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Rick Barnes is an extremely good coach, in my opinion. His personality sure does not seem to be a great match for this current Wild Wild West of collegiate professional sports though. I hope he is here several more years, but I can only imagine the combination of loving coaching versus the mixed emotions he MIGHT be having with college athletes turning into full fledged professional athletes and the college is pretty much irrelevant nowadays except to the fans that still root for the school (at least for now).
 
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lawgator1 said:
He's telling the truth about how college athletics is in the process of being destroyed by NIL and the portal. Oh well, guess it's time I got into soccer anyway.
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He may be telling the truth, but he’s also being a bit hypocritical since that Final Four team he had in 2023 was almost entirely built through the transfer portal if I recall correctly.
 
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Pennheel said:
I'm sure the portal plays a factor like with Bennett and Jay Wright retiring. However, I also wonder if Miami got off to a hot start instead of 4-8 that this would've happened. Like mentioned, he used the portal himself.
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I'll be honest, I'm surprised at the number of older coaches who have just up and left their programs in the lurch. It's not like NIL & portal is an unknown by now.

We've been critical of Carr quitting on the team in mid year. Unless there's non-bball reasons (e.g. health)it is far worse for the coach to up and quit mid season or right before the season
 
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Lukusw said:
I'll be honest, I'm surprised at the number of older coaches who have just up and left their programs in the lurch. It's not like NIL & portal is an unknown by now.

We've been critical of Carr quitting on the team in mid year. Unless there's non-bball reasons (e.g. health)it is far worse for the coach to up and quit mid season or right before the season
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Feels like Saban's hypocrisy when he made millions from NCAA football but couldn't stand it when kids started to do the same.
 
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Lukusw said:
Feels like Saban's hypocrisy when he made millions from NCAA football but couldn't stand it when kids started to do the same.
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This, Saban can eat a bag of deez. He made his and more than likely liked it when things were "under the table" and he got out when it more in the open.

That's my biggest issue with all this, people losing thier s*** because college kids finally are asking for a piece of the pie after the coaches, schools and networks have made billions off of them and players are supposed to be ok with the relative chump change of a full ride. People go on about "they're student athletes/amateurs", yeah this isn't the 50s anymore where there were 3 channels and maybe 2 games on a week. It's big business worth billions. This didn't start with the athletes wanting money, it started when the coaches and networks started to get paid big money and the arms race was on.

Having said that, yes the system needs many changes and guardrails put in place. I do agree with Herbsteit that they're going to have to treat it somehow like pro sports contracts because a player for the Bears can't just decide they want to play for the Lions in the middle of their commitment. I don't want to go some full free agency/contract system but some kind of rule like if you commit to a school you are there 2 years minimum, and if you leave before that you have to sit out 2 years.
 
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I'm fine with the kids getting paid, but I think there has to be transfer portal restrictions and maybe a cap on NIL (like NFL)

U take upfront money and leave, that's stealing to me and I'm hearing about this a lot.
 
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What I find hilarious is all the bemoaning of the schools having no leverage with NIL. The schools have the money and the leverage, they just lack the self control and want rules created in lieu of operating in a sane manner. All these players can enter the portal in search of more $ or playing time, but the schools don’t have to pony up. The schools are like a bunch of drunken sailors trying to out bid each other for the prettiest girl. Develop some restraint and offer something fair and nothing beyond and the market will correct. Barron demanded more and hit the road when it wasn’t delivered and we were none the worse.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It very well could be, his assistants do a great job fielding him a competitive team, as long as that continues he’ll be pretty happy imo
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This was a topic of conversation on today's episode of The Sports Source and the main snippet was how Barnes and his staff will have to recruit a new roster for 2025 after the exits of Lanier, Milicic, Darlingstone, Gainey, Mashack and Ziegler and the Carr defection.

I think this will invigorate Barnes and he will finish out his current contract which expires in 2028.
 
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Lukusw said:
I'll be honest, I'm surprised at the number of older coaches who have just up and left their programs in the lurch. It's not like NIL & portal is an unknown by now.

We've been critical of Carr quitting on the team in mid year. Unless there's non-bball reasons (e.g. health)it is far worse for the coach to up and quit mid season or right before the season
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Why?

You're an established coach and you always had to recruit but now you on top of that have to beg the players to stay and up their contracts. And if you don't you have everyone calling for your head.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Why?

You're an established coach and you always had to recruit but now you on top of that have to beg the players to stay and up their contracts. And if you don't you have everyone calling for your head.
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It's the quitting right before the season or in the middle. Just poor form. Sure, I understand not liking NIL / transfer portal and the current state of NCAA basketball. But leave at the end of the year.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
This was a topic of conversation on today's episode of The Sports Source and the main snippet was how Barnes and his staff will have to recruit a new roster for 2025 after the exits of Lanier, Milicic, Darlingstone, Gainey, Mashack and Ziegler and the Carr defection.

I think this will invigorate Barnes and he will finish out his current contract which expires in 2028.
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I watch reruns of stuff for comedy entertainment.. but I bet CRB watches Sports Source, during the 15 segments per year they talk about basketball, for his comedy entertainment. 😂 Pancratz knows his stuff, and occasionally they’ll invite IVictor. But for the most part the reason they don’t talk more about bball is because the main crew, don’t know much more than doo doo about it. Jmo
 
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Volfan1000 said:
This was a topic of conversation on today's episode of The Sports Source and the main snippet was how Barnes and his staff will have to recruit a new roster for 2025 after the exits of Lanier, Milicic, Darlingstone, Gainey, Mashack and Ziegler and the Carr defection.

I think this will invigorate Barnes and he will finish out his current contract which expires in 2028.
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I hope you're right. don't shoot the messenger, but I think this is Barnes' last year. I'm just not seeing a guy his age willing to try to recruit an entire new team through the portal, and the team he's assembled this year, if (big if) they stay healthy, seems to be his final do-or-die run at a Final Four.
 
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Crazy thought that is perhaps specific to basketball, but I wonder what prevents players from coming together and filing lawsuits that void professional drafts? And then the next step is that each NBA team owner begin using NIL as a mechanism to essentially "take over" a couple of college programs to create and fund their own professional feeder teams? The draft would have to be eliminated for it to work.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He's telling the truth about how college athletics is in the process of being destroyed by NIL and the portal. Oh well, guess it's time I got into soccer anyway.
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Why would you do that with all that UF football momentum you’ve been posting about?
 
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