DC Black Hawk vs Plane crash, Philly Crash. Malicious, or incompotence?

[jwells]

I have dealt with several who fulfill that exact role. I know of a couple businesses with a whole department set up to do *something* but is just assumed as a complete loss, no actual expectations. I have some friends that I no longer respect because they took those exact jobs you claim to not exist, several changed the way they self identify for those jobs. I have been forced to work with companies whose whole existence is based on the principle of being the token minority on a government project that requires X level of minority participation, and do literally nothing else.

its not the majority, buts its not a small enough minority to be ignored. it started out as a noble enough initiative but it got corrupted with a quickness to be something that I think is counterproductive to what its original goals were.

I'd take the bet that there are more "Didn't earn it" bosses' kids and good ole boy buddies than there are "DEI" hires not pulling their weight.

Like trans people in sports, we're acting like a few people getting hired here in there is somehow that the whole system is rife with it. In reality, it is like "hey we have a nursing room" or "hey, let's modify the work from the office requirement to be able to recruit nationwide, and have access to talent that maybe can't physically get here"

 

[LouderVol]

I'd take the bet that there are more "Didn't earn it" bosses' kids and good ole boy buddies than there are "DEI" hires not pulling their weight.

Like trans people in sports, we're acting like a few people getting hired here in there is somehow that the whole system is rife with it. In reality, it is like "hey we have a nursing room" or "hey, let's modify the work from the office requirement to be able to recruit nationwide, and have access to talent that maybe can't physically get here"

I definitely don't consider work from home an DEI imitative. that was a response to Covid and technology finally being in a place where its possible.

There may be more of the good ole boy positions, I wouldn't mind getting rid of them either.

the issue is you guys are preaching an IDEAL that doesn't match the reality that several of us have first hand experience with.

 

[jwells]

I definitely don't consider work from home an DEI imitative. that was a response to Covid and technology finally being in a place where its possible.

There may be more of the good ole boy positions, I wouldn't mind getting rid of them either.

the issue is you guys are preaching an IDEAL that doesn't match the reality that several of us have first hand experience with.

Then instead of a it being some bogeyman, let's work towards that ideal? I think corpo faux-DEI is dumb. It's also dumb to dump it once some political headwinds change. You should be seeking to make your place the kind of place top talent wants to be regardless of color, sexuality, disability, etc. The idea we're hiring blind black dwarves (literally what a dude said) for ATC jobs is absurd.

 

[LouderVol]

Then instead of a it being some bogeyman, let's work towards that ideal? I think corpo faux-DEI is dumb. It's also dumb to dump it once some political headwinds change. You should be seeking to make your place the kind of place top talent wants to be regardless of color, sexuality, disability, etc. The idea we're hiring blind black dwarves (literally what a dude said) for ATC jobs is absurd.

I have no problem if the business wants to do it itself. I just don't want to be forced to partake in a system that actively punishes me for participating.

 

[MHS Rebel]

1. DC crash
2. Philadelphia crash

I hate to say it. These things come in threes. Add the Alaska crash.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Search Ongoing In Alaska For Missing Plane With 10 Onboard

The plane was flying from the Alaskan coastal city of Unalakleet to another city along the Bering Sea coast, Nome—a journey that usually takes less than an hour.

www.forbes.com

I'm holding off on flying for a while.

Alaska averages around 100 plane crashes give or take annually.

 

[Ttucke11]

Alaska averages around 100 plane crashes give or take annually.

Surely not of the 10 deaths variety I would think. That's still crazy though.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Don Quixote. Tilting against windmills.

No one is "planting people" in positions. When you think white man is the peak candidate, everything else is "DEI". Just insufferable nonsense.

I assume you are okay with rules regarding veterans receiving preferential interviews and hiring? Where's the "pure merit" there?
I haven't heard much whining from you about the current Trump cabinet sprinkled with people who are, without a doubt, not the most qualified.
His press secretary? I guess her qualifications are...Project 2025.
His Transpo and DOD? They were on Fox?

Come on.

They just get higher up on the qualified list. You don't have to select them if they are terrible and its still based on merit. I know, I've hired hundreds of people into my agency.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

May mean nothing... sure is interesting how they kept her name out of press, then scrubbed her social media, and even her mothers, and two sisters social media completely

 

[LouderVol]

May mean nothing... sure is interesting how they kept her name out of press, then scrubbed her social media, and even her mothers, and two sisters social media completely

does it typically take more than 6 years to get to a training mission over DC?

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

does it typically take more than 6 years to get to a training mission over DC?

I dunno she only had 500 hours, and two of the last years were as a WH aide....rather unusual career track. more likely she was leaving WH cause orange man bad, and was training to pick up where she left off flying. However, that's a rather short number of hours to be flying night near an international airport. But she did KNOW people. In any case none of that in itself says anything, just interesting data points. Just posting things that I think are interesting.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Air traffic controllers say FAA hiring practices, ‘immunity program,’ led to DC plane crash

Air traffic controllers say an FAA “immunity program” fails to hold people accountable for their mistakes, even with deadly consequences.

justthenews.com

 

[hog88]

does it typically take more than 6 years to get to a training mission over DC?

6 years is about right to be an O-3.

Truth is there should very few commissioned officer pilots, the vast majority of pilots in all services and aircraft should be warrant officers. Os have other duties they have to preform to progress in their career besides flying.

 

[LouderVol]

6 years is about right to be an O-3.

Truth is there should very few commissioned officer pilots, the vast majority of pilots in all services and aircraft should be warrant officers. Os have other duties they have to preform to progress in their career besides flying.

so she went from being a desk jockey back to being a pilot which is a bit of "demotion".

that explains, to me at least, all the talking about her having a "career" change.

 

[KB5252]

Plane belonging to Vince Neil out of Williamson County TN was involved in a crash with another plane at the airport in Scottsdale Az. One confirmed dead with multiple other injuries. Story posted about 20 minutes ago on news 5 Nashville website.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Plane belonging to Vince Neil out of Williamson County TN was involved in a crash with another plane at the airport in Scottsdale Az. One confirmed dead with multiple other injuries. Story posted about 20 minutes ago on news 5 Nashville website.