Could the next 2 games decide Manning vs Brady debate?

If the Colts had not drafted Manning they would probably be in LA right now and that beautiful football stadium would not exist. Savior is probably the correct term.

I wasn't arguing that Manning wasn't a franchise savior, in fact just the opposite. I was just saying you definitely can't judge a guys full career potential based on him having an average rookie year.
 
I wasn't arguing that Manning wasn't a franchise savior, in fact just the opposite. I was just saying you definitely can't judge a guys full career potential based on him having an average rookie year.

My blind Manning support makes recognizing nuance impossible. Have I posted that I think he is better than Brady yet? I'll meet you at the Crompdaddy thread. I am with you there.
 
ESPN just published a lengthy article (What if Peyton Manning and Tom Brady had traded places - ESPN) which explores this hypothetical question: "How would NFL history have been different if Manning had gone to the Patriots and Brady had worn a Colts jersey before a rebirth in Denver?" The author, Greg Garber, does not take a definitive stance but does present the perspectives of "more than a dozen NFL aficionados, including a two-time Super Bowl coach, a Heisman Trophy winner, a pair of Hall of Famers plus former teammates and league officials and analysts."

Understandably, some responses were provided on the condition of anonymity while others went on record with clearcut opinions. Some of the most interesting perspectives include the following:

Ty Law, who played with Brady for five years, stated: "In the beginning, we weren't expecting Tom to play well. The defense just told him, 'We got this. Just don't turn the damn ball over.' I think if Tom's on the other side, we would have shown him what defense was. Peyton would have more support on our team and that would have leveled the playing field. We had so many leaders, particularly on defense. Tom didn't have that pressure to lead. On our team, Peyton would have relaxed a little bit more."

One emphatic, but anonymous, observer concluded, "Peyton the Patriot gets five Super Bowls rings. Four at the worst, six at best. Brady maybe doesn't get any without Belichick." "Wrong," said another. "Brady doesn't throw four picks in the 2003 championship game. The Colts win with him in there. Give them both two rings. Hey, maybe Brady gets three if he beats the Saints in the Super Bowl."

One panel member wondered, "What's the count right now, Brady three, Manning one? I'd say it would be exactly the opposite."

In any event, enjoy the article and let the debate commence yet again.
 
Football is a team sport. Peyton would have won his ring last year except for the Denver D giving away a big play late that should have never happened. The bad news is the Denver D almost let da Bolts get them last week when once again late in the game they got hit for a big play late that should have never happened. HOPEFULLY, they got it out of their system this playoff season and Peyton can do his thing.
 
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One panel member wondered, "What's the count right now, Brady three, Manning one? I'd say it would be exactly the opposite."
Agreed
 
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