DC Black Hawk vs Plane crash, Philly Crash. Malicious, or incompotence?

[LouderVol]

Equity doesn't mean equality.

DEI isn't a set of standardized rules -- it's making reasonable accommodations. Y'all get so hung up on the D part that you don't realize the E and I aren't radical things. "Oh we're hiring black midgets with eye problems to be ATCs" (really a quote I heard from one of these guys) isn't DEI and isn't happening.

equity is a harder target to hit than equality, which is why its the new thing. its making a lot of changes, that is difficult if not impossible to say is an actual improvement. ADA is a list of improvements that helps everybody, regardless of their status that puts a protected person on the same level as a normal person.

DEI is making changes that are hard to sell as improvements. Sometimes its a side step, single use bathroom stalls vs group restrooms. nicer for the individual, but takes up more space and costs significantly more money, usually cutting down on the number of actual toilets or whatever than end up being installed. Yay everyone is comfortable using the individual stalls, but now you have lines waiting. that is kinda a best case scenario in the built world. there is a ton that is just straight up bad. again removing stairs to only keep the ramp is the "equitable" solution, that is a straight downgrade.

what DEI "should" be is often far different than DEI put into practice. I deal with the practical, so what it "should" be doesn't go very far.

 

[GVF]

You "wondering" is not remotely evidence that DEI had anything to do with this.

And by your logic above, any time a government agency, at any level, and in any respect, made an error, you could blame DEI because it in theory could always be a distraction. By that logic, its the fault of having government in D.C. that is the cause because its often cold there and the traffic is terrible. Or, if they had a better Starbucks around the corner from the air traffic control tower, then maybe, just maybe, the guy would have been more alert.

Point is, your self-serving speculation that DEI had anything to do with this is not evidence, proof, or even supportive in general.

Except that all these otherwise highly qualified applicants failed their final assessment in one category and were deinied employment: Biogrphical Assessment.
The crux of the lawsuit is that the FAA, under the Obama administration, dropped a skill-based system for hiring controllers and replaced it with a “biographical assessment” in an alleged bid to boost the number of minority job applicants.

Brigida, who is white, alleges he was discriminated against solely based on his race when his application was rejected, court papers state.
The would-be air traffic controller, who graduated from Arizona State University’s collegiate training initiative in 2013, was turned down for a job even though he had scored 100% on his training exam, the lawsuit alleges.

Do tell, if not a DEI hiring process, what other purpose does a Biographical Assesssment serve in lieu of skill-based qualifications. Typically FAA applicants would go through education & training and certification through programs at universities to get into the hiring pool.

 

[Vol737]

Just today was shooting an approach with parallel runways. We were landing on the right side, general aviation aircraft landing on the left. ATC called the traffic on downwind and we knew he was going to be turning base leg putting him 90 degrees off our left coming at us. Had him in sight and sure enough we got our TCAS TA (traffic advisory) at about 350 ft. I want to see the final report on this deal and see if the voice recorder picked up a TA in the RJ cockpit. TCAS will not give a command for corrective action below 1000 ft, but it’s possible they got the TA off the helo at 350.

 

[Orangeburst]

Just today was shooting an approach with parallel runways. We were landing on the right side, general aviation aircraft landing on the left. ATC called the traffic on downwind and we knew he was going to be turning base leg putting him 90 degrees off our left coming at us. Had him in sight and sure enough we got our TCAS TA (traffic advisory) at about 350 ft. I want to see the final report on this deal and see if the voice recorder picked up a TA in the RJ cockpit. TCAS will not give a command for corrective action below 1000 ft, but it’s possible they got the TA off the helo at 350.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Just today was shooting an approach with parallel runways. We were landing on the right side, general aviation aircraft landing on the left. ATC called the traffic on downwind and we knew he was going to be turning base leg putting him 90 degrees off our left coming at us. Had him in sight and sure enough we got our TCAS TA (traffic advisory) at about 350 ft. I want to see the final report on this deal and see if the voice recorder picked up a TA in the RJ cockpit. TCAS will not give a command for corrective action below 1000 ft, but it’s possible they got the TA off the helo at 350.

What do you think about the audio where the pilot is told to maintain altitude of 200-220ft ....but the crash takes place at 350ft or more? Also the last couple videos of the incident posted here that show she traveled forward maybe 500 yards or more and gained the altitude in order to strike the plane? Do you think it was intentional, or accidental? To me, it looks like it was intentional...but I want to believe that a young Army pilot wouldn't kill 60+ innocent people just because she didn't want to be here anymore. Are there duplicate controls on the right side of a Blackhawk like there are in airliners? Wouldnt the copilot also grab the controls and try to avoid the collision if they thought the pilot was gonna kill them?

 

[Vol737]

What do you think about the audio where the pilot is told to maintain altitude of 200-220ft ....but the crash takes place at 350ft or more? Also the last couple videos of the incident posted here that show she traveled forward maybe 500 yards or more and gained the altitude in order to strike the plane? Do you think it was intentional, or accidental? To me, it looks like it was intentional...but I want to believe that a young Army pilot wouldn't kill 60+ innocent people just because she didn't want to be here anymore. Are there duplicate controls on the right side of a Blackhawk like there are in airliners? Wouldnt the copilot also grab the controls and try to avoid the collision if they thought the pilot was gonna kill them?

No, I don’t think it was intentional at all. It was just a horrible accident and something got missed. May have been an incorrect altimeter setting that could have put the helicopter slightly higher than they thought they were. Could have just been a slight deviation in altitude while maneuvering and/or possibly seeing the wrong aircraft. Know way to know until the investigation plays out.

 

[Vol737]

Dupe

 

[SlipKidVol]

Yeah, but not on the Trump scale. He definitely has a type. Bleach blonde, young, tv camera smile and experience. Brunnnettes are ok if they are good looking. Noem. Gabbard. No ugos.

Notice Sarah Huckabee Sanders has not shown up in any relevant way in Trump 2.0. And who is press secretary now?

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