Coronavirus may have cracked the telecommuting code

[FLVOL_79]

This would drive me nuts.

What you get is a lot of other people having to pick up the slack of the bad workers. Same thing happens when private companies tout their inclusion statistics versus performance.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

The work from home trend could ultimately be problematic in the future for Republicans in traditionally red states. There are a lot of blue voters in population centers like NYC or silicon valley who now can move to low/no tax locales like Austin, Nashville, or Miami due to the ability to telecommute. Twitter already announced their workers are not returning to their campus because it made business sense for them to work from home. Why would those employees continue to live in exorbitant real estate markets with crazy tax rates when they can buy homes for a fraction of the cost in a low tax State? The saving grace may be the inability to sell homes in those areas. I would think this would soften the market dramatically in some areas.

It could also change the way companies recruit and develop talent. Applicants no longer have to live a commutable distance from the office. Companies could possibly look beyond state and even national borders to fill positions.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We’re going to leave here. No reason to deal with the high taxes and Democrat policies if there is no office to go to. We will be out by the end of the year hopefully. Already shopping around elsewhere. The plan is to cancel out LG and Septic’s votes.

That open's up another question. If you move, will your employer in the old state you lived in still have to withhold state income taxes even if you move to Florida?

And if they do not withhold income taxes, how long before these high tax states start to address that?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Obviously this doesnt apply to blue collar guys like myself....

But traffic has been cut down by AT LEAST 25% here in Charlotte since the virus hit. Maybe some of these folks will continue to work from home and traffic wont be as bad..

Same with me. I really don't have an office, but I do have to show up at various sites to do projects. Hopefully, this has an impact on future highway projects and spending.

 

[DC_Vol]

That open's up another question. If you move, will your employer in the old state you lived in still have to withhold state income taxes even if you move to Florida?

And if they do not withhold income taxes, how long before these high tax states start to address that?

You pay state taxes based on where you live.

Im this particular case, I would guess it will come in the next 20 years. New York and New Jersey residents continue to flee the high tax states where they live. Yet most of them continue to vote the same way they did in New York or New Jersey....

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You pay state taxes based on where you live.

Im this particular case, I would guess it will come in the next 20 years. New York and New Jersey residents continue to flee the high tax states where they live. Yet most of them continue to vote the same way they did in New York or New Jersey....

Is that necessarily true? I was thinking that people that lived in Chattanooga, but worked in GA still had to pay GA income tax, for example. I could be wrong though.

 

[hog88]

Is that necessarily true? I was thinking that people that lived in Chattanooga, but worked in GA still had to pay GA income tax, for example. I could be wrong though.

It’s where you physically work. Technically my wife’s office is in Queens and we damn sure don’t pay NYC taxes.

 

[DC_Vol]

Is that necessarily true? I was thinking that people that lived in Chattanooga, but worked in GA still had to pay GA income tax, for example. I could be wrong though.

I believe if you are traveling to an office to work, you pay based on where the office is. If you work remote, you pay based on where you live.

Because so many people cross state lines for work In this area, MD VA and DC have a reciprocity agreement that you pay taxes where you live. Perhaps GA and TN do not have that.

I’m not an accountant so this might help:

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/i-work-remotely-for-a-company-in-another-state-from-whom-i-received-a-1099-misc-do-i-pay-taxes-to/00/108219

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’m not an accountant so this might help:

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/i-work-remotely-for-a-company-in-another-state-from-whom-i-received-a-1099-misc-do-i-pay-taxes-to/00/108219

This kind of explains it.

"As an individual taxpayer, you only have to file a tax return in a state where you are either physically living, or working, or where you may happen to travel and receive taxable income (we'll explain that below). But your short answer is that no, you don't need to file a tax return or pay taxes in the state where your company is located or headquartered. You only have to file and pay taxes in your home state of residence (where you are working for your employer remotely). Please let us explain further.

Actually, it doesn't matter where you employer is located, as far as your personal income taxes are concerned. Your employer could be from California, New York, or Paris (France), for that matter. For your personal taxes, the only relevant factors are where your legal residence is (called "domicile" in the tax jargon), where you work, and from where you may receive income. An example here will be illustrative.

Let's say a woman lives in Idaho, drives to work every day for a job in Montana, but her company is based in Colorado. On a vacation, she travels to Louisiana and wins money there at a gambling casino. She also owns a rental house in Oregon. In this (hypothetical) set of circumstances, this taxpayer would have to file a state tax return in Idaho (home state), Montana (because she worked there), Louisiana (because she received taxable gambling winnings from a casino there), and Oregon (because she has an income-earning rental house there). But, notice that she does not have to file a Colorado state return, even though her company is there. The reason for this is that she has no Colorado "nexus" for tax purposes."

I think in your case and hog's case, your "office" or work location is in one state but is probably headquartered in another. The location of the actual work site is where you get taxed. In the case I'm more familiar with, I knew people that worked in the Dalton carpet mills that lived in Tennessee. They had to pay GA income tax because that is where their work location was.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Right. Jenny Gave him the AIDS he had in Philadelphia.

If John Coffey were still alive he could absorb the sickness, but he done walked the Green Mile.

Jenny didn't give him the AIDs. It started much sooner than that...

 

[Purple Tiger]

That open's up another question. If you move, will your employer in the old state you lived in still have to withhold state income taxes even if you move to Florida?

And if they do not withhold income taxes, how long before these high tax states start to address that?

Cross state income taxes are a big stinking mess. In HRIS payroll systems, there is a page or section for federal, state and local tax information. The systems are pre-loaded with tax information. If you entered FL or TN as the state of legal residence, no state income taxes would be withheld. There are some states and localities that require taxes to be withheld based on the location of your workplace. If you work in KY but live in TN, KY state tax would be withheld and you would have to file an out-of-state return to get your money back.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The Future of Remote Work, According to Startups

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

This had to be a Boomer boss. A 6 minute meeting? wow...

More Workers Are Quitting Their Jobs Instead Of Returning To The Office | ZeroHedge

A six-minute meeting drove Portia Twidt to quit her job.

She’d taken the position as a research compliance specialist in February, enticed by promises of remote work. Then came the prodding to go into the office. Meeting invites piled up.

The final straw came a few weeks ago: the request for an in-person gathering, scheduled for all of 360 seconds. Twidt got dressed, dropped her two kids at daycare, drove to the office, had the brief chat and decided she was done.

"I had just had it," said Twidt, 33, who lives in Marietta, Georgia.

With the coronavirus pandemic receding for every vaccine that reaches an arm, the push by some employers to get people back into offices is clashing with workers who’ve embraced remote work as the new normal.

 

[hog88]

This had to be a Boomer boss. A 6 minute meeting? wow...

More Workers Are Quitting Their Jobs Instead Of Returning To The Office | ZeroHedge

A six-minute meeting drove Portia Twidt to quit her job.

She’d taken the position as a research compliance specialist in February, enticed by promises of remote work. Then came the prodding to go into the office. Meeting invites piled up.

The final straw came a few weeks ago: the request for an in-person gathering, scheduled for all of 360 seconds. Twidt got dressed, dropped her two kids at daycare, drove to the office, had the brief chat and decided she was done.

"I had just had it," said Twidt, 33, who lives in Marietta, Georgia.

With the coronavirus pandemic receding for every vaccine that reaches an arm, the push by some employers to get people back into offices is clashing with workers who’ve embraced remote work as the new normal.

Her name fits her.

 

[LouderVol]

This had to be a Boomer boss. A 6 minute meeting? wow...

More Workers Are Quitting Their Jobs Instead Of Returning To The Office | ZeroHedge

A six-minute meeting drove Portia Twidt to quit her job.

She’d taken the position as a research compliance specialist in February, enticed by promises of remote work. Then came the prodding to go into the office. Meeting invites piled up.

The final straw came a few weeks ago: the request for an in-person gathering, scheduled for all of 360 seconds. Twidt got dressed, dropped her two kids at daycare, drove to the office, had the brief chat and decided she was done.

"I had just had it," said Twidt, 33, who lives in Marietta, Georgia.

With the coronavirus pandemic receding for every vaccine that reaches an arm, the push by some employers to get people back into offices is clashing with workers who’ve embraced remote work as the new normal.

My bosses are desperate for people to work from the office. They all seem to be of the opinion that nothing happens if they dont physically oversee it themselves. This is after we had our most profitable year by percentage.

 

[utvolpj]

My bosses are desperate for people to work from the office. They all seem to be of the opinion that nothing happens if they dont physically oversee it themselves. This is after we had our most profitable year by percentage.

We are definitely being pushed back in the office. Locals must do at least 2 days in each week. Just applied with a new company and they also verified I would be willing to come in. I personally like going in but do realize many don't anymore

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Meanwhile, on the other side of the spectrum...

Deutsche Bank Orders Bankers Back To The Office After Labor Day | ZeroHedge

 

[AshG]

This had to be a Boomer boss. A 6 minute meeting? wow...

More Workers Are Quitting Their Jobs Instead Of Returning To The Office | ZeroHedge

A six-minute meeting drove Portia Twidt to quit her job.

She’d taken the position as a research compliance specialist in February, enticed by promises of remote work. Then came the prodding to go into the office. Meeting invites piled up.

The final straw came a few weeks ago: the request for an in-person gathering, scheduled for all of 360 seconds. Twidt got dressed, dropped her two kids at daycare, drove to the office, had the brief chat and decided she was done.

"I had just had it," said Twidt, 33, who lives in Marietta, Georgia.

With the coronavirus pandemic receding for every vaccine that reaches an arm, the push by some employers to get people back into offices is clashing with workers who’ve embraced remote work as the new normal.

I've been really lucky to have supervisors who live by "Could this meeting be an email?".

Also, Zoom meetings from home are much better because you can hide scotch in your coffee mug much more easily.

 

[Ttucke11]

My wife's position is going full work from home. They had a plan to have everyone back by 2022, but it seems they received poor feedback and decided against it.

 

[Vol737]

I've been really lucky to have supervisors who live by "Could this meeting be an email?".

Also, Zoom meetings from home are much better because you can hide scotch in your coffee mug much more easily.

Whatever makes you more productive @AshG, I say go for it.

 

[hog88]

About 1/2 our office staff have been working from home since last spring without much problem but I can see some starting to crop up. 1 is now babysitting a grandchild and he production is slipping, another posts stuff on FB during the workday about where she's at and what she's doing. Seeing more and more of this so we're going to start bringing them back into the office. It will be gradual but it needs to be done, not everyone has the discipline to work from home.

 

[golfballs]

My company got a big tax incentive to move to the town it’s currently headquartered in and that deal had stipulations on employees being present so the town can collect income tax from them. Most of the employees don’t live in the town. I think they’re under pressure to bring more people back into the office