hoops Around The Country [TN opponents, RPI, others]

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bleedingTNorange said:
Gotta think this is probably his last year at UGA
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They will probably be all-time bad, this year, so that’s likely a safe bet. Transfer portal and now injuries have killed them. Not to mention the ascension of programs like Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, and LSU only help to make their struggles all the more glaring.
 
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cncchris33 said:
They will probably be all-time bad, this year, so that’s likely a safe bet. Transfer portal and now injuries have killed them. Not to mention the ascension of programs like Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, and LSU only help to make their struggles all the more glaring.
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This is the only notable thing that comes to mind when you mention Georgia basketball

 
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Men's March Madness bracket predictions, ahead of opening night

Andy Katz has us as an 8-seed in his meaningless Pre-Season NCAAT predictions. That's harsh, but he's been kind of an outlier in the pre-season predictions as we are barely in his Top-35 last time I checked. I think our underachievement from last season is skewing his predictions because he thinks its going to happen again.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Men's March Madness bracket predictions, ahead of opening night

Andy Katz has us as an 8-seed in his meaningless Pre-Season NCAAT predictions. That's harsh, but he's been kind of an outlier in the pre-season predictions as we are barely in his Top-35 last time I checked. I think our underachievement from last season is skewing his predictions because he thinks its going to happen again.
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Yet, interestingly enough, Kentucky skates by and isn't penalized for wetting the bed, last year. Katz has them has his top #3 seed (#9 overall).
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yet, interestingly enough, Kentucky skates by and isn't penalized for wetting the bed, last year. Katz has them has his top #3 seed (#9 overall).
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It's Kentucky. They could have been 0-25 last year and they will ALWAYS be a Pre-Season Top 10 team. It is what it is. Analysts have that big blue fever.

I just find it hilarious how out in left field he is with this prediction. I think a 5-seed is a nice, safe prediction (and probably will be accurate), but I also think it's far more likely this team gets a 2-seed or 3-seed than an 8-seed lmao.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It's Kentucky. They could have been 0-25 last year and they will ALWAYS be a Pre-Season Top 10 team. It is what it is. Analysts have that big blue fever.

I just find it hilarious how out in left field he is with this prediction. I think a 5-seed is a nice, safe prediction (and probably will be accurate), but I also think it's far more likely this team gets a 2-seed or 3-seed than an 8-seed lmao.
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I still don’t think Kentucky will be all that good this year either.

Maybe better than last year but nothing special.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It's Kentucky. They could have been 0-25 last year and they will ALWAYS be a Pre-Season Top 10 team. It is what it is. Analysts have that big blue fever.

I just find it hilarious how out in left field he is with this prediction. I think a 5-seed is a nice, safe prediction (and probably will be accurate), but I also think it's far more likely this team gets a 2-seed or 3-seed than an 8-seed lmao.
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Trust me, I'm well-acquainted with the Kentucky lovefest. Just pointing out the double-standard built into the perceived reasoning for pushing Tennessee down the board while continuing to prop up the assumed potential of the Cats.

Team #1
2020 record: 9-16 (8-9)
Returns 5 players, 1 starter
#10 Recruiting Class in 2021
Added 4 transfers

Team #2
2020 record: 18-9 (10-7)
Returns 6 players, 3 starters
#4 Recruiting Class in 2021
Added 1 transfer

Of course we know which resumé belongs to which school, but blindly choosing to fade one of those teams, which one is getting pushed down by 99% of the people you'd ask?

Like you said, only when you expose the name "Kentucky" by the first resumé does it change the perspective.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Trust me, I'm well-acquainted with the Kentucky lovefest. Just pointing out the double-standard built into the perceived reasoning for pushing Tennessee down the board while continuing to prop up the assumed potential of the Cats.

Team #1
2020 record: 9-16 (8-9)
Returns 5 players, 1 starter
#10 Recruiting Class in 2021
Added 4 transfers

Team #2
2020 record: 18-9 (10-7)
Returns 6 players, 3 starters
#4 Recruiting Class in 2021
Added 1 transfer

Of course we know which resumé belongs to which school, but blindly choosing to fade one of those teams, which one is getting pushed down by 99% of the people you'd ask?

Like you said, only when you expose the name "Kentucky" by the first resumé does it change the perspective.
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All good points. I think everyone on this board is the same page lol. Now, I don't think Kentucky has another 9-16 type season this year, they will definitely be a lot better with a normal off-season and a pissed off Cal. But, I think Katz discounting TN as much as he has done so far, just comes across as bitter. I also think it comes off as ill-informed, because this summer there was a stretch of time when he was doing his Power 36 rankings every week or two that he didn't even have BHH and Fulky listed as players on the team.
 
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walkenvol said:
Chris - don’t you Gotta include transfers in for an accident comparison? ky did well there
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I assume you meant "actual", not accident, and sure, who those transfers are certainly matters. And I like the potential of all 4 of those guys, but honestly, Wheeler is the only one who has performed at an all-conference level in the SEC.

Oscar Tshiebwe averaged 8 and 8 at WVU, last season before transferring. He has 21 rebounds in 2 exhibition games. That has always been his MO. He's a decent scorer, but not ever really a nightly threat to go for 20. He gobbles up rebounds, though, especially on the offensive glass. Started both games.

Kellan Grady averaged 17 ppg while shooting 38% from 3 at Davidson. Does that transfer to the SEC? He's averaged 10 ppg in the 2 exhibition games on 4-7 shooting from 3. Started both games.

CJ Fredrick put up modest scoring numbers at Iowa, last year (7.5 ppg), but can really shoot the ball. Career 46.6% 3-pt shooter. Played a lot of minutes, but didn't really factor into the offense much for some reason. Does that change at UK? He doesn't do much else outside of shooting the ball from deep, so I can't see him being more than a depth player, there. Similar to Victor Bailey. He's been injured throughout the preseason and has missed both exhibitions.

Remember, UK brought in 3 transfers, last year, too, and it didn't really pan out for them. Team chemistry is big, and blending 5 existing players, 4 transfers, and 4 high-level freshmen will be a challenge by itself.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I assume you meant "actual", not accident, and sure, who those transfers are certainly matters. And I like the potential of all 4 of those guys, but honestly, Wheeler is the only one who has performed at an all-conference level in the SEC.

Oscar Tshiebwe averaged 8 and 8 at WVU, last season before transferring. He has 21 rebounds in 2 exhibition games. That has always been his MO. He's a decent scorer, but not ever really a nightly threat to go for 20. He gobbles up rebounds, though, especially on the offensive glass. Started both games.

Kellan Grady averaged 17 ppg while shooting 38% from 3 at Davidson. Does that transfer to the SEC? He's averaged 10 ppg in the 2 exhibition games on 4-7 shooting from 3. Started both games.

CJ Fredrick put up modest scoring numbers at Iowa, last year (7.5 ppg), but can really shoot the ball. Career 46.6% 3-pt shooter. Played a lot of minutes, but didn't really factor into the offense much for some reason. Does that change at UK? He doesn't do much else outside of shooting the ball from deep, so I can't see him being more than a depth player, there. Similar to Victor Bailey. He's been injured throughout the preseason and has missed both exhibitions.

Remember, UK brought in 3 transfers, last year, too, and it didn't really pan out for them. Team chemistry is big, and blending 5 existing players, 4 transfers, and 4 high-level freshmen will be a challenge by itself.
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When I look at Kentucky, I see a team who's second five could probably be a top twenty type team. But I don't think there first five will be significantly better. They have great depth but can only play five at a time. Chemistry and players buying into their roles will be a challenge. Especially early on. I don't think Kentucky has another 9 win season but expect some struggles to begin the season and I don't think they're a final four or elite eight type team at the end of the season. I think Tennessee could be.
 
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