Computer specialists, recommend a new computer in this thread (A VN Classic)

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well, outside of the incredibly lame "i don't want to learn a new OS" excuse, why must you run Windows on the MacBook?
 
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droski said:
the problem with the Toshiba's is that the cooling fan is at the bottom of the laptop so when you have it on a desk or something the fan is blocked. they overheat like crazy and eventually turn off. it's a huge pain in the ass.
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ah, finally, someone that actually sticks to the point! thanks, oski!

the one i have now does get quite hot, though never to the point of turning itself off. never really had overheating problems with my two satellites. does overheating cause long-term damage? that is, if it doesn't turn itself off, is it that big of a deal?

what are your thoughts on macbooks?
 
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I work for a corporation that issues laptops to hundreds of employees. We use Dell exclusively and not just because of the price. They are kind of pricey for my liking. We have had <6% of them to fail and the only thing users report regularly that they don't like is the battery life. However, installing two batteries has solved that problem. We had a contract with Toshiba previously and the satisfaction rating was not good. We had a 18% failure rate with the machines. Just my personal experience.
As for a Mac, if you do multimedia design or any kind of graphics design, nothing can touch a Mac. But for daily work such as most folks do, XP is the king.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
i'm asking for help picking between a macbook running xp and a tosihba (any model). suggestions that i buy a dell, hp, Lenova, etc. do not answer my question.
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Your thread title asked for expert advice on a new computer. We are all telling you that Toshiba is junk, look at X. Instead you tell us that our advice sucks, and we're idiots, "because X had one of those and they hated it."

I certainly won't be offering you any advice in the future. It wouldn't have been hard to graciously accept the advice of folks in here, and then ignore it. Instead you insult the "experts" you were asking for advice from by saying they have no idea what they are talking about... that their choice of computer is junk, for no reason other than some law school students hated it, or you used one before and didn't like it.
 
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superdave1984 said:
I work for a corporation that issues laptops to hundreds of employees. We use Dell exclusively and not just because of the price. They are kind of pricey for my liking. We have had <6% of them to fail and the only thing users report regularly that they don't like is the battery life. However, installing two batteries has solved that problem. We had a contract with Toshiba previously and the satisfaction rating was not good. We had a 18% failure rate with the machines. Just my personal experience.
As for a Mac, if you do multimedia design or any kind of graphics design, nothing can touch a Mac. But for daily work such as most folks do, XP is the king.
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If one knows how to use OSX properly it is much more efficient than XP for everyday work. Hell, I like Office for OSX better than I do for XP and it's made by Microsoft.
 
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rwemyss said:
Your thread title asked for expert advice on a new computer. We are all telling you that Toshiba is junk, look at X. Instead you tell us that our advice sucks, and we're idiots, "because X had one of those and they hated it."

I certainly won't be offering you any advice in the future. It wouldn't have been hard to graciously accept the advice of folks in here, and then ignore it. Instead you insult the "experts" you were asking for advice from by saying they have no idea what they are talking about... that their choice of computer is junk, for no reason other than some law school students hated it, or you used one before and didn't like it.
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1. and my post explains which two computers i am choosing between.

2. so far i haven't seen anyone call a toshiba junk on this thread. and if they do so, i would like for them to explain what they don't like about it. so far, droski is the only one that pointed to a specific fault (i.e., the fan), which i understand to be an issue that affects high-performance models more so than the basic models. i am looking for a basic.

3. i dislike dells and hp's because in my experience, they were prone to crashing and running more slowly (after some use) than any toshiba model i've ever used. all computers run fast in the beginning, but my point is that the honeymoon period with these has been much shorter, in my experience.

4. again, i am looking for specific comparisons of a macbook running windows vs. a basic toshiba model. so far, droski is the only one that has even attempted to address my question.
 
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superdave1984 said:
I work for a corporation that issues laptops to hundreds of employees. We use Dell exclusively and not just because of the price. They are kind of pricey for my liking. We have had <6% of them to fail and the only thing users report regularly that they don't like is the battery life. However, installing two batteries has solved that problem. We had a contract with Toshiba previously and the satisfaction rating was not good. We had a 18% failure rate with the machines. Just my personal experience.
As for a Mac, if you do multimedia design or any kind of graphics design, nothing can touch a Mac. But for daily work such as most folks do, XP is the king.
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thanks, this is really helpful. can i ask what types of toshiba machines you've dealt with and what the main problems were? (hardware? software? battery life?)

i've had two types of toshiba's - an ultraportable (with the extended life battery) and two satellites. if i bought a toshiba again, i would probably go for one of these two types of models. do you have any specific experience with these?

thanks in advance for your time. :)
 
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also, can anyone that uses a macbook provide some commentary on the touchpad. all the reviews i've seen have said that it's tough to get used to.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
work reasons, mostly. have a bunch of custom made company apps that i can't run on a mac OS.
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then why would you consider even buying a Macbook?

considering buying a Mac just to run Windows might be the single stupidest thing i have ever read on this site.
 
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utvolpj said:
computers have come a long way since your first yr in law school I can assure you. The PC I built 4yrs ago ran about $2k and was top of the line then. It's an entry level (at best) in today's world.

I use my HP laptop for more than a law student/lawyer ever will and it is more than adequate.
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Me too all over the US bascially in ever region. Never any trouble at all that I couldn't figure out and I'm no computer Guru. Actually my son has it away at college now. Works fine for him as well.I don't mind Dells either.Now law student ,graduating and passing the board, are two different things, right? :)
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
also, can anyone that uses a macbook provide some commentary on the touchpad. all the reviews i've seen have said that it's tough to get used to.
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The touchpad is very simple. Drag two fingers to scroll. Click the button to click something. Ctrl + Click to get the same effect as a right click.
 
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doozer said:
then why would you consider even buying a Macbook?

considering buying a Mac just to run Windows might be the single stupidest thing i have ever read on this site.
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insults are not necessary. i assure you that i am not the first person looking into it. plenty of people, for various reasons, buy macbooks and run windows on them. it may that this is not the most efficient use of the machine's resources, but if it was as idiotic as you imply, i doubt apple would have buckled to the overwhelming demand and even offered windows on its machines.
 
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dickens821 said:
The touchpad is very simple. Drag two fingers to scroll. Click the button to click something. Ctrl + Click to get the same effect as a right click.
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why two fingers? so egomaniacal of apple to try to change the way people use a touch pad, for no identifiably good reason. i could understand if it simplified the process, or made it more efficient, but this seems inexplicable.
 
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utvolpj said:
computers have come a long way since your first yr in law school I can assure you. The PC I built 4yrs ago ran about $2k and was top of the line then. It's an entry level (at best) in today's world.

I use my HP laptop for more than a law student/lawyer ever will and it is more than adequate.
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But would you risk your life to fight for it? :p
http://www.kpho.com/news/17931454/detail.html
 
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i really dont get the benefit of running the windows operating system on a mac. one of the main reasons people buy a mac is just to use the osx operating system. so this makes no sense to me. dell isn't that bad.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
insults are not necessary. i assure you that i am not the first person looking into it. plenty of people, for various reasons, buy macbooks and run windows on them. it may that this is not the most efficient use of the machine's resources, but if it was as idiotic as you imply, i doubt apple would have buckled to the overwhelming demand and even offered windows on its machines.
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yes, buying a computer for 1500-2000 grand just to use Windows makes perfect sense. especially when a normal PC at half the price will do the trick.

how could i have missed something so obvious?
 
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duckman398686 said:
i really dont get the benefit of running the windows operating system on a mac. one of the main reasons people buy a mac is just to use the osx operating system. so this makes no sense to me. dell isn't that bad.
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my understanding is that the crossover market is driven predominantly by people who realize that these machines are built better than most others, but who can't, for whatever reason, use OXS. i don't dispute that i would get far more benefit out of running the osx on it; i just wouldn't be able to do it most of the time. so the question is, is paying that much morefor a better built machine still worth it? you seem to be saying no.
 
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doozer said:
yes, buying a computer for 1500-2000 grand just to use Windows makes perfect sense. especially when a normal PC at half the price will do the trick.

how could i have missed something so obvious?
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and yet there's a market for it. enough of a market for apple to capitalize on it.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
and yet there's a market for it. enough of a market for apple to capitalize on it.
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the market isn't there solely to use Windows though. The market that is there are for people wanting to use both.

You have stated that you are only going to use Windows on it and you don't want to/have the time to learn the OS X. You are also one of maybe five people on earth that don't work for Toshiba yet make claims that Toshibas are better right now than Dells or HPs.

If you are only going to use Windows, there is no reason to get a Mac. However, you can do much, much better than a Toshiba.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
my understanding is that the crossover market is driven predominantly by people who realize that these machines are built better than most others, but who can't, for whatever reason, use OXS. i don't dispute that i would get far more benefit out of running the osx on it; i just wouldn't be able to do it most of the time. so the question is, is paying that much morefor a better built machine still worth it? you seem to be saying no.
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the primary reason to get a Mac is for the OS and the feeling you get with the pretty apple on the case. Running windows on it (esp at that price point) would serve no purpose and be a bad investment.
 
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