Consensus reached on four team college football playoff

#51
#51
Agreed. 8 is the max unless the season is shortened, IMO. FCS has a 20-team playoff, but they play no more than 11 games in the season and don't have league title games. The SWAC has a title game but doesn't send its champion to the playoff. So, the most games a team can play in FCS is 16. FBS will be going to 15 (12+1+2).
 
#52
#52
I think it should be 8. Take the 5 "BCS" Champions, besides the Big East, thus making all divisional races important all season. Then, take the best champion out of all of the other leagues, be it Big East, MWC, or whatever. And, take two at-larges; that would allow an elite team who loses a conference title game to still get in. That part of it would be just like a cinderella winning a conference basketball tournament to "shrink the bubble."
 
#53
#53
So your against the 2 best teams settling it on the field ?

Oklahoma State blows out a top 10 team to win a conference championship while Bama sits at home because they couldn't win a kicking contest, meaning they didn't win a division, meaning they didn't even play for the conference title. That is usually enough for State to make a big swing upwards in the polls. Sorry, but if we are starting to reward title chances to teams that can't even win a division, the 2007 Georgia Bulldogs should start campaigning for a split title.
 
#54
#54
Oklahoma State blows out a top 10 team to win a conference championship while Bama sits at home because they couldn't win a kicking contest, meaning they didn't win a division, meaning they didn't even play for the conference title. That is usually enough for State to make a big swing upwards in the polls. Sorry, but if we are starting to reward title chances to teams that can't even win a division, the 2007 Georgia Bulldogs should start campaigning for a split title.

If Oklahoma State would have played & won a conference championship game then they would have gone the NC.
 
#55
#55
I think OSU should have been in the NC game as it was. But, if Bama winning that title is what it took to get us a playoff, then so be it.
 
#57
#57
The issue is that you couldn't definitively say Okie Lite was a better team than Bama, despite Bama not winning their division.

This is why we need a playoff.
 
#58
#58
Good. Shouldn't have been one in the first place.

Pretty stupid statement if you are actually interested in seeing the two best teams play. If you are just interested in seeing a team from another conference, then I can see how you would be upset.
 
#59
#59
This is the beginning of the end of what little college football used to mean. We are now FULLY entering into the age of pay to play. 4 teams will probably be 8 before the first playoff is done. All college players that even have an inkling that they can play pro will be gone in 1 year (from HS, not playing time). Believe me, the lawsuits will start as soon as someone can make a case that playing 15 - 16 games for 3 years will ruin their careers. Additionally, ESPN is already stating that there will be enough $$ generated from the playoffs that they will be able to pay the players. That is BS. Only a fraction of the AD programs in the country are in the black now. Money from TV revenue won't fix that for EVERY team in the FBS. That money will have to come out of AD budgets. I wonder when that starts, what sport will be the first to go from UT? We are already down to 8 and that includes "sports" such as golf, tennis, and cross country. Ask the guys on the golf team if they are willing to give up their Schollies to pay the football players? The BCS has worked since 98. If you want to complain about last year, complain about the voting polls, they are what put Bama in 2nd, the comp had them 3rd. And rightly so, Ok St couldn't have washed Bama or LSU's socks last year. I for one am against adding more games to the college schedule due to what it will do to the sport overall. I saw no where that the Big 12 was going to be penalized for only playing 12 games. So what if they "crown" a conference champ, they only play 12 games. That's one less game against a high caliber opponent, one less game to risk injury, and one less game to wear your players down. I don't want this to be a pro minor league. Heck, look at the dang pros at the end of their season, most of those guys are near death. This playoff BS and adding games will take college football to a one and done system just like Basketball.
 
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#60
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Oklahoma State blows out a top 10 team to win a conference championship while Bama sits at home because they couldn't win a kicking contest, meaning they didn't win a division, meaning they didn't even play for the conference title. That is usually enough for State to make a big swing upwards in the polls. Sorry, but if we are starting to reward title chances to teams that can't even win a division, the 2007 Georgia Bulldogs should start campaigning for a split title.

Bama won as many games in the reg season as OK St did. Didn't they both finish 11-1? The one game they lost they lost in OT. OK St lost to a good HS team. OK St had no claim to the NC game period.
 
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#61
#61
If by "working," you mean the BCS has created controversy nearly every season over who should be in the title game, then, yes, it's worked. Or, if by "working," you mean the BCS title game has pitted the teams ranked #1 and #2 in the BCS, then, yes, it's worked.

I am glad the BCS and college football, as we knew it, is gone forever.
Awesome day.

The regular season will be much more meaningful and sacred if we get an 8-team playoff. Winning a conference championship will mean something if it means an auto bid. And, there would be 2-3 at-large bids available for other elite teams.

Great times coming.
 
#62
#62
Bama won as many games in the reg season as OK St did. Didn't they both finish 11-1? The one game they lost they lost in OT. OK St lost to a good HS team. OK St had no claim to the NC game period.

If you base the argument on nothing but W/L record and whose loss was worse, than I must agree that OSU had no case.

But, OSU also beat all of the top teams on their schedule. Shouldn't that count for something?

I think both teams had a strong case. I think OSU should have been in the title game, not Bama. But, I'm glad Bama made it, because that was the spark plug we needed to get rid of the BCS and usher in a playoff.
 
#63
#63
Bama won as many games in the reg season as OK St did. Didn't they both finish 11-1? The one game they lost they lost in OT. OK St lost to a good HS team. OK St had no claim to the NC game period.

Unless, in the current system, you can definitively prove to me (hint: you can't) that Alabama was a better team than Okie Lite, your argument is baseless and worthless.

The only, only, only way to know what teams are the best is to prove it on the field.
 
#64
#64
Bama won as many games in the reg season as OK St did. Didn't they both finish 11-1? The one game they lost they lost in OT. OK St lost to a good HS team. OK St had no claim to the NC game period.

By that route, LSU shouldn't have been in it in 2007 since they lost to Kentucky of all teams
 
#65
#65
If you base the argument on nothing but W/L record and whose loss was worse, than I must agree that OSU had no case.

But, OSU also beat all of the top teams on their schedule. Shouldn't that count for something?

I think both teams had a strong case. I think OSU should have been in the title game, not Bama. But, I'm glad Bama made it, because that was the spark plug we needed to get rid of the BCS and usher in a playoff.

Why would OSU automatically get the bid over other 11-1 teams like Stanford?
 
#66
#66
Why would OSU automatically get the bid over other 11-1 teams like Stanford?

They wouldn't have gotten it "automatically."
But, OSU had a tougher schedule than Stanford and won a conference.

A greater debate, had there been a four-team playoff last year, would have been between Stanford and Oregon. Oregon beat Stanford and won the conference, but finished the regular season with two losses, to LSU and USC. Stanford only had the loss to Oregon. Do you take the 1-loss team over the 2-loss team and effectively penalize Oregon for scheduling LSU? Or, do you take the league champion and their two losses?
 
#68
#68
LOL. I was told that for years (not just on VN).
Now, if only they'd dump the bowl system for the semifinals.
 
#71
#71
Pretty stupid statement if you are actually interested in seeing the two best teams play. If you are just interested in seeing a team from another conference, then I can see how you would be upset.

If Bama is one of the two best teams in the country, they can prove it by playing Oklahoma State head to head.

Please tell me what is wrong with that idea.
 

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