Dave Hart and the Lady Vols logo

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#77
rocky top buzz said:
...Not trying to take away from the discussion, just trying to say lets not pretend this wil have an impact on donors.
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I'm not arguing with this, but it's a sad state of affairs when only the threat of potential donation drops would keep Cheek and company from screwing around with tradition.
 
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Years ago, when they created the Lady Vols logo, I wasn't really thrilled about it. It took awhile to grow on me, and to take a measure of pride in it. And if they had decided to eliminate it then, it wouldn't have bothered me at all.

However, that changed one fateful day. I was watching a game one afternoon one afternoon against vanderbilt. I had heard announcers call vandy's squad the Lady commodores, but at one point they explained that they preferred to be known as commodores. OK by me, because none of the vanderbilt players seemed to be ladies at all.

Now, they are eliminating it? Why? Are we trying to be like vanderbilt? That was the first thought that entered my head when I heard the news.

If they want to clean up the palate, fine. I never cared for the North Carolina blue being mixed into the uniforms, and if shades of gray or grey is preferable, then replace the blue with it. However, Lady Vols set a standard for women's athletics, and I do not see it as a term meaning they are a less than a Vol. I see it as a title of special respect that a lost list of female athletes who wore orange have more than earned. I say keep it for all our female athletes.
 
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#82
The term Lady Vols is ANTIQUATED, but I get that Southern Ladies, with their 1950s mentality, are attached to it. Thankfully, none of one the other women's teams use the term, and the basketball team should drop it too. I get that it's been associated with the women's basketball team for a long time, but we don't need it anymore--and not using it would reinforce the idea of social and athletic equality. That's important to a lot of women, but maybe not to the "ladies" of the state of Tennessee.
 
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What gets me is that we're not supposed to care when they arbitrarily (and it is arbitrary) lop off another tradition. Why bother getting attached to the color orange or the checkerboard? They could change it tomorrow, and then tell you you're such a chump for ever having cared about it.
 
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armchair said:
The term Lady Vols is ANTIQUATED, but I get that Southern Ladies, with their 1950s mentality, are attached to it. Thankfully, none of one the other women's teams use the term, and the basketball team should drop it too. I get that it's been associated with the women's basketball team for a long time, but we don't need it anymore--and not using it would reinforce the idea of social and athletic equality. That's important to a lot of women, but maybe not to the "ladies" of the state of Tennessee.
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Stupid statement. You think southern women are the only ones that like to be referred to as ladies? Not using the Lady Vols logo does not reinforce the idea of social and athletic equality. In the purest sense, the only way that happens is for all teams to be open to both genders and not have separate teams for men and women. Any thing other than that is not "social and athletic equality. People like to pick and choose on this subject. You either want them all together or you don't. Title IX says they have their own/equal opportunities.
 
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Sandvol said:
I wish the Knoxville News Papers would follow up on this.
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I have always respected and enjoyed your posts/input/opinions. But do you really think the KNS will do anything but follow its own agenda? (Regardless of truth or accuracy.)
 
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vol66 said:
"Brand consistency across the university is critical as we strive to become a top 25 public research university," said Chancellor Jimmy G. Cheek. "It is important that we take advantage of all of the successes across this great campus, both in academics and athletics."

What does that even mean?
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I'm not trying to insert politics, but "public research" is research funded by tax money--government grants. Right?

That would indicate the call for the name changes came from Washington--not private donors, not administrators, not faculty. Does anyone believe federal grants would be withhold because a university lacked "brand consistency?"

"Sorry, UT. You have block letters on some jerseys and script fonts on others--No cancer research for you!"

There's a reason they call it political correctness... it's only correct because some political entity demands it with the threat of penalty. Guess we'll have to call Fox News. They're the only ones anymore who investigate this stuff.
 
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