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I'm wondering what the future of the NIT is. No SEC, Big 10, or Big East teams. 2 ACC and 1 Big 12 teams, and several teams in those conferences declined invitations. There are only 4 teams from the Power conferences playing (SMU, Stanford, Georgia Tech, and Oklahoma St.) and they all weren't the first invited.

On top of that Fox has the new College Basketball Crown which the Big East, Big 10, and Big 12 all committed to send 2 teams each to the CBC.

The CBI already was pretty much just low mid-majors and the CIT looks like it had to cancel due to lack of teams.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I'm wondering what the future of the NIT is. No SEC, Big 10, or Big East teams. 2 ACC and 1 Big 12 teams, and several teams in those conferences declined invitations. There are only 4 teams from the Power conferences playing (SMU, Stanford, Georgia Tech, and Oklahoma St.) and they all weren't the first invited.

On top of that Fox has the new College Basketball Crown which the Big East, Big 10, and Big 12 all committed to send 2 teams each to the CBC.

The CBI already was pretty much just low mid-majors and the CIT looks like it had to cancel due to lack of teams.
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The NIT shot itself in the foot with their SEC and ACC agreement. Providing auto-bids to the SEC and ACC alienated the Big Ten/Big XII/Big East, allowing for the College Basketball Crown to form. Come to find out the only SEC programs not invited to the NCAA Tournament are rightfully embarrassed to participate in the NIT, so this first year is a massive failure.

Is it worth spending money to participate when Power 5 programs probably want to focus on fixing their rosters and mid-majors don't want to pay to have more highlight reels for player poaching?
 
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TrumpedUpVol said:
The NIT shot itself in the foot with their SEC and ACC agreement. Providing auto-bids to the SEC and ACC alienated the Big Ten/Big XII/Big East, allowing for the College Basketball Crown to form. Come to find out the only SEC programs not invited to the NCAA Tournament are rightfully embarrassed to participate in the NIT, so this first year is a massive failure.

Is it worth spending money to participate when Power 5 programs probably want to focus on fixing their rosters and mid-majors don't want to pay to have more highlight reels for player poaching?
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Yeah, I think the focus thing and highlight reel issue is why long term these consolation tournaments might go away. To me they are like the non-playoff bowls, I like to watch the games but I get that long term they may not have a place.

Kind of funny, I doubt we'll see much of an "outcry" if the NIT goes away like people seem to have about bowl games becoming less important even though the NIT has way more history and imo it going away is a bigger deal than the Cap'n Crunch Bowl.
 
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They ought to have a tournament for the 12 teams eliminated in the 2nd week and brand it as the NIT.

Could even take the 48 or 52 eliminated in the first week and have a head-to-head single game consolation challenge. Or 2 games. Or divide the field up into 4, 8, or 16 team mini-tournaments.

It sucks for every team except for one to end their season with a loss.

To prevent teams from skipping, it could be a condition of accepting an invitation to the NCAAT. It would be difficult to include a requirement in NIL contracts to prevent a mass exodus of players. Or players could be incentivized to participate with bonuses.

Another completely different idea for the NIT. The SEC and Big 10 ought to buy it and tell the NCAA to kick rocks. The NCAA owns it right now, but if they aren’t able to make it viable a court could make them divest it (since they all but have a monopoly right now with post season tournaments).
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
They ought to have a tournament for the 12 teams eliminated in the 2nd week and brand it as the NIT.

Could even take the 48 or 52 eliminated in the first week and have a head-to-head single game consolation challenge. Or 2 games. Or divide the field up into 4, 8, or 16 team mini-tournaments.

It sucks for every team except for one to end their season with a loss.

To prevent teams from skipping, it could be a condition of accepting an invitation to the NCAAT. It would be difficult to include a requirement in NIL contracts to prevent a mass exodus of players. Or players could be incentivized to participate with bonuses.

Another completely different idea for the NIT. The SEC and Big 10 ought to buy it and tell the NCAA to kick rocks. The NCAA owns it right now, but if they aren’t able to make it viable a court could make them divest it (since they all but have a monopoly right now with post season tournaments).
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A losers bracket for the NCAA tournament is a fascinating idea I’ve never considered:

I wonder if they could do it like the NBA cup and give out financial prizes to the winner
 
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omghulkhands said:
A losers bracket for the NCAA tournament is a fascinating idea I’ve never considered:

I wonder if they could do it like the NBA cup and give out financial prizes to the winner
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Unless there is some type of financial commitment, I cannot imagine many players would sign up to keep playing basketball in some type of loser’s bracket. You’d probably see a ton of opt outs from upperclassmen or draft eligible players.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Unless there is some type of financial commitment, I cannot imagine many players would sign up to keep playing basketball in some type of loser’s bracket. You’d probably see a ton of opt outs from upperclassmen or draft eligible players.
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Yeah. It’s why I thought of the cash prizes.

It’s be cool if it was successful enough to pay the players and the school NIL fund. So for the fans, it’s like you are cheering for a payday for a future recruit too
 
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omghulkhands said:
A losers bracket for the NCAA tournament is a fascinating idea I’ve never considered:

I wonder if they could do it like the NBA cup and give out financial prizes to the winner
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There was a losers bracket (Regional 3rd place games) when TN went to their first NCAAT in 1967. Unfortunately Mears went 0-2. Lost by 1 to Dayton in the opener. Dayton went on to the finals and lost to UCLA.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Still doesn’t justify putting them in.
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While I agree that their resume doesn’t say “tournament team”, I gotta give UNC a lot of credit. They heard the talk loud and clear and used it as fuel to motivate them tonight. We will see what they do beyond tonight, but this version of UNC can beat Ole Miss imo. Tough game upcoming for the Rebels.
 
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