D1 Baseball's Proposal for 72 field tournament

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BruinVol said:
They wouldn’t had any Option. Sorry but southern miss has an elite facility. It’s plenty good to host
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We have a different opinion of what elite facilities are then. So I still disagree. And that’s ok. Although we disagree, I still respect your opinion. Also, I’m not saying facilities need to be elite, but rather just to a certain and adequate standard in order to host.
 
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TigerMan said:
No. I don’t care about SEC fatigue bc it’s not the SEC’s fault that they invest heavily in athletics, win more championships, etc… That's not an elitist opinion. That’s just stating the facts. Those with SEC fatigue are just mad their programs don’t win more. It’s really that simple.

Yes, I’ve been to several college baseball venues, but not S Miss. And if the smaller programs don’t have the money to invest directly into their facilities, then they, in coordination with the NCAA, need to come up with a better plan to accommodate visiting teams for post season play. This should be done, if for nothing else, in the name of fair competition. And if it can’t be done, then they shouldn’t host. That’s my opinion.

In regards to your comments about LSU fans disparaging LNS, you should direct those comments to them. I have been nothing but respectful on this board. And quite honestly, I’m actually more supportive of Tenn’s baseball program than many that post here! Which is crazy to me!
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I’ve encountered numerous LSU baseball fans that are hypercritical of their program. Some of the most obnoxious fans on the planet (and some of the absolute best). Not sure why you don’t understand that LSU is one of the few baseball prograMs that have visitor locker rooms. What criteria did S Miss not have in order to host a Regional or Super??? Many say they have a top 35 -40 baseball stadium
 
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TigerMan said:
Bc I have little doubt that Tenn would have came up with better accommodations if they were to host.
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What the heck could TN have done with the few days notice that they were going to host? Build a better press box or visitor locker room?? S Miss was going to generate more revenue bc of their higher capacity and likely higher bid. They met or exceeded all NCAA qualifications to host. I think you’re just being purposely obtuse. Personally, I think LNS is nicer than S Miss but based on NCAA’s published criteria, I understand why S Miss hosted. I’d LOVE to see someone do a FOIA request and understand their bid vs TN’s. I suspect it was higher based on motivation to send retiring Coach out on a high note.
 
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taylorvol said:
What the heck could TN have done with the few days notice that they were going to host? Build a better press box or visitor locker room?? S Miss was going to generate more revenue bc of their higher capacity and likely higher bid. They met or exceeded all NCAA qualifications to host. I think you’re just being purposely obtuse. Personally, I think LNS is nicer than S Miss but based on NCAA’s published criteria, I understand why S Miss hosted. I’d LOVE to see someone do a FOIA request and understand their bid vs TN’s. I suspect it was higher based on motivation to send retiring Coach out on a high note.
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lol Now you’re just trying to insult me for the purpose of disagreeing. I’m not being obtuse about anything. This conversation was not about the current criteria for hosting. It was about the proposed change to 72 teams, which led to others voicing their opinions about what they would like to stay the same, and some changes they would like to see. I simply voiced my opinion that I’d like to see the criteria for hosting change. I wasn’t the only one, and I wasn’t the first either. Yet you chose to address my comments and not the others. Why? I’m guessing bc I’m fan of a different team. But whatever the case, I see no point in continuing the conversation at this point. We simply disagree.
 
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TigerMan said:
lol Now you’re just trying to insult me for the purpose of disagreeing. I’m not being obtuse about anything. This conversation was not about the current criteria for hosting. It was about the proposed change to 72 teams, which led to others voicing their opinions about what they would like to stay the same, and some changes they would like to see. I simply voiced my opinion that I’d like to see the criteria for hosting change. I wasn’t the only one, and I wasn’t the first either. Yet you chose to address my comments and not the others. Why? I’m guessing bc I’m fan of a different team. But whatever the case, I see no point in continuing the conversation at this point. We simply disagree.
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Nah, you’re short on facts yet again. My issue is you just never answered my questions with any relevant facts as to why S Miss shouldn‘t host postseason baseball. Comes across as elitist and shallow—especially considering you’ve never been there. I do think LSU is the best team money can buy but have tons of respect for Crews and Morgan and the tradition of the program.
 
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taylorvol said:
Nah, you’re short on facts yet again. My issue is you just never answered my questions with any relevant facts as to why S Miss shouldn‘t host postseason baseball. Comes across as elitist and shallow—especially considering you’ve never been there. I do think LSU is the best team money can buy but have tons of respect for Crews and Morgan and the tradition of the program.
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I have told you why, you just didn’t like my reason. I’m not short on any facts. Anytime a team has to wait under bleachers during a rain delay, passing money between a fence to get vending during a post season tourney, the facilities / accommodations are inadequate. You said they offered to take them back to the hotel. I have to believe CVT didn’t think that was the best option or he would have taken it. So under the bleachers is the best they can offer? While the home team sits comfortably in an air conditioned locker room? Yeah, you can have your opinion in which that situation is sufficient and fair. I’ll stick with mine that it’s not. Btw, I see you dodged the fact that you chose to call me out, but left the others alone who mentioned facilities being an issue they’d like addressed.
 
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TigerMan said:
I have told you why, you just didn’t like my reason. I’m not short on any facts. Anytime a team has to wait under bleachers during a rain delay, passing money between a fence to get vending during a post season tourney, the facilities / accommodations are inadequate. You said they offered to take them back to the hotel. I have to believe CVT didn’t think that was the best option or he would have taken it. So under the bleachers is the best they can offer? While the home team sits comfortably in an air conditioned locker room? Yeah, you can have your opinion in which that situation is sufficient and fair. I’ll stick with mine that it’s not. Btw, I see you dodged the fact that you chose to call me out, but left the others alone who mentioned facilities being an issue they’d like addressed.
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Nah, again wrong with the facts. S Miss offered their basketball locker room. Again, you don’t seem to comprehend that its extremely uncommon to have a visitors locker room in baseball. This is where you’re consistently wrong. Its not up to S Miss to feed TN. If kids wanted Chik fila (a private vendor), they had to pay for it. I brought you up bc you’re the only one that I’m aware of that mentioned that S Miss didn’t have adequate facilities to host in this thread. Then you double down on a misinformed take. You come across as entitled and elitist. I guess everyone should have facilities like Miss St and LSU. Geez…how out of touch with reality!
 
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taylorvol said:
Nah, again wrong with the facts. S Miss offered their basketball locker room. Again, you don’t seem to comprehend that it’s extremely uncommon to have a visitors locker room in baseball. This is where you’re consistently wrong. It’s not up to S Miss to feed TN. If kids wanted Chik fila (a private vendor), they had to pay for it. I brought you up bc you’re the only one that I’m aware of that mentioned that S Miss didn’t have adequate facilities to host in this thread. Then you double down on a misinformed take. You come across as entitled and elitist. I guess everyone should have facilities like Miss St and LSU. Geez…how out of touch with reality!
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No listen man, you can’t get over yourself and the whole “visitor locker room” talking point. Notice how I keep saying “facilities / accommodations”??? Or are you just ignoring that? It doesn’t have to be a visitors locker room! But if the host team has to throw the visitors under some bleachers during a rain storm, they shouldn’t host. Period. And I addressed your comment about S Miss offering up the basketball locker room, hotel, or whatever it was. Why didn’t CTV take them up on that offer? There must have been a reason for that right? Anyway, in the end, if you think I’m an entitled elitist bc I think a host team who throws visitors under some bleachers during a rain storm is inadequate for a host during the NCAA baseball tourney, then so be it! It’s comical at best! And quite honestly, that makes much of your own fanbase entitled elitist as well, bc many agree with me.
 
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taylorvol said:
Nah, you’re short on facts yet again. My issue is you just never answered my questions with any relevant facts as to why S Miss shouldn‘t host postseason baseball. Comes across as elitist and shallow—especially considering you’ve never been there. I do think LSU is the best team money can buy but have tons of respect for Crews and Morgan and the tradition of the program.
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Let’s address the “best team money can buy” comment! Makes me chuckle every time I read it on here! So let’s say the Vols won the NC this year. Would they then be the best team money can buy? Bc Tenn definitely bought players as well! A lot of teams did. So what if one of them won the NC? Would they get that label as well? Or is it just LSU, and no other team that used NIL to help acquire players? I think many here are just upset that LSU had a bigger budget to land better players.
For the record, I hate the way NIL has been handled to date. I’m not opposed to players making money, but not under the seemingly lawless Wild West NIL system we currently have. However, this is the game right now. So teams either need to get with it, or get left behind.
 
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TigerMan said:
No listen man, you can’t get over yourself and the whole “visitor locker room” talking point. Notice how I keep saying “facilities / accommodations”??? Or are you just ignoring that? It doesn’t have to be a visitors locker room! But if the host team has to throw the visitors under some bleachers during a rain storm, they shouldn’t host. Period. And I addressed your comment about S Miss offering up the basketball locker room, hotel, or whatever it was. Why didn’t CTV take them up on that offer? There must have been a reason for that right? Anyway, in the end, if you think I’m an entitled elitist bc I think a host team who throws visitors under some bleachers during a rain storm is inadequate for a host during the NCAA baseball tourney, then so be it! It’s comical at best! And quite honestly, that makes much of your own fanbase entitled elitist as well, bc many agree with me.
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You are insufferable…S Miss offered up a viable option but you’d rather run with the narrative that they made us sit under bleachers. Go play on Tiger Droppings. What a name! Lol.
 
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TigerMan said:
Let’s address the “best team money can buy” comment! Makes me chuckle every time I read it on here! So let’s say the Vols won the NC this year. Would they then be the best team money can buy? Bc Tenn definitely bought players as well! A lot of teams did. So what if one of them won the NC? Would they get that label as well? Or is it just LSU, and no other team that used NIL to help acquire players? I think many here are just upset that LSU had a bigger budget to land better players.
For the record, I hate the way NIL has been handled to date. I’m not opposed to players making money, but not under the seemingly lawless Wild West NIL system we currently have. However, this is the game right now. So teams either need to get with it, or get left behind.
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We agree mostly on this. Griffin and Denton were super high character guys who fit in well. Maui was the only high profile guy and once the dust blew over, performed extremely well. LSU just brought a lot more and paid a lot more $$$$ for White, Skenes, Hurd, Cooper, and Little. Your Coach’s press conference pleading for more portal transfers comes across as pandering and slimey.
 
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taylorvol said:
You are insufferable…S Miss offered up a viable option but you’d rather run with the narrative that they made us sit under bleachers. Go play on Tiger Droppings. What a name! Lol.
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Why the insults man?! We’re just having a conversation, yet you keep the insults coming and act like your opinions (and they’re just opinions) are far superior. If anything, that’s what’s “insufferable.” There’s no need for that. I’m fine agreeing to disagree.
 
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taylorvol said:
We agree mostly on this. Griffin and Denton were super high character guys who fit in well. Maui was the only high profile guy and once the dust blew over, performed extremely well. LSU just brought a lot more and paid a lot more $$$$ for White, Skenes, Hurd, Cooper, and Little. Your Coach’s press conference pleading for more portal transfers comes across as pandering and slimey.
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Whether he comes across as slimey or not (and I strongly disagree that he does), he just won an NC. So, he’s doing something right. And it wasn’t pleading. It was recruiting. I hope he maintains what he’s created in a very short time.
 
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TigerMan said:
Why the insults man?! We’re just having a conversation, yet you keep the insults coming and act like your opinions (and they’re just opinions) are far superior. If anything, that’s what’s “insufferable.” There’s no need for that. I’m fine agreeing to disagree.
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Should have said acting insufferable—nothing personal. Now, i definitely know much more about UT baseball and S Miss than you do. that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact! 😃.
 
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TigerMan said:
Whether he comes across as slimey or not (and I strongly disagree that he does), he just won an NC. So, he’s doing something right. And it wasn’t pleading. It was recruiting. I hope he maintains what he’s created in a very short time.
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He inherited a strong nucleus and bought (ehhh, brought in) some key missing pieces. Even with that said, he caught lightning in a bottle landing Skenes. No way LSU wins without the one year rental.
 
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For the record, I like keeping baseball postseason as “regional“ as possible. I don’t want TN playing out West or in the NE during the postseason. Keep it regionalized to allow for as many fans as possible to travel. I would keep CWS in Omaha forever. They know how to host and are great at it!
 
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taylorvol said:
For the record, I like keeping baseball postseason as “regional“ as possible. I don’t want TN playing out West or in the NE during the postseason. Keep it regionalized to allow for as many fans as possible to travel. I would keep CWS in Omaha forever. They know how to host and are great at it!
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That’s an interesting take
I think seeding should be more about getting the seeds in order than saving the NCAA travel money

Imo tenn in no shape form or fashion should have gone to the Clemson regional
 
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BruinVol said:
That’s an interesting take
I think seeding should be more about getting the seeds in order than saving the NCAA travel money

Imo tenn in no shape form or fashion should have gone to the Clemson regional
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For me, it’s not about saving money for NCAA, it’s to grow the game by making it as easy as possible for fans to travel to see their respective teams play in the postseason. Clemson was an easy drive for most fans and an incredible venue.
 
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taylorvol said:
He inherited a strong nucleus and bought (ehhh, brought in) some key missing pieces. Even with that said, he caught lightning in a bottle landing Skenes. No way LSU wins without the one year rental.
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He doesn’t win the NC without the entire lineup. Right now, I’d venture to say that a portal class is more important than a high school class (or very close to it if not), simply bc of the experience that comes with it. I like seeing the foundation that a high school class can build, but the portal is a massive part of building a roster now. And you can call Skenes a rental, but he still wore the purple and gold and I’m damn glad he did!
 
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taylorvol said:
For the record, I like keeping baseball postseason as “regional“ as possible. I don’t want TN playing out West or in the NE during the postseason. Keep it regionalized to allow for as many fans as possible to travel. I would keep CWS in Omaha forever. They know how to host and are great at it!
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I agree with this.
 
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taylorvol said:
For me, it’s not about saving money for NCAA, it’s to grow the game by making it as easy as possible for fans to travel to see their respective teams play in the postseason. Clemson was an easy drive for most fans and an incredible venue.
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the natural state of college baseball power is going to make it Regional. I just think those teams seeded 17-22ish should be rewarded with playing the 11-16 seeds. I know it gets tricky with so many sec teams but I just don’t think the Clemson-tenn matchup was fair to either team
 
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BruinVol said:
the natural state of college baseball power is going to make it Regional. I just think those teams seeded 17-22ish should be rewarded with playing the 11-16 seeds. I know it gets tricky with so many sec teams but I just don’t think the Clemson-tenn matchup was fair to either team
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So your saying like an NCAA basketball tourney!!
 
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