Dangerfield commits to UConn

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CD would have had to play on Cooper's shoulders.....WE did not need another pg.
Now a big post would be a plus.
 
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Connecticut doesn't win titles because of their post players. I wouldn't at all say that is the strength of that program.

We may not need Dangerfield, but we'd better start getting our act together on the court, and soon, or it will get tougher and tougher to get top players. We are already losing ground to southern schools that would never have taken a big-time recruit from us in the past. We need to start winning some big games, get to the Final Four, and we need Holly and her staff to show that they can coach with the big boys. Haven't seen that.
 
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GameTime said:
CD would have had to play on Cooper's shoulders.....WE did not need another pg.
Now a big post would be a plus.
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But according to the logic here we shouldn't even look at the top posts, since Russell was #1 in her class why would an elite center want to come and sit behind her for 3 years....?

Ridiculous...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Huh? Baylor had the top post player (maybe ever) for 4 years, how many titles did that get them?
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They also had the best point guard looks like coaching matters a little as well. This is the biggest concern with Holly I think she has enough talent especially in the 2015-2016 season.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
But according to the logic here we shouldn't even look at the top posts, since Russell was #1 in her class why would an elite center want to come and sit behind her for 3 years....?

Ridiculous...
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True PG's are singular on the court, whereas posts have played along side other posts their entire careers. I think that is the difference that most on here see.

I disagree with you on this, as you can see, but I do see you side. I just see a different mindset at different positions while recruiting. Wings & posts have more minutes available because of being able to play a couple of positions. As a true PG, no one wants to have to share limited minutes for three or four years. Two years would be my minimum.
 
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Real Info said:
True PG's are singular on the court, whereas posts have played along side other posts their entire careers. I think that is the difference that most on here see.

I disagree with you on this, as you can see, but I do see you side. I just see a different mindset at different positions while recruiting. Wings & posts have more minutes available because of being able to play a couple of positions. As a true PG, no one wants to have to share limited minutes for three or four years. Two years would be my minimum.
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Thanks. Responses like this are far more constructive than the condescending "you know nothing about recruiting" BS.....
 
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armchair said:
Connecticut doesn't win titles because of their post players. I wouldn't at all say that is the strength of that program.


Absolutely. Ct wins titles because they emphasize defense, and play team basketball. However, if you listen to Auriemma he believes that you can't win a NC without a great backcourt.
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Darth_Vol said:
If Holly didn't give her all in recruiting Dangerfield in trying to make her the centerpiece of the class, then she deserves all the criticism and then some. If Dangerfield grew up a UConn fan and it's her dream school that's another story, although that's still a pretty telling indictment on Holly in itself.

Fans can act blasé and shake it off like we didn't want her anyway all they want. Like I said, just wait until she's cutting down nets while Holly is at home in April....
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What's wrong with you? I honestly believe your primary purpose here is to criticize the coaching staff, and Holly in particular. Out of all your posts on this forum, by far most of them have been directed at blaming the coaching staff -- and Holly specifically -- for every perceived failure that you can possibly come up with. Absolutely NO ONE said that Holly and her staff did not give their all to recruiting Dangerfield. They gave their all to recruiting Cooper -- a point guard every bit as dynamic as Dangerfield -- but you give them no props for her commitment. That Dangerfield chose not to attend UT is no reflection on the coaching staff's lack of commitment to or discernment in bringing in elite talent; rather, it is a reflection of the reality that two elite, ridiculously talented point guards will, under any normal circumstances, NOT commit to the same school when they are only a year apart. Cooper committed first. Dangerfield looked elsewhere. What about that is difficult to understand?

You're also blaming Holly because Dangerfield considered UConn her "dream school" and ultimately chose to go there. Holly has been the head coach at UT for two seasons. Dangerfield was likely already looking at schools before Holly ever became the head coach. Holly couldn't force Dangerfield to want to attend UT if that's not something she ever really wanted to do. How is Dangerfield's personal preferences an "indictment" against Holly?

No one is blasé. Most people are simply realistic and not particularly interested in finding fault in every damn thing Holly Warlick says or does. The fact is, your motivations are pretty transparent. If you actually had anything of value to say, you'd be able to articulate specifically why you believe Dangerfield was such an absolute necessity for UT with Cooper on the way. Tennessee is already guard heavy. Cooper is just as good as Dangerfield. So why bash the coaching staff because Dangerfield decided to go somewhere where she likely wouldn't have to worry about limited or heavily shared minutes at the point guard position? Can you explain using some form of logic other than insisting that she should be at UT solely because "she's from Tennessee" ?
 
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Chris89128 said:
Dangerfield will play one year with Jefferson, her favorite player, btw and then she will be the starter. It's quite simple, from what I've read it seems that once Cooper committed TN was barely on Dangerfield's radar anymore
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Dangerfield is only a junior this year so she will be and incoming freshman to UCONN after Jefferson has graduated. But UCONN brought in 4 guards this year so she will be fighting for playing time there.
 
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reno tony said:
Dangerfield is only a junior this year so she will be and incoming freshman to UCONN after Jefferson has graduated. But UCONN brought in 4 guards this year so she will be fighting for playing time there.
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That's right and they are bringing in another highly touted pg in Kia Nurse for 2015....so I don't think saying dangerfield chose uconn because Tennessee already has cooper is very accurate. I do think it's a huge recruiting miss because as far back as I can remember we always got the top talent from Tennessee and Georgia, well until geno snatched maya...I think we will be fine recruiting wise, but with what uconn has now and what they have coming in, I wouldn't be surprised if geno ties or breaks john woodens nc record.
 
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My bad I forgot Dangerfield was a Junior this year. Clearly she chose UConn because that is where she wanted to go. Btw Kia Nurse was not impressive in the World Championships, I have a feeling Dangerfield will have a shot at a lot of playing time from the beginning
 
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If I am reading the TN roster correctly the team will have 7 guards in 2016 for CD's freshman year including a very good PG as a sophomore in Cooper. I doubt TN was all that concerned about trying to add another very good guard in the 2016 class and I am not surprised that a recruit would look at that number and say 'wow, that is really crowded' maybe I'll look elsewhere.
Durr - a phenomenal guard that seemed to be high on Uconn in the class of 2015, looked at 4 guards in the class of 2014 (Nurse is 2014 not 2015 BTW) as well as one each in each of the other classes, dropped Uconn from her list probably for the same reason.
I just don't see any reason for Vol fans to be upset about this - it is the natural progression of recruiting. Yes she is a TN girl and the first to choose Uconn, but the Vols didn't need her and she looked elsewhere.
One of my criticisms of Pat as a recruiter over the years was that she seemed to create log jams at the post/forward position - great to stockpile talent, but hard to develop players when they all play the same position and it can be disruptive to team chemistry if good players aren't getting enough game time.
 
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We recruited Dangerfield and the main problem is some want to act like Holly failed because she decided to go somewhere else. Every player has a mind and decides what is best for them and she liked UConn nothing wrong with that. We definitely needed her but we do have a fabulous point guard coming in Cooper. She rated a 98 on Hoopgurlz just like Dangerfield and having watched plenty of film on her know she will be the best point guard we have had here in many years.
Reynolds is developing into a good point guard as well and Middleton can play there. She led her high school team to a National Championship two season ago.
So point guard is the least of our problems and with Deshields, Nared, Me Me Jackson, Carter, Dunbar, and Tucker all with several years of eligibility guards and wing forwards are the least of our worries.
Were also supposed to be in good shape with Chassity Carter so were ok at point guard, two guard and the three. All the potential problems are at the post positions. I expect Mercedes will be a lot more mature and physically stronger after this redshirt season, Graves is back for another season after this one then there is no one. We really need to get a couple highly rated post players committed and then signed. This is the primary concern with this team.
 
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I think it should be considered that women's basketball has evolved greatly in the last couple of decades and there are many more elite players coming out of high school than 20 years ago. There are several elite point guards out there, but there are few 6'4" and taller skillful players, because only so many reach that height. Right now finding and recruiting the elite post is at a premium.
 
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Why she went is really irrelevant to be honest. It's one TN girl that chose another school (albeit one that used to be our bitter rival). It's really not the end of the world but the more we debate each other on here the more we look like sore losers to the UCONN fans. I wish her the best but hope the girls on our roster and the ones that do choose us kick their lil rear-ends! We have other needs for the future...let's hope Brown or Mompremiere or both are seeing Orange!
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Just amused at all these hollow rationalizations on why Dangerfield wasn't a huge recruiting loss....
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Articulate why you believe it was a "huge recruiting loss" with Te'a Cooper only one year ahead. Please keep in mind that both Cooper and Dangerfield are pure point guards. They are not combo guards or posts. Why do you believe Dangerfield was a "must get" when UT already has a commitment from Cooper, who in her own right is phenomenal? Why, in your opinion, is UT in such desperate need of Dangerfield's services? Are you unimpressed with Cooper's skills for some reason? I am in no way saying that Dangerfield isn't good or that she wouldn't have been good at Tennessee; I'm sure she would have been great at UT. But it is what it is. And what it is is UT is not particularly in need of another pure point guard right now; we need posts. Dangerfield is a loss, but she isn't anything close to a "huge" loss. A huge loss would have been if both Dangerfield and Cooper had both committed elsewhere. But Cooper picked UT, didn't she? Did you give Holly props for that win? Do you give the coaching staff props for anything? Or are you just here to complain?
 
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ivyleague said:
But Cooper picked UT, didn't she? Did you give Holly props for that win? Do you give the coaching staff props for anything? Or are you just here to complain?
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I might be wrong but didn't Cooper decomitt from UNC to join DeShields at Tennessee. Not sure you can credit any great recruiting by Warlick on that one.
 
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“I remember watching UConn and Tennessee play when I was seven and eight years old and I felt even then that UConn would be a great place to play,” Dangerfield said.

Sounds like Dangerfield committed to Connecticut some time back and finally verballed it this past weekend. To fault Warlick and this coaching staff is absurd. We are clueless to the messages that coaches receive from recruits verbally and nonverbally. Was the coaching staff supposed to refrain from pursuing Cooper or rescind its offer to Cooper at the risk of not winning over Dangerfield the following year? That wouldn't be a wise move considering we were all too recently suffering through point guard hell in our program. Seems like the staff might have passed on some prospects a few years ago while anticipating the arrival of Lauren Avant. And we know how ghastly it can be to see a reluctant 6-2 forward be converted to a point guard. I say take the first (and any) dynamite point guards who want to be here.

Plus, the coaching staff was showing Dangerfield that it welcomed and had need of another top-notch PG in the program by visiting Alesia Sutton (who is in Dangerfield's class) a couple of weeks ago.
 
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