Davies Suspended from BYU's Squad

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nbakerld said:
He had a choice. LDS kids from Provo go elsewhere all the time. It's not like they are going to get shunned. Tai Wesley (whose older bro played for BYU) is at Utah St. BYU would be a serious contender if he were on their squad. Xavier Sua'Filo (or whatever) was a 4-star OL last year that went to UCLA.
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That's garbage. I've been assured those kids have one choice and one choice only. Quit spreading misinformation.
 
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NochNoch said:
I preface this post by saying that I have absolutely no clue how accurate this description of campus life at BYU is like but I did still find it interesting.

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From an anonymous former alum:
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IMO the article is mostly accurate and he makes good points. Athletes got away with more while he was there but things changed after the gang bang.

I do disagree with him when he assumes BYU expidited this. I had 2 non-athlete friends booted and it was quick deliberation. Not to mention Davies hasn't been dismissed from school, just hoops, so they seem to be taking their time.

I also disagree with his point shaming BYU for making this so public. There is no other way. He's high profile. He got kicked off the team. What else were people going to think. Everyone knew what it was right away and there was no way around it. BYU never said what it was about either, just honor code.

Note: also there are plenty of students who strictly adhere to the Honor code, but people like myself and the author don't interact with them.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
his adopted LDS parents are from Provo, not lubbock, evansville, or dayton. Poor kid had no choice.
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I like the way this is going. We should protect the guy's individual freedoms by removing any notion of his ability to make an individual choice or to freely bargain for an agreement to which both parties freely entered.

I'm learning a lot.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
He knew the rule when he signed on, as all on here have said.

How much of option he had on what school he could attend is more information that any of us know, but I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb to say he was at least "strongly encouraged" to go to the LDS mothership. And that is the part I feel bad for him about.[/QUOTE]

What the heck does that have to do with him choosing to break the code?
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nbakerld said:
IMO the article is mostly accurate and he makes good points. Athletes got away with more while he was there but things changed after the gang bang.

I do disagree with him when he assumes BYU expidited this. I had 2 non-athlete friends booted and it was quick deliberation. Not to mention Davies hasn't been dismissed from school, just hoops, so they seem to be taking their time.

I also disagree with his point shaming BYU for making this so public. There is no other way. He's high profile. He got kicked off the team. What else were people going to think. Everyone knew what it was right away and there was no way around it. BYU never said what it was about either, just honor code.

Note: also there are plenty of students who strictly adhere to the Honor code, but people like myself and the author don't interact with them.
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Interesting, thanks for your take. As I echoed Hat's comment in a previous post, I do tend to believe somewhat in the section I pulled out in that first post. You are right, he's high profile and that makes it harder to keep off the radar but, regardless of whether or not it would have happened in the exact same way to a non athlete, it seems like a perfect opportunity for the school to prosper at the kid's expense.

As for the timing issue, I'll defer to your knowledge on the subject, anything else is just a guess on my part.
 
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NochNoch said:
Interesting, thanks for your take. As I echoed Hat's comment in a previous post, I do tend to believe somewhat in the section I pulled out in that first post. You are right, he's high profile and that makes it harder to keep off the radar but, regardless of whether or not it would have happened in the exact same way to a non athlete, it seems like a perfect opportunity for the school to prosper at the kid's expense.

As for the timing issue, I'll defer to your knowledge on the subject, anything else is just a guess on my part.
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It's a guess for me and the journalist too. I only know of the 2 cases of my friends. He mentioned the 1 case of his friend. Neither of us know what the standard is. It might have been fast simply because Davies may have confessed.

Interestingly in the case of one of my friends, he got booted and his GF didn't and they obviously did the same deed. Kind of funny.
 
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So the kid couldn't go to Utah because of the city in which his adopted parents live?
 
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as hat said. sucks for the kid now, but he'll have his choice of schools to go to. i'd take him at cal in a heartbeat.
 
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#162
Allow me to disspell this garbage: Mormon kids are encouraged to attend BYU or BYU-Idaho if they can, and do in large numbers, but it is in no way required.
 
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my guess is if she wasn't knocked up they wouldn't have kicked him out. i have a friend who follows the program that tells me this was the first discretion by the kid though.
 
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droski said:
my guess is if she wasn't knocked up they wouldn't have kicked him out. i have a friend who follows the program that tells me this was the first discretion by the kid though.
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I don't know if that's accurate. 1 time is usually enough to get you booted as far as I know.
 
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If the suspension doesn't happen in the first place, BYU would've been a Final Four contender.
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govols120 said:
If the suspension doesn't happen in the first place, BYU would've been a Final Four contender.
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I think so. Absolutely. Jimmer couldn't continue to do it by himself. Blast BYU and morals. Who needs morals, anyway?? BTW, not a real BYU fan.
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There's a strong difference in "morals" and "BYU morals."

If you read the bible even you see just how many people slept around or did infinitely worse things, only to be rewarded by god.

Logic dictates then that, had he slept with 300 women, he would have been blessed with the national title and won the MVP instead of Jimmer.
 
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