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bleedingTNorange said:
Not trying to be a contrarian or pumper but it was headed in a positive direction for about a 5-6 game span, 2 bad games and now it’s going the opposite way. It’s not as if it’s been a trend for awhile now of poor offensive showings, it’s actually the opposite.
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It may be a bump in the road, but back-to-back games shooting 27% is cause for concern for a team that has shown themselves to be offensively inept at several points in the season. So which is the anomaly? The 5 game stretch of good offensive basketball, or the pockets of inconsistent offensive basketball? Right now, there’s no way to spin that we are headed in the right direction, offensively. I’m not abandoning hope we can’t find a different rhythm and turn it around, but right now, we are heading the wrong direction. Admitting that isn’t me giving up. It’s simply being aware of the current state of things. Let’s string together 3-4 good games of offense, and we’ll chalk the last two up to a mini-slump.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
One can only hope. We luckily don’t have to climb quite as far from 105-40, but I’d feel a lot better if we could even just climb 30 spots from 60 to 30 by the start of the NCAAT. As it stands right now, alarm bells are going off with our offense, and Memorial is typically not the place you want to go when you’re in a slump to break out of it with the way their gym is constructed.
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Yea we were on a good trend upwards and up to 31 or 30 iirc, don’t need to get it all back in 1 go but Missouri has #174 defense and Vanderbilt #186, we need to put up some points this week.
 
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cncchris33 said:
It may be a bump in the road, but back-to-back games shooting 27% is cause for concern for a team that has shown themselves to be offensively inept at several points in the season. So which is the anomaly? The 5 game stretch of good offensive basketball, or the pockets of inconsistent offensive basketball? Right now, there’s no way to spin that we are headed in the right direction, offensively. I’m not abandoning hope we can’t find a different rhythm and turn it around, but right now, we are heading the wrong direction. Admitting that isn’t me giving up. It’s simply being aware of the current state of things. Let’s string together 3-4 good games of offense, and we’ll chalk the last two up to a mini-slump.
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My opinion is we are heavily affected by matchups and schemes.

I don’t think our offense “trends” so much as it’s just a scatter plot.
 
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cncchris33 said:
It may be a bump in the road, but back-to-back games shooting 27% is cause for concern for a team that has shown themselves to be offensively inept at several points in the season. So which is the anomaly? The 5 game stretch of good offensive basketball, or the pockets of inconsistent offensive basketball? Right now, there’s no way to spin that we are headed in the right direction, offensively. I’m not abandoning hope we can’t find a different rhythm and turn it around, but right now, we are heading the wrong direction. Admitting that isn’t me giving up. It’s simply being aware of the current state of things. Let’s string together 3-4 good games of offense, and we’ll chalk the last two up to a mini-slump.
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Talking like out of 23 games we have 6-7 good offensive games and a whole bunch of duds offensively isn’t accurate at all…17/23 games have been over 99.0 per Barttorvik, which is good, not great but good. If anything the 2 recent games are way more of outliers than the previous 6/7 good games or whatever it was. Now if the same offensive issues continue then that’s bad, but right now the last 2 seem like the anomaly and that 60th ranked offense is much more accurately probably 35-40 imo. JMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Talking like out of 23 games we have 6-7 good offensive games and a whole bunch of duds offensively isn’t accurate at all…17/23 games have been over 99.0 per Barttorvik, which is good, not great but good. If anything the 2 recent games are way more of outliers than the previous 6/7 good games or whatever it was. Now if the same offensive issues continue then that’s bad, but right now the last 2 seem like the anomaly and that 60th ranked offense is much more accurately probably 35-40 imo. JMO
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I never even implied that, though.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It really feels like there’s a common theme of opposing teams having a good 5 man that has typically caused us some issues.
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yah. Think back to the Texas game. We had a ton of easy buckets. Lots of open layups and dunks due to defenses getting lost in switches etc..

When that doesn’t happen, we become a team of ISO’s and 3 point shots and if we are cold shooting, well, you get what we had last week.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It really feels like there’s a common theme of opposing teams having a good 5 man that has typically caused us some issues.
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I would prefer to draw a “really good” team that is guard heavy in March for Round of 32 than a mediocre 7-seed with bad guards and a good big man if that makes sense. Weirdly enough I have more confidence in beating a team like Texas in the Round of 32 than a team like Florida.
 
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Maybe I'm looking for reasons for hope here, but it does look like the SEC has several quality defensive squads. For KenPom AdjD, you've the Vols at 1, Bama at 5, Miss St at 6, UF at 10, Auburn at 12, Arkansas at 13 (although we haven't played Bama or Arky yet). Out of conference you've got Kansas at 17, Colorado at 19, Maryland at 24, and Texas at 27. So, we have faced a number of tough defenses, which may have contributed to woes.
 
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omghulkhands said:
yah. Think back to the Texas game. We had a ton of easy buckets. Lots of open layups and dunks due to defenses getting lost in switches etc..

When that doesn’t happen, we become a team of ISO’s and 3 point shots and if we are cold shooting, well, you get what we had last week.
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Yup, I laid out our bigs wins and losses, very common them of how those teams post situations look…Kansas was obviously a great win for us, no post game to speak of. When our 5’s can dominate, ZZ can get to the hoop and score it opens up everything else for us, if not you get what you’ve seen in our struggles. It’s why I said I didn’t like the Auburn matchup, Broome is really good 5, but we managed to win that one.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I would prefer to draw a “really good” team that is guard heavy in March for Round of 32 than a mediocre 7-seed with bad guards and a good big man if that makes sense. Weirdly enough I have more confidence in beating a team like Texas in the Round of 32 than a team like Florida.
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We’d get absolutely smoked by Indiana

But probably truck Houston
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It definitely read that way asking which the anomaly was and saying there’s no way to spin which direction the offense is headed, because of a 2 game stretch while ignoring the bigger sample size.
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Well, you’re reading into it what you want, then. This isn’t an issue unique to two games. We’ve had struggles in other games, too. That nice 5-6 game stretch was met with two of the worst offensive outputs of the entire season. We were even worse against Colorado (25%). Maryland was 29%. Doing it two games in a row in February is concerning, though not cause for panic. You seem intent on overstating my level of concern, though.
 
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omghulkhands said:
We’d get absolutely smoked by Indiana

But probably truck Houston
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Yeah, I want no part of TJD. Agreed.

I also agree we would beat Houston. I think they’ll end up as a 1-seed, but I thihk they’ll be the most vulnerable 1-seed and the first to be bounced. I just don’t think they’re as good as the metrics suggest. When the competition gets more stiff in March, I think they’ll be exposed.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I would prefer to draw a “really good” team that is guard heavy in March for Round of 32 than a mediocre 7-seed with bad guards and a good big man if that makes sense. Weirdly enough I have more confidence in beating a team like Texas in the Round of 32 than a team like Florida.
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It makes total sense unless we show something different between now and then.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I would prefer to draw a “really good” team that is guard heavy in March for Round of 32 than a mediocre 7-seed with bad guards and a good big man if that makes sense. Weirdly enough I have more confidence in beating a team like Texas in the Round of 32 than a team like Florida.
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I dont want any team with a competent C
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It makes total sense unless we show something different between now and then.
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Yeah. I just think our defense is built to limit high-scoring offenses. Our offense is not built to attack long, athletic big men at the 4/5 which is usually what some of those mediocre 7 thru 10 seeds have going for them, bigs over guards. Give me a draw that looks tougher on paper if the path is filled with guard heavy teams, rather than a path that looks “easy” because their offense is mediocre but they are big.
 
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Missouri will be interesting to see, they obviously play super small, in theory we should absolutely carve them up like we did Texas. Texas A&M also does not play big at all, obviously Alabama has Bediako so in theory that doesn’t look great.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Missouri will be interesting to see, they obviously play super small, in theory we should absolutely carve them up like we did Texas. Texas A&M also does not play big at all, obviously Alabama has Bediako so in theory that doesn’t look great.
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I just have a weird feeling that we’ll play great against Alabama and win. I don’t think it will tell us anything necessarily about our team and our March chances, but we tend to show up for the biggest games at home. Kentucky this year was obviously an anomaly, but #10 Texas this year, #4 Arizona last year, and then two top 5 opponents last year in Auburn and Kentucky. When the lights are brightest we tend to flip a switch in TBA.

And, before anyone asks, no I don’t consider the game against an overrated Auburn team “a big game.” I’m talking Top 10 or Kentucky only.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Gotcha, apologies…yea, I agree obviously. Robbins at Vandy is pretty good and gave us some issues the first matchup as well, I think they just done have the guard pieces to be enough to go along with him.
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I would like to see what Stackhouse could do somewhere he could get more talent.
But yeah even with our shooting woes I don't think Vandy can beat us.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I just have a weird feeling that we’ll play great against Alabama and win. I don’t think it will tell us anything necessarily about our team and our March chances, but we tend to show up for the biggest games at home. Kentucky this year was obviously an anomaly, but #10 Texas this year, #4 Arizona last year, and then two top 5 opponents last year in Auburn and Kentucky. When the lights are brightest we tend to flip a switch in TBA.

And, before anyone asks, no I don’t consider the game against an overrated Auburn team “a big game.” I’m talking Top 10 or Kentucky only.
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Definitely wouldn’t be surprised, just will be interesting if we do to see why we won…was Bediako in foul trouble or we just couldn’t miss from 3, etc.
 
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