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UT's#1Fan said:
NCAA College Basketball RPI Team Comparison - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and RPI Rankings

It allows you to compare teams' resumes.

It also shows each teams RPI and SOS, plus breaks down their wins/losses against teams ranked 0-50, 50-100, 100-200, 200+

When comparing UT to Miss. St., Tennessee actually has the better resume minus the RPI. We need Miss. St. to lose as many games as possible. It would help our case to be that 5th team if we don't win the SECT.
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It would be nice to play them in our first game if we get a bye.
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
NCAA College Basketball RPI Team Comparison - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and RPI Rankings

It allows you to compare teams' resumes.

It also shows each teams RPI and SOS, plus breaks down their wins/losses against teams ranked 0-50, 50-100, 100-200, 200+

When comparing UT to Miss. St., Tennessee actually has the better resume minus the RPI. We need Miss. St. to lose as many games as possible. It would help our case to be that 5th team if we don't win the SECT.
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Don't worry man. Mississippi State will always be Mississippi State. They do a better job of beating themselves than anyone else can this time of the year. :)
 
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We have more teams than MSU to worry about.

Why do people think the 5th best team in the SEC will automatically get an invite?

:horse:
 
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we're competing against:
Miss St
Texas
Northwestern
Miami
Arizona
Xavier
Colorado St
VCU
South Florida
St Josephs
Dayton
Oregon
NC State
Illinois
 
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golfballs03 said:
We have more teams than MSU to worry about.

Why do people think the 5th best team in the SEC will automatically get an invite?

:horse:
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Because the SEC is most likely only getting 5. So if miss st is considered in, it will be very hard for another SEC team to make the committee consider inviting a 6th.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Because the SEC is most likely only getting 5. So if miss st is considered in, it will be very hard for another SEC team to make the committee consider inviting a 6th.
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I think he is saying that we shouldn't just assume that the SEC is going to get 5 teams without regard to the resume of that fifth team. The SEC may only get 4 teams. It's happened before. Just because Tennessee might beat out MSU for fifth best team in the SEC doesn't mean Tennessee is automatically getting a spot in the tourney.
 
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to be honest the comparisons right now arn't in our favor... we need to do ourselves a favor and win 3 more in a row for sure
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think he is saying that we shouldn't just assume that the SEC is going to get 5 teams without regard to the resume of that fifth team. The SEC may only get 4 teams. It's happened before. Just because Tennessee might beat out MSU for fifth best team in the SEC doesn't mean Tennessee is automatically getting a spot in the tourney.
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If Tennessee wins the next 3 their resume is plenty good enough to get in. However, if miss st wins their next 4, we may have a hard time getting in.

That's all I'm saying, is Miss St losing helps us, IMO.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If Tennessee wins the next 3 their resume is plenty good enough to get in. However, if miss st wins their next 4, we may have a hard time getting in.

That's all I'm saying, is Miss St losing helps us, IMO.
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I'm not arguing otherwise. Just saying that I believe you misunderstood the intent of what he was trying to say.

Your point is valid that if the SEC, does in fact, get five teams in and Tennessee and Mississippi St continue to win, they will be competing for that final spot.

I'm just saying that there is no magical, automatic fifth spot reserved for the SEC, and I believe that is what golfballs is saying.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I'm not arguing otherwise. Just saying that I believe you misunderstood the intent of what he was trying to say.

Your point is valid that if the SEC, does in fact, get five teams in and Tennessee and Mississippi St continue to win, they will be competing for that final spot.

I'm just saying that there is no magical, automatic fifth spot reserved for the SEC, and I believe that is what golfballs is saying.
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Oh ok gotcha.
 
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miss st should beat arky. i still don't see how we get in with 19 wins. if we are the 2 seed, we would have to beat ky in the finals to have 20 wins for the ncaa, and i don't see us beating ky on a neutral floor. we have 16 wins now and will have 17 after sat. it takes us winning the tourney to get to 20 wins, right ? :ermm:
 
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Conferences don't get bids; teams do. If Tennessee can win their way into the tournament, then that won't affect a team like Mississippi State except for the fact that one more slot would be filled. The Committee doesn't sit and think, "Hm. We've already given the SEC five bids. Tennessee's a deserving team, but we should give the bid to a less deserving team out of -insert conference here-."

As for the resume, Tennessee's best WINS compare nicely to just about every team on the bubble... And they even compare nicely to some teams solidly in the tournament. The question is those early season losses. With a win versus Vanderbilt and maybe one or two games in the SECT, they would be hard to ignore.
 
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sdowell said:
miss st should beat arky. i still don't see how we get in with 19 wins. if we are the 2 seed, we would have to beat ky in the finals to have 20 wins for the ncaa, and i don't see us beating ky on a neutral floor. we have 16 wins now and will have 17 after sat. it takes us winning the tourney to get to 20 wins, right ? :ermm:
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Barring a conference championship, Tennessee's chances are slim. We need Miss St to fall on their face, we need teams predicted to win their conference's to win them and not steal at-large bids, and most of all, we need to win out to the championship game and hopefully beat our opponent for the championship and remove all doubt, or lose to UK, which will still help our RPI.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Barring a conference championship, Tennessee's chances are slim. We need Miss St to fall on their face, we need teams predicted to win their conference's to win them and not steal at-large bids, and most of all, we need to win out to the championship game and hopefully beat our opponent for the championship and remove all doubt, or lose to UK, which will still help our RPI.
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What Mississippi State does doesn't affect what Tennessee does. Tennessee's best chance is just to keep winning and improving its own profile.
 
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GatorsGators said:
What Mississippi State does doesn't affect what Tennessee does. Tennessee's best chance is just to keep winning and improving its own profile.
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Yeah it does. They are a competing team for an at-large spot in the tourney, same as us. Same for Texas, Arizona, etc. How do they not affect our chances?

Mississippi State just happens to be in our conference, so it makes it easier to notice Tennessee as a candidate if they are not fighting for a spot with another member in their conference.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Barring a conference championship, Tennessee's chances are slim. We need Miss St to fall on their face, we need teams predicted to win their conference's to win them and not steal at-large bids, and most of all, we need to win out to the championship game and hopefully beat our opponent for the championship and remove all doubt, or lose to UK, which will still help our RPI.
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i still think we will have to have 20 wins to get in. hope i'm wrong
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yeah it does. They are a competing team for an at-large spot in the tourney, same as us. Same for Texas, Arizona, etc. How do they not affect our chances?

Mississippi State just happens to be in our conference, so it makes it easier to notice Tennessee as a candidate if they are not fighting for a spot with another member in their conference.
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Yes, they are competing for a spot in the same tournament. However, it doesn't mean that if Mississippi State won a few games Tennessee would be less likely to get a bid. Tennessee's best chance at getting an at-large bid is continuing this winning streak. Fans really shouldn't be concerned about other bubble teams (although all of the conference favorites winning does help).

Actually, Mississippi State winning would only help Tennessee's profile. The stronger the SEC is the better for Tennessee, and all other bubble teams in the conference.
 
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GatorsGators said:
Yes, they are competing for a spot in the same tournament. However, it doesn't mean that if Mississippi State won a few games Tennessee would be less likely to get a bid. Tennessee's best chance at getting an at-large bid is continuing this winning streak. Fans really shouldn't be concerned about other bubble teams (although all of the conference favorites winning does help).

Actually, Mississippi State winning would only help Tennessee's profile. The stronger the SEC is the better for Tennessee, and all other bubble teams in the conference.
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This is what he's saying. If there is 1 at large bid left, and you have Tennessee and Miss st being considered then obviously we want our resume to be better.

If they win their next 3 and we win our next 3, they would get the last bid, not us.

It has nothing to do with it being our conference, as said though, it's just easy to see and keep tabs on.
 
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