Dale Jr.

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#28
Maybe he and Kyle B. will go on early vacation together since crybaby busch aint lookin like he's goin to chase any thing other than his ass.

That is , when he gets his own foot out of his ass . I wish he'd hung around long enough to have a real chat with Vickers , what a wuss !
 
#29
#29
Oh yeah, Vickers was a real big man with his helmet still on as he approached Kyle after the race on Saturday. He must've learned that one from his former teammate, Jiff.
 
#31
#31
I was hoping someone would ask him in one of the post-race interviews if he'd ever win a race without wrecking the leaders or having to rely on them running out of gas ahead of him. No such luck.
 
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doozer said:
he was trying to fight Kevin Harvick too?
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You're right because when Kyle acts like that he is just showing passion. He won't accept anything less than a win. If another driver does it than they're "one of the whinnest vaginas."

I love the double standard and hypocrisy there.
 
#36
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615 Vol said:
You're right because when Kyle acts like that he is just showing passion. He won't accept anything less than a win. If another driver does it than they're "one of the whinnest vaginas."

I love the double standard and hypocrisy there.
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where did anybody say any of these things in regards to this matter? the point is that Kevin Harvick wrote the book on crying like a child. all the others strive to reach his level.

i love the lack of reading comprehension and understanding there.

also, i can spell whiniest. can you?
 
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#37
#37
615 Vol said:
This is JPM's third full season so he had been to every track last season. If we dismiss JPM from the discussion than how do you explain the other 4 drivers I listed improving this season?

Have you watched Jr. drive this year? He is fighitng the steering wheel every week. How many times have the announcers pointed out that his car is loose and you see the tailend break loose? Part of that falls back on him if he can't give them the right information, sure but he has to have a car that he can drive to be competitive.

I pointed those guys out to say that with the right changes to the car one season from the next and having better luck can change the whole outlook.

I know Kurt Busch is a great driver but the DNF's killed him last year. Drivers can't always prevent wrecks and mechanical problems and Jr. is going through that this year.

I have a question for you. Since Dale Jr. made the chase just last year, did he lose that much talent over the course of one season?
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Dale Jr drives for by far the dominant team in NASCAR. Gordon and Johnson are 2nd and 3rd in points. Johnson has 3 straight championships. Mark Martin, who was written off by most everybody years ago, has the most wins in the series so far this year. Stewart-Haas, which is more or less a satellite Hendrick team, has taken two teams which were outside the top 35 last year, and has them both inside the chase as of now. The only Hendrick team which is not performing right now is the 88.

From 2000-04, with Tony Eury as his crew chief, Dale Jr had 15 wins. From 05-09, without Eury, he has 3 wins, with two of those being fuel mileage gambles. Without Eury, Dale Jr is mediocre.
 
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#38
And for arguments sake, in the first half of 2008 the 88 was the best HMS team on the track. They weren't winning races, hardly anyone was outside of Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards at the time, but they were at least up front every week leading laps and getting solid finishes. I believe Jr. had something like 12 top 10s in the first 16 races of '08, but only 8 or so in the 40+ races since then. Wild how quickly things can change.

Even with being virtually invisible for roughly the last calendar year, Dale Jr. still has as many wins in HMS equipment as Jeff Gordon since they've been teammates, which as a Gordon hater makes me laugh, even if he's obviously running a lot better than EJr.
 
#39
#39
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Dale Jr drives for by far the dominant team in NASCAR. Gordon and Johnson are 2nd and 3rd in points. Johnson has 3 straight championships. Mark Martin, who was written off by most everybody years ago, has the most wins in the series so far this year. Stewart-Haas, which is more or less a satellite Hendrick team, has taken two teams which were outside the top 35 last year, and has them both inside the chase as of now. The only Hendrick team which is not performing right now is the 88.

From 2000-04, with Tony Eury as his crew chief, Dale Jr had 15 wins. From 05-09, without Eury, he has 3 wins, with two of those being fuel mileage gambles. Without Eury, Dale Jr is mediocre.
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The day when everyone drives the same setup will make your argument valid.
 
#40
#40
doozer said:
where did anybody say any of these things in regards to this matter? the point is that Kevin Harvick wrote the book on crying like a child. all the others strive to reach his level.

i love the lack of reading comprehension and understanding there.

also, i can spell whiniest. can you?
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Maybe I misspelled "whiniest" but at least I know to start each sentence with a capitol letter, do you?

Speaking of lack of understanding, you said whiniest driver, everyone knows that is Kyle Busch. Please, tell me one issue out of Kevin Harvick this year that puts him at the top of your list.


Like I said before, your a hypocrite. If it's a driver you like, you like past it and make excuses for it then hammer someone else for doing the same thing.

"Oh, Kyle is just mad because he wants to win so bad." Oh, maybe the other drivers should care as much as Kyle." "I love it when Kyle acts like this." "Kyle is being REAL, he's not corporate like everyone else."

"Kevin Harvick is a crybaby." Brian Vickers is one of the whiniest vaginas in the garage." "Jeff Gordon needs to shut up and drive."

Nice double standard.
 
#41
#41
615 Vol said:
Maybe I misspelled "whiniest" but at least I know to start each sentence with a capitol letter, do you?

Speaking of lack of understanding, you said whiniest driver, everyone knows that is Kyle Busch. Please, tell me one issue out of Kevin Harvick this year that puts him at the top of your list.


Like I said before, your a hypocrite. If it's a driver you like, you like past it and make excuses for it then hammer someone else for doing the same thing.

"Oh, Kyle is just mad because he wants to win so bad." Oh, maybe the other drivers should care as much as Kyle." "I love it when Kyle acts like this." "Kyle is being REAL, he's not corporate like everyone else."

"Kevin Harvick is a crybaby." Brian Vickers is one of the whiniest vaginas in the garage." "Jeff Gordon needs to shut up and drive."

Nice double standard.
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first of all, i don't need mongoloids like yourself putting words in my mouth.

second of all, we're talking about the overall resume for drivers acting like douches. if Harvick spent as much time shooting his mouth off as he did on his racing career, he'd have multiple Cup championships. he's been rather calm this year because it's pretty hard to run your mouth when you can't even crack the top 20 in points. Kyle has a long way to go yet to reach Harvick levels.

third, i do like when Kyle acts the way he does because it pisses off the mouth breathers like yourself. does that mean i agree with it all the time? of course not, but it's certainly entertaining, especially to see dolts like yourself get all worked up over it.

fourth, tid said it best when he commented that he'd like to buy Vickers for what he's actually worth and sell him for what Vickers thinks he's worth. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you can figure out what he was getting at.

lastly, 9000+ posts have been started without a capital letter, consider it my style. just like misspellings, typos, mindless babble and not comprehending what you read is your style.
 
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#42
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doozer said:
first of all, i don't need mongoloids like yourself putting words in my mouth.

second of all, we're talking about the overall resume for drivers acting like douches. if Harvick spent as much time shooting his mouth off as he did on his racing career, he'd have multiple Cup championships. he's been rather calm this year because it's pretty hard to run your mouth when you can't even crack the top 20 in points. Kyle has a long way to go yet to reach Harvick levels.

third, i do like when Kyle acts the way he does because it pisses off the mouth breathers like yourself. does that mean i agree with it all the time? of course not, but it's certainly entertaining, especially to see dolts like yourself get all worked up over it.

fourth, tid said it best when he commented that he'd like to buy Vickers for what he's actually worth and sell him for what Vickers thinks he's worth. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you can figure out what he was getting at.

lastly, 9000+ posts have been started without a capital letter, consider it my style. just like misspellings, typos, mindless babble and not comprehending what you read is your style.
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Speaking of douches, everyone loves that guy that looks for spelling errors.

Everyone can see your posts and see the double standard you have for Kyle and the rest of the drivers. You prove it again in this post. Kyle needs to start by winning a championship before I'm concerned with his antics. Maybe he can be so lucky to have a loose wheel win him one like his brother.

Speaking of comprehending what people are saying, why bring up Vickers worth? I have not disputed what Tidwell said about his worth. This was about Kyle Busch being more of a whiner than Vickers.

Seriously, when was the last time Kevin Harvick acted like a douche? If ever he should act like one it would be this year. If running bad makes men out of "whining vaginas" than Kyle Busch should be a model citizen right now. Isn't that right? According to you, Harvick is on his best behavior because he can't crack the top 20 in points.

It looks like your style is to bite of other posters lines such as "dolts" and "mouth breathers." If I had a dollar for every time Hat used those terms I would be a rich man but I don't expect you to come original. What next, will you ask me to go play in traffic? Come on, you can come up with something on your own. The lower case thing (your style) is pretty gay but at least you came up with it. :birgits_giggle:
 
#43
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615 Vol said:
Everyone can see your posts and see the double standard you have for Kyle and the rest of the drivers.
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there's the lack of reading comprehension again.

doozer said:
third, i do like when Kyle acts the way he does because it pisses off the mouth breathers like yourself. does that mean i agree with it all the time? of course not, but it's certainly entertaining, especially to see dolts like yourself get all worked up over it.
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this is becoming painful. you really should stop.

also, please point me to the copyright laws about posting on internet message boards..
 
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#45
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doozer said:
there's the lack of reading comprehension again.



this is becoming painful. you really should stop.

also, please point me to the copyright laws about posting on internet message boards..
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http://www.volnation.com/forum/nascar/69334-kyle-busch.html

Yep, it looks like you have been real critical of Kyle when he acted like an ass. I never said that you agreed with him "all the time" but that doesn't mean you judge him the same way you do Kevin Harvick or any driver you don't like. You can pretend to be unbiased for the sake of this argument but past posting history suggest otherwise.


I don't have to work too hard to make my case. The other posters on here can see how obvious it is. You like the fact that Kyle gets under people's skin so he gets a pass but when someone YOU don't like does it than they're a "whining vagina".

As far as copyright laws on a message board, I never said anything about it. You can steal lines from posters all day long if you wish. It just doesn't have the same effect to see retreaded material on here.
 
#47
#47
615 Vol said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/nascar/69334-kyle-busch.html

Yep, it looks like you have been real critical of Kyle when he acted like an ass. I never said that you agreed with him "all the time" but that doesn't mean you judge him the same way you do Kevin Harvick or any driver you don't like. You can pretend to be unbiased for the sake of this argument but past posting history suggest otherwise.


I don't have to work too hard to make my case. The other posters on here can see how obvious it is. You like the fact that Kyle gets under people's skin so he gets a pass but when someone YOU don't like does it than they're a "whining vagina".

As far as copyright laws on a message board, I never said anything about it. You can steal lines from posters all day long if you wish. It just doesn't have the same effect to see retreaded material on here.
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i can see that this is really hard for you.
 
#48
#48
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
It makes my argument quite valid. Dale Jr can't get the job done without Tony Eury, no matter which team he's driving for.
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Or, again just for arguments sake, another way to say it is that he can't get the job done without a competent crew chief, which he hasn't had since Eury Sr.

He wasn't even the crew chief, but just look at how well the 88 ran in the first half of 2008 when Darian Grubb was heavily involved with the team and on top of the pit box every week holding Eury Jr.'s hand. Grubb left the pit box and went back to work more primarily at the 5/88 shop later in '08, and not so coincidentally that's when the 88 fell off the face of the Earth and still hasn't recovered.

Jr.'s blind and ridiculous loyalty to his cousin ("I'd rather lose with Tony Jr. than win with someone else") really burnt him here. He could've went to HMS and had Grubb as his crew chief, but instead he wanted to bring his cousin along with him. How's that worked out for ya, Jr.? Now you don't even get to "lose with your cousin" or win with someone else.
 
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