Critique of Nico’s throwing motion

[GVF]

I recognize it's more about the number of students. But doesn't having a higher number of students increase the chances of finding talented kids to play?

There's plenty of large high schools with little P5 talent, and only marginally more FBS as a percentage of total HS football players with dreams of moving on. Reference how far off the concentration of talent drops when you fill the pipeline at P5, and even G5/6, schools. Look at the volume of small colleges in FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA that pick up all the leftovers. Even smaller schools pick up the occasional superstar that got overlooked.

Let's make some basic assumtions just to do some math. Let's say all schools are 50/50 male/female. Now in a school of say 500 kids, that 250 eligeable players and typically schools that size field about 30 players. That's 12% playing football. In a large HS of 5000, that's 2500 available boys for HS with rosters that average around 80. THat's only 4%.

As a local comparison, let's take Griffin HS, GA, and Valdosta. Both comparable sized high schools historically, but Valdosta is two, maybe three classes higher these days cause Griffin broke off and built a 2nd county HS. Valdosta is the #1 school in the country for state championships, around 27+. Griffin only has 1 and 1 tie all-time. And then consider all the HS talent the state has to recruit, and all the large metro atlanta schools that are very competitive. Griffin is the only high school in GA ranked in the country at #40 for the number of HS alum that has played pro football. In a state that goes up to class 7 or 8. It's a 4A school that puts more players in the pros than any HS in the state and 40th in the entire country, and recently has had 4-5 in the NFL over the last 7+ years and one that went NFL to CFL. 2 or 3 are brothers, and the other two are brothers. all are sons of dads or uncles that played in the NFL from the same HS. One of the sons even plays for the same NFL team his dad spent his entire career with.

Hart County HS, GA, pumps out D1 college players on a regular basis and currently has 3 players at UNC (defensive starter), VT (starting RB), and ND (RS soph reserve TE). The TE had 19 P5 offers. They've sent playrs to AU, FSU, and others. It is only a 3A school.

Your assumption has credibility and it's completely sensible to think that, but it's not the rule. You can have a large school and access to unlimited D1 future talent. But, if the coach sucks, and he doesn't get the recruiters in to notice his players, they either go nowhere, or they quit cause it's a crap program. If you, your parents, or coaches don't get you noticed and videos in front of recruiters, it doesn't matter how good you are.

 

[lukeneyland]

If it’s good enough for Heupel it’s good enough for Tennessee. The man is a QB wizard

 

[butchna]

This isn't baseball. QBs rarely have significant non contact injuries to their throwing arms. They don't throw the ball nearly as often or near max velocity as often as baseball players do. This is absolutely NOT a big deal, at least at the college level. Now, needing cleaner mechanics for the NFL is another story, that's still more of a performance related concern than injury related.

Casey Clausen injured his in Spring practice of his freshman season (we called it “tired arm”). Never got his full strength back. Helluva career, imagine it with full capability. DeBord never claimed to be a QB guru but cleaned up some basic things with Dobbs like his base and leg width. Paid benefits. Minor details that were easily correctable were always going to be fine tuned by our in-house QB experts…Heupel and Halzle. This is outside noise.

 

[Carp]

Casey Clausen injured his in Spring practice of his freshman season (we called it “tired arm”). Never got his full strength back. Helluva career, imagine it with full capability. DeBord never claimed to be a QB guru but cleaned up some basic things with Dobbs like his base and leg width. Paid benefits. Minor details that were easily correctable were always going to be fine tuned by our in-house QB experts…Heupel and Halzle. This is outside noise.

As I said, it's rare.

Does he need help with his Mechanics? Sure. Every HS QB does. Even Arch Manning mechanics aren't flawless and look at his family.

 

[butchna]

As I said, it's rare.

Does he need help with his Mechanics? Sure. Every HS QB does. Even Arch Manning mechanics aren't flawless and look at his family.

That’s the entire subject matter. Not this REINVENTION narrative some VN posters transformed it into.