'20 DC FS Mordecai McDaniel (FL commit)

It takes both. Remember that Florida/UGA/Alabama have good coaching as well. I'm still on the fence on Pruitt. Beating Vandy and Mizzou don't really move the needle for me. On the other hand, beating South Carolina had some symbolism. Got the Muschamp Chimp off our back. ESD is less than a week away, and we are ranked 20th in the country by Rivals. Seven SEC teams are ranked ahead of us. South Carolina is neck and neck. Getting to a bowl was huge for this program and fan base. Especially a bowl in the fertile recruiting land of Florida. But remember something. Sometime like 80% of kids have signed at ESD. If we don't ratchet it up, we are going to be fighting the same major talent issues.

Do I think McDaniel is some gigantic implosion? No. Can we afford to lose players a week before ESD that go to our rivals who have owned us? No.

Would you say that McElwain was a good coach? I didn’t think he was. I think he benefitted from a great defense and Botch Jones. Recruiting is a difficult thing. To get the best recruits, you need to win. To win at a high level, you need top notch recruits.

I think people need to stop bringing up teams like UF, UGA and Bama when referring to our recruiting. We just now beat Vandy and Missouri for the first time since what 2015? UF, UGA and Bama haven’t suffered anything close to what we have. Until we start beating the teams we should on a regular basis, we aren’t gonna sniff the big 3 in the SECE.
 
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Would you say that McElwain was a good coach? I didn’t think he was. I think he benefitted from a great defense and Botch Jones. Recruiting is a difficult thing. To get the best recruits, you need to win. To win at a high level, you need top notch recruits.

I think people need to stop bringing up teams like UF, UGA and Bama when referring to our recruiting. We just now beat Vandy and Missouri for the first time since what 2015? UF, UGA and Bama haven’t suffered anything close to what we have. Until we start beating the teams we should on a regular basis, we aren’t gonna sniff the big 3 in the SECE.

I don't think McElwain was a good coach. He benefited from transition at Georgia and Butch. Some people may not want to hear it, but so far Butch has proven more than Pruitt. I'm not a Butch defender, but he lost some games in some utterly unfathomable ways. I don't know UF's recruiting history well, but I'd wager that McElwain didn't recruit very well while he was there. Didn't Trask not have a single D1 offer?

Now I will say this. Recruiting isn't everything anymore. I think Pruitt could avail himself to the transfer portal post ESD. But this is not a good situation at the moment. I also disagree with the sentiment that we need to start beating Vandy and Missouri. We have more talent than those teams.
 
I don't think McElwain was a good coach. He benefited from transition at Georgia and Butch. Some people may not want to hear it, but so far Butch has proven more than Pruitt. I'm not a Butch defender, but he lost some games in some utterly unfathomable ways. I don't know UF's recruiting history well, but I'd wager that McElwain didn't recruit very well while he was there. Didn't Trask not have a single D1 offer?

Now I will say this. Recruiting isn't everything anymore. I think Pruitt could avail himself to the transfer portal post ESD. But this is not a good situation at the moment. I also disagree with the sentiment that we need to start beating Vandy and Missouri. We have more talent than those teams.
Who do you think Mullen is winning with. That’s right!!!! The majority of the recruits he’s winning with are McElwains recruits.
 
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Who do you think Mullen is winning with. That’s right!!!! The majority of the recruits he’s winning with are McElwains recruits.

What has Mullen won? FSU is a joke, we have been a joke, they have no out of conference schedule, and Georgia has beaten them both times. He's a good coach. I wouldn't say great yet. But he's beating the teams he should be beating and not much more.
 

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A lot of this is why I don’t stress about recruiting anymore.

we’re going to get ours. You’re going to get yours. No one has a monopoly on talent.

Are there Eric Berry’s out there that no coach could screw up. Yeah, sure.

But, I think LSU and FSU proved this year what a coach can do in their own way. Hell, Miami found a way to lose to FIU.

at the end of the day, we’re in the SEC. no one is going to “out talent” their way to championships
 

Bottom line is you can only bring in 25 in a calendar class. Last year we signed 22 plus in the fall we gave 3 schollys too PWOs. Hill counts against us too if we give him a scholarship. In the recruiting board I haven't seen anyone assert that we can bring in more than 25.
 
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Dude I have been on 24/7 and other various recruiting sites that are not orange tinted. Why don't you Branch out and try looking at other websites than just this one? I come at you with 18th in the nation because that's the facts. Not some lame ass opinion. That's the difference between our comments. Stop being condescending because we can both play that game.

I think average ranking of player is a better way to look at it. Aside from the top 6-7 teams, there's very little separating the next 14-13 teams. OU and Clemson built elite programs from TN level recruiting, now trench their position with elite classes.

TN's problem has not been recruiting, but more than a decade of poor coaching.
 
Can't take into account what's not tangibly visible. Those other teams I listed could have pleasant surprises too. This is Pruitt's third recruiting class. His best is 12. That's not going to cut it to win championships. If he got to 12 this year, I'd be completely geeked, because the schedule is so weak next year. I think he can win eight games with ease. But then that 2018 recruiting class becomes the core of our roster. This is probably our most recruiting class in ten years, and so far it's underwhelming. Obviously hope it changes directions.
U REALLY think last years class woudl be ranked 12 it were to be re-evaluated?? 3 Fr AA on there etc. cmon man
 
Where is all the blue font? Are there seriously people complaining about Pruitt and Co's recruiting? Is this the same people who complained about Jones lack of development.
 
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