Cuonzo's philosophy on minute distribution

#51
#51
Here is a source for the Pistons stats:
2003-04 Detroit Pistons Roster and Statistics | Basketball-Reference.com

It is pretty clear that they had a basic 7 man rotation and some guys got minutes otherwise. Their starters averaged between 30-35 minutes a game (about the proportions CCM is talking about here) and this was a team that won 2x as many games as they lost and were first in the league in scoring defense which means they were active minutes not passive ones.
 
#52
#52
VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
You do realize that the reason we didn't have good talent was because of Pearl's recruiting, right.
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I think Harris was the number one player at small forward. I believe Hopson and Harris were hs all americans. Pearl has brought in more talent than any coach in UT history. You really need to try to be more factual if you are going to post.
 
#55
#55
jliehr said:
Martin typically ran a 6-8 man rotation at Missouri State, and he didn't like to use redshirts much either. He does have a tendency to put players in his dog house if he doesn't feel they're giving 100% in each and every practice.

It shouldn't be a problem with Tennessee and the more athletic players, but his teams really struggled with ball screens and giving up layups sometimes. His D doesn't force a lot of turnovers, but was very good at cleaning the glass on D. Martin runs at a slower pace typically with the shorter bench, and his teams valued the basketball having one of the best turnover rates in the country.
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Pearl was able to play a lot of players because he had a lot of players. I suspect Martin could not recruit well enough to have a deep roster. Bring back the black curtains. HA HA
 
#56
#56
jerryvol44 said:
I think Harris was the number one player at small forward. I believe Hopson and Harris were hs all americans. Pearl has brought in more talent than any coach in UT history. You really need to try to be more factual if you are going to post.
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Bringing in two McDs All-Americans in the last four years doesn't mean that Pearl left the cupboard stocked with talent. Look at who he brought in in the frontcourt for when Tobias goes pro.
 
#57
#57
jerryvol44 said:
Pearl was able to play a lot of players because he had a lot of players. I suspect Martin could not recruit well enough to have a deep roster. Bring back the black curtains. HA HA
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Ah, now I understand. You are:

A. Laughably ignorant
B. Not a Vol fan

This all makes sense now.
 
#59
#59
In my opinion the people who deny that Pearl was an exceptional, talented coach and who expect to see Martin come in and be as successful as Pearl are kidding themselves. I look forward to next season.
 
#60
#60
jerryvol44 said:
In my opinion the people who deny that Pearl was an exceptional, talented coach and who expect to see Martin come in and be as successful as Pearl are kidding themselves. I look forward to next season.
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Why? So you can see the black curtains that you have referenced in all your posts. You will be sorely disappointed.
 
#62
#62
jerryvol44 said:
In my opinion the people who deny that Pearl was an exceptional, talented coach and who expect to see Martin come in and be as successful as Pearl are kidding themselves. I look forward to next season.
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So you expect Tennessee to get worse, and you're looking forward to it.

Incipient said:
Ah, now I understand. You are:

B. Not a Vol fan
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I rest my case.
 
#63
#63
omghulkhands said:
I quoted for reference, I don't see where he states that 13 players averaged 10 minutes in a single game. It looks to me that it is based on a entire season
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Thank you for your support. and yes the stats I quoted were for entire season average minutes played per game.
 
#65
#65
patrick said:
Thank you for your support. and yes the stats I quoted were for entire season average minutes played per game.
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Too bad you're ignorant. Way too many invariables to use avg. minutes as a blanket stat for an entire season. Starters could be out 2 weeks inflating his backup's minutes for example.

Watch basketball! You bunch of geeks and your "stats". Watch the F'n games! Your stats mean nothing if you don't understand the game.

Please start a thread the next time a championship team checks in 4 players at the dead ball. That is gimmick basketball. Gimmicks don't win trophies.
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#66
#66
bamacheats said:
Too bad you're ignorant. Way too many invariables to use avg. minutes as a blanket stat for an entire season. Starters could be out 2 weeks inflating his backup's minutes for example.

Watch basketball! You bunch of geeks and your "stats". Watch the F'n games! Your stats mean nothing if you don't understand the game.

Please start a thread the next time a championship team checks in 4 players at the dead ball. That is gimmick basketball. Gimmicks don't win trophies.
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You mean like in hockey?
 
#67
#67
09-10 Lakers - 10 players average 9 + mins

08-09 Lakers - 11 players average 11 + mins

07-08 Lakers - 10 + players average 17 + mins

06-07 Lakers - 11 players average 15 + mins

05-06 Lakers - 10 players average 11 + mins
 
#68
#68
patrick said:
09-10 Lakers - 10 players average 9 + mins

08-09 Lakers - 11 players average 11 + mins

07-08 Lakers - 10 + players average 17 + mins

06-07 Lakers - 11 players average 15 + mins

05-06 Lakers - 10 players average 11 + mins
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BS. 07-08 is the only anomaly. But still, the season has too many variables, playoffs win trophies and vast majority of all championship teams play about 8 players significant minutes. (significant = 20+)
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#69
#69
jerryvol44 said:
In my opinion the people who deny that Pearl was an exceptional, talented coach and who expect to see Martin come in and be as successful as Pearl are kidding themselves. I look forward to next season.
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If all you can do is get on here and troll constantly, then your life is pretty sad. I'd suggest a new hobby like lighting yourself on fire or jumping in front of a bus.
 
#70
#70
This is ridiculous. Seriously, any NBA coach would laugh their ass off reading these posts. The stats you're posting are so incredibly misleading.
 
#71
#71
patrick said:
09-10 Lakers - 10 players average 9 + mins
08-09 Lakers - 11 players average 11 + mins
07-08 Lakers - 10 + players average 17 + mins
06-07 Lakers - 11 players average 15 + mins
05-06 Lakers - 10 players average 11 + mins
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None of this has any relevance to college basketball.

NBA games are 48 minutes long, college games are 40. So there are 40 extra minutes per game available for NBA teams right off.

The NBA plays 82 games a year, plus up to 28 more in the playoffs. A team that wins the NBA championship will play close to three times the number of games that a college team will. Under those conditions, a coach of a contending NBA team (such as the Lakers) is not going to play his best players 40 minutes a night in what amounts to a glorified 82-game-long exhibition season. He's got 12 players, he's going to use all 12, even if he loses a few games for it. When the playoffs come around, then he'll shorten the bench, and only use his best players.
 
#72
#72
jsc1973 said:
None of this has any relevance to college basketball.

NBA games are 48 minutes long, college games are 40. So there are 40 extra minutes per game available for NBA teams right off.

The NBA plays 82 games a year, plus up to 28 more in the playoffs. A team that wins the NBA championship will play close to three times the number of games that a college team will. Under those conditions, a coach of a contending NBA team (such as the Lakers) is not going to play his best players 40 minutes a night in what amounts to a glorified 82-game-long exhibition season. He's got 12 players, he's going to use all 12, even if he loses a few games for it. When the playoffs come around, then he'll shorten the bench, and only use his best players.
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Thanks for doing this, so I didn't have to.
 
#74
#74
I think UT went too deep this year, but I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with going deep. It can certainly work.

[FONT=HELVETICA,ARIAL]Kentucky Men's Basketball Statistics [/FONT]

[FONT=HELVETICA,ARIAL]1995-96[/FONT]

[FONT=HELVETICA,ARIAL]Overall Record: 34-2 (NCAA Champions)[/FONT]

[FONT=HELVETICA,ARIAL]Conference Record: 16-0[/FONT]

[FONT=HELVETICA,ARIAL]Home/Away Record: 13-0 home, 8-0 away[/FONT]


Player G GS MIN MPG FG FGA Pct 3P 3PA Pct FT FTA Pct
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Delk, T 36 36 947 26.3 229 464 0.494 93 210 0.443 88 110 0.800
Walker, A 36 35 972 27.0 228 492 0.463 9 48 0.188 82 130 0.631
McCarty, W 36 32 889 24.7 152 280 0.543 28 60 0.467 75 104 0.721
Anderson, D 36 24 700 19.4 117 230 0.509 23 59 0.390 80 102 0.784
Mercer, R 36 13 675 18.8 107 234 0.457 23 68 0.338 51 65 0.785
Pope, M 36 6 731 19.8 96 197 0.487 17 46 0.370 73 107 0.682
Epps, A 36 24 809 22.5 70 163 0.429 43 105 0.410 58 71 0.817
Sheppard, J 34 1 434 12.8 65 125 0.520 22 44 0.500 36 58 0.621
Turner, W 35 8 458 13.1 65 122 0.533 1 4 0.250 25 40 0.625
Prickett, J 5 0 51 10.2 6 12 0.500 0 1 0.000 5 7 0.714
Edwards, A 35 1 325 9.3 37 80 0.463 7 23 0.304 34 46 0.739
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