Darren Hietner NIL lawyer

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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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Not a single thing to worry about.
 
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volfeeva said:
I heard Tenn's Attorney General on the Clay/Buck talk show and he seemed pretty confident that the NCAA is out of bounds. Our defense centers around anti-trust laws among a host of other issues. And I think Tenn AD and staff getting out firm on fighting this will help keep from losing players.
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We need to do to the NCAA, what Coach Majors said, Attack! Attack! Attack!
 
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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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Lost me at Finebaum today…….. 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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“The moment they come to try to interfere with one of my clients’ deals, the next day is the moment they get hit with an antitrust lawsuit,” attorney Mike Caspino, who negotiated the $8 million NIL contract (Nico’s) and others like it, said of the NCAA in May 2022. “They’re saying there’s a whole class of people (boosters) who can’t participate in the market for athletes’ NIL rights. That’d be like saying red-haired people can’t buy meat. That’s antitrust.”

Michael Caspino is with Forward Counsel in Newport Beach, CA
-well-known in the legal community for his work as a first-chair trial attorney in hundreds of cases across the country
-often involve high-stakes litigation in business and employment law.
-became a household name in college sports when it was revealed he represented a five-star recruit who signed a NIL deal with a collective worth an estimated $8 million
 
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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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There is no possible way that the University of Tennessee, the State of Tennessee, and the State of Virginia launch this lawsuit and take the undeniably strong position that they have if they think this thing is going to go south on them. Besides, you want to see things get tough on the NCAA? These states will absolutely shut them down in a heartbeat or at least make it harder to do anything within their confines - win or lose on this.

The case law is pretty clear. SCOTUS has been very clear about the NCAA’s untenable position on this and other bizarre positions that they seem to be taking.

Finebaum is stirring the pot for his gump fan base by finding anyone to come on and take a contrarian position.
 
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DaddyChad said:
There is no conceivable way the NCAA wins in a court of law. NCAA will be lucky if it’s an entity by the time all of this plays out.
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Just my opinion, but I think all of this is a poke the bear situation, where if UT's found guilty, there's probably 50 other schools that will be lined up for next up. I think they'll use it to formulate more strict go forward agenda, which is needed, but no one wanted to address until now they're gone public w/ high profile university.
 
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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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Did he explain how he came to be well-versed in what evidence the NCAA has? This sounds like the kind of speculation typically heard on Finebaum's show.

Not just good for anything, actually.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
I also heard this guy on Finebaum, he was not attacking TN or defending NCAA, just stating a legal opinion so if you didn't see him, to write him off as a Finebaum hack is simply not accurate. He just stated the NCAA is basically not a toothless tiger to be dismissed. As LWSVOL said above, not enough is known about anything to determine who is right or wrong. Not enough is known to be nervous or to feel okay at this point.
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STFU with that fair assessment and reasonable approach. COMMUNIST!!
 
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The enforcement of retroactive rules, guidelines, etc is simply wrong. But so is a lot of $h!t in this country today.

I do think the suit Tennessee & Virginia has will have more partners if NCAA continues their witch-hunt
 
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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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Good thing The University of Tennessee isn't listed on any of the documents/ contracts from the NIL group.
 
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Assuming the NCAA will still be around in 2 years is quite the leap from this “lawyer”
 
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Did Mr. Hietner verbalize his assumed evidence? Or did he mimick Adam Schiff?

If he verbalized evidence that UT states is false then UT has a slander suit.
 
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volfeeva said:
I heard Tenn's Attorney General on the Clay/Buck talk show and he seemed pretty confident that the NCAA is out of bounds. Our defense centers around anti-trust laws among a host of other issues. And I think Tenn AD and staff getting out firm on fighting this will help keep from losing players.
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I think AG Skrmetti could ride this all the way to the Governors mansion. Riding to the defense with this lawsuit is red meat to TN voters, regardless of party.
 
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Lol.
onevol74 said:
Did Mr. Hietner verbalize his assumed evidence? Or did he mimick Adam Schiff?

If he verbalized evidence that UT states is false then UT has a slander suit.
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Lol.

Who knew there were so many lawyers in this forum? Too bad they all work for Dunning-Kruger. 🙄
 
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ftsandersvol said:
I believe the problem is the NIL rules aren't exactly clear and at times even seem contradictory.
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You are correct and that makes the NCAA look even worse. They are trying to make up rules as they go. There was literally nothing even remotely illegal about Nico’s deal. It seems to me the NCAA is trying to think they can circumvent California state law. The courts have already ruled on the student athletes side.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
I think AG Skrmetti could ride this all the way to the Governors mansion. Riding to the defense with this lawsuit is red meat to TN voters, regardless of party.
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The fact that our state representatives are tweeting out their support for TN tells you a lot. The NCAA has picked the wrong fight. Bill Lee has already tweeted out his support of Donde and TN.
 
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DaddyChad said:
There is no conceivable way the NCAA wins in a court of law. NCAA will be lucky if it’s an entity by the time all of this plays out.
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Honestly, there really isn't much of an NCAA left to defend. They have basically no legitimacy in the eyes of the public, and much of their enforcement powers re: benefits to athletes was removed after Alston. If they lose this legal battle, and therefore their authority to regulate NIL, then there really is no reason for them to exist.

It's quite possible they deem this as a hill worthy of dying on to preserve whatever power they have left.
 
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