Darren Hietner NIL lawyer

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DaddyChad said:
I mean he’s a lawyer. He’s going to play up the ncaa as being a bear with teeth bc it’s his job to defend clients against them. In reality you wouldn’t have two state AGs jumping on this if they didn’t think they had a compelling case against the NCAA. Likely the university and Spyre also file suit against them as well. NCAA is going to have to defend themselves on multiple fronts. They’ve never showed to be super competent in defending their positions in the courts in the past; doubt that’s changed here.
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Let’s hope so my Vol brother
 
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Car Collection

What a joke this is. Every top player in the country has luxury cars, jewelry and monthly money coming in in the millions of dollars but yet the corrupt NCAA choose to go after only FSU, Florida and Tenn so far.

Here is an example of Shedeur Sanders car collection Mercedes Maybach, Royce Royce and other luxury cars way over $700,000 just in cars alone but yet no investigation of Colorado???
 
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CeJayVols said:
Car Collection

What a joke this is. Every top player in the country has luxury cars, jewelry and monthly money coming in in the millions of dollars but yet the corrupt NCAA choose to go after only FSU, Florida and Tenn so far.

Here is an example of Shedeur Sanders car collection Mercedes Maybach, Royce Royce and other luxury cars way over $700,000 just in cars alone but yet no investigation of Colorado???
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Oh don’t worry Colorado will be looked at as well. They just don’t move the needle like an SEC team with a QB like Nico. This is just the start of the enforcement. Any team that’s not Bama, Georgia, Ohio State must be brought to heel; don’t worry about those kids without a pot to piss in suddenly having new SUVs the moment they sign with Bama or the fact that BS has went in for years.
 
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This case will probably go to the Discovery part.
The NCAA cannot risk the exposure and it will be the end of it.
If they do have to provide the Discovery it will bury them in their ability to oversee College Athletics.
Then the question will be is has the NCAA overstepped their boundaries in governance and why have they not applied everything equally with or without providing rules.
How much money has been made over the years at the College Athletics/Athletes expense.
This thing is a can of worms for the NCAA.

I think the NCAA will attempt to negotiate a settlement before it goes too far, but it may have already reached a point. My far fetched thoughts is that Saban is somewhere in the pile of Sh**.
 
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AllVolBallYall said:
Agree. Remember when UNC's Tez Walker's was denied eligibility just last season? The NCAA suddenly reversed course when they "received new information". What was that new information? That they were about to get dragged into federal court. And granting Walker's eligibility didn't prevent legal action anyway. North Carolina's AG filed a lawsuit in December that has now been joined by the Justice Department and nine other states. The NCAA will cease to exist maybe even sooner than anyone thinks possible.

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Justice Department Joins Lawsuit Challenging National Collegiate Athletics Association’s (NCAA) Transfer Eligibility Rule

Today, the Justice Department joined 10 states and the District of Columbia in a civil antitrust lawsuit challenging the National Collegiate Athletics Association’s (NCAA) Transfer Eligibility Rule. The amended complaint alleges that the NCAA unreasonably restricts college athletes’ freedom to...
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The only real question is who will be the keystone in the avalanche, the first school to say enough with this BS, let's do our own thing. Maybe that's what we're seeing with Tennessee.
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Now three states are suing the NCAA as well as certain universities and individuals.

Good. Time for others to jump on the legal remedies against the jackwagons at the NCAA.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I agree with you. I told my oldest son that it would be like making the use of seatbelts retroactive and sending out tickets for violation of the seatbelt law to persons who were driving age at that time.
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I'm not sure that's a good comparison. This is more along the lines of we currently have a bunch of questionable seatbelt violations and are hoping sometime down the road that the Court decides to deem those tickets we received unenforceable.
 
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The NCAA couldn’t punish basketball coaches caught on Federal wiretaps talking about paying players, but we’re supposed to believe they will be able to punish UT based on a rule that:
A) They put into place and decided to retroactively enforce
B) Violates the NIL laws of several states
C) Knowing any court case will most likely end up in front of nine justices that can’t agree on the definition of a woman but all nine have already agreed the NCAA business model is in direct violation of The Sherman Act
 
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Volteacher said:
I was watching Finebaum today and he had a NIL lawyer and law professor at Miami and was saying that Tennessee’s case against NCAA not anywhere close to a slam dunk case and that their arguments in a federal court based on the evidence the NCAA has a case and could lay the hammer on Tennessee but…….

Litigation could take up to 2 years and even more if it is appealed and that they NCAA would not lay the hammer because they don’t want all the bad publicity.

Just good for thought…..
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How can this guy know the charges when no charges have been presented? There are NO NOA (notice of allegations) . For the NCAA to charge any school a formal NOA has to be sent to the school outlining the charge or charges. There are none the NCAA is fishing. This guy is assuming they have found something.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
This case will probably go to the Discovery part.
The NCAA cannot risk the exposure and it will be the end of it.
If they do have to provide the Discovery it will bury them in their ability to oversee College Athletics.
Then the question will be is has the NCAA overstepped their boundaries in governance and why have they not applied everything equally with or without providing rules.
How much money has been made over the years at the College Athletics/Athletes expense.
This thing is a can of worms for the NCAA.

I think the NCAA will attempt to negotiate a settlement before it goes too far, but it may have already reached a point. My far fetched thoughts is that Saban is somewhere in the pile of Sh**.
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I agree 99%. I’m not sure about Saban bc I don’t think the NCAA needs help in being incompetent and vindictive
 
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freedom fighter said:
Maybe to you, Spyre double checked everything. I have had social interaction with potential recruits, parents,relatives, and coaches for 40 years. I know every rule, no problems.
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What part of Supreme Court ruling that the NCAA's rules about NIL were illegal did you miss?

The 9-0 NCAA ruling in NCAA vs Alston made it pretty clear.

The law overrides any businesses' rules every time.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
Agree with your comments, I would like to add let’s look at it like this.

The NCAA has been sketchy in the way they created unclear and confusing rules from start and now rumors are they are looking at 5-20 universities to investigate as a start.

Let’s say somewhere along the way UT did have a minor violation involving a recruit but NCAA wants to use a microscope to try to make something out of all the NIL deals ala a fishing expedition. UT tried to have discussion with NCAA president but he ghosted them. So a couple of AGs stepped in and said NCAA you are bullying schools over NIL that you should not even be looking at so we are taking you to court and removing all future NIL oversight out of your hands. The AGs know if this gets to SCOTUS again the NCAA is toast and the NCAA seems to be 0fer lately.

So even if UT has violation if they wipe all NIL oversight from NCAA, the NCAA will be the big loser and 4 years down the road, UT may get a small penalty if the NCAA even exists.
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A small pdalty for what? Nothing says an nil group cant give a player a free plane ride.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
There are no NIL experts. It's brand new and it's constantly changing. Having a lawyer on talking about being "NIL expert" is like having somebody in a news articles being a "relationship expert"
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Ikr .. 😂 I was like ‘that’s not a thing’ 😂
 
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NIL lawyer???? WTF does that even mean. Starving lawyer trying to get in on a new thing?
 
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CeJayVols said:
Car Collection

What a joke this is. Every top player in the country has luxury cars, jewelry and monthly money coming in in the millions of dollars but yet the corrupt NCAA choose to go after only FSU, Florida and Tenn so far.

Here is an example of Shedeur Sanders car collection Mercedes Maybach, Royce Royce and other luxury cars way over $700,000 just in cars alone but yet no investigation of Colorado???
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Honestly Shedeur and Arch are probably the handful that actually has a name and image that would have a really marketing value because of their family name.
I can honestly see his NIL eval
 
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