COVID Relief Package

#52
#52
Boca Vol said:
How is $1400 seriously going to help anyone in the long run? It might make a rent payment, but if you're already in the hole you're going to be right back there in a few weeks. But people love free stuff no matter the cost!
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Bra..new TV! New Phone! New Laptop! New Jordans! Drugs! Some Cristal! Some rims! A new exhaust! A crate of cigarettes'!! Ah man, its gonna light the economy on FIRE in ways the Trump relief package could never have dreamed of!!!

DEAN SCREAM!!
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#54
utvolpj said:
It's going to be wasted like the others. Open the economy and there will be less damage than this ridiculous money printing exercise
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What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
 
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#55
lawgator1 said:
What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
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That's because you live in a state governed by Ron DeSantis and not Gavin Newsom or Andrew Cuomo.
 
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#56
lawgator1 said:
What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
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You live in Florida, so like Tennessee everything for the most part is open. The sad thing is people from the **** states are moving to our states in record numbers to buy a house for 25 cents on the dollar and tell us how stupid we are because back home they did a different way. They wave of democrats is going to destroy every conservative state within 20 years.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
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@lawgator1 you obviously work in a small office with limited corporate clients. My company is still alternating employees in a week and out. Half my industrial customers have to get VP or higher approval to get visitors inside the gate, and good luck if that visitor is from out of state. With engineers working from home the plants are still running but limited capital projects and things are starting to break....and these are essential businesses that if they go down lives will drastically change and lives might be lost. So open means no more limits on travel, and movement. The garbage coming from our government health care about mask and closing bars and restaurants has proven to be useless.
 
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#58
lawgator1 said:
What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
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Travel, concerts, sports, restaurants, bars, nightclubs, schools, etc. What isn't still closed in many parts of the US?
 
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#59
VolStrom said:
You live in Florida, so like Tennessee everything for the most part is open. The sad thing is people from the **** states are moving to our states in record numbers to buy a house for 25 cents on the dollar and tell us how stupid we are because back home they did a different way. They wave of democrats is going to destroy every conservative state within 20 years.
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Ok, that's not specific.

People seem to be saying that there is some widespread shut down going on that is continuing to retard economic recovery and I just want to know what they mean when they say that. Yes, of course restaurant restrictions in specific areas certainly hurt those areas economically. But there seems little point in debating that zip code- by - zip code because then we are just back and forth on how bad the virus is in those areas, and what restrictions are going on.

So when people clamor for a national re-opening of the economy, I am just trying to understand what EXACTLY they mean.
 
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#60
utvolpj said:
Travel, concerts, sports, restaurants, bars, nightclubs, schools, etc. What isn't still closed in many parts of the US?
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The federal government isn't preventing travel (domestically anyway) or concerts. And its largely localities and private businesses that have grappled with sporting event,s or concerts, or bars. Schools are open in a lot of places. Again, I'm not talking about individual districts or areas that shut down for a time because of virus concerns.

I just feel like there is this mantra of "We need to re-open!" but then it turns out the federal restrictions are few and far between and when you get to the local level its oversimplistic to say its not open "enough."
 
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#61
Wireless1 said:
@lawgator1 you obviously work in a small office with limited corporate clients. My company is still alternating employees in a week and out. Half my industrial customers have to get VP or higher approval to get visitors inside the gate, and good luck if that visitor is from out of state. With engineers working from home the plants are still running but limited capital projects and things are starting to break....and these are essential businesses that if they go down lives will drastically change and lives might be lost. So open means no more limits on travel, and movement. The garbage coming from our government health care about mask and closing bars and restaurants has proven to be useless.
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Yeah...he will not address this one
 
#62
#62
lawgator1 said:
Ok, that's not specific.

People seem to be saying that there is some widespread shut down going on that is continuing to retard economic recovery and I just want to know what they mean when they say that. Yes, of course restaurant restrictions in specific areas certainly hurt those areas economically. But there seems little point in debating that zip code- by - zip code because then we are just back and forth on how bad the virus is in those areas, and what restrictions are going on.

So when people clamor for a national re-opening of the economy, I am just trying to understand what EXACTLY they mean.
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Look at the blue states like CA, IL and NY. Everyone of them has a heavy hand in keeping their economies closed like limiting school opening, limiting restaurants and in general keeping part of their economy closed. The state governments need to step back and stay out of the way and let business do it's thing and the virus do it's thing.
 
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#63
lawgator1 said:
The federal government isn't preventing travel (domestically anyway) or concerts. And its largely localities and private businesses that have grappled with sporting event,s or concerts, or bars. Schools are open in a lot of places. Again, I'm not talking about individual districts or areas that shut down for a time because of virus concerns.

I just feel like there is this mantra of "We need to re-open!" but then it turns out the federal restrictions are few and far between and when you get to the local level its oversimplistic to say its not open "enough."
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It's a concerted effort to shut it down. Biden is trying and the cdc is now passing federal laws around travel. Or maybe you're naive enough to think everyone during things down just came up with these very similar ideas on their own. That would be cute
 
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#64
utvolpj said:
It's a concerted effort to shut it down. Biden is trying and the cdc is now passing federal laws around travel. Or maybe you're naive enough to think everyone during things down just came up with these very similar ideas on their own. That would be cute
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Ah. Speculating more conspiracy stuff. K.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ah. Speculating more conspiracy stuff. K.
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If you are saying that a group of people are getting together to move toward a common goal, sharing that information with others inside their organization and disseminating it is a conspiracy the that'd be correct except the definition of conspiracy is:
noun

  1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
Only time will tell if it's harmful, not sure it's unlawful, but I don't see how it could be considered secret...... we know what they are doing
 
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#75
lawgator1 said:
What specific aspects need to be "opened" and EXACTLY how is that different from now? Be precise. Because other than restaurants in certain higher infection rate areas having to limit seating, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
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All sports are still making a big deal about this covid crap
 
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