BeardedVol will always have the last say. I explained this to lilreb last week. BV will always win an argument for several reasons, including not engaging in a conversation that he's not educated on. He is very good, and very patient at turning the discussion around to where he wants it. He is more stubborn than anyone I know. He will ignore any point made that is against him. He has never admitted he was wrong. That I know of and I've followed many discussions he was involved in.
He's very good at what he does. What he does is dishonest, but it's a message board.