"Death to the BCS" book

#76
#76
GreveHaller said:
your response, duck, is typical of those that do no understand the complete post season college football. Make no mistake of it, there is ONE thing that is the agenda for bowls:

to make money

The schools make money, the conferences make money, the cities make money, the hotels and restaurants make money, the governments collect taxes and make money. This is a multi billion dollar industry for all of them. You do not change your successful business plan unless you are losing money. To make a change, you must KNOW that the change will make more. So far not a single plan has been presented where the system is changed and there is more money. Oh, everyone can tell you have the tournement is set up but no one can show where the money will be the same. . In the end, one of the enties will be screwed. You wanting a tournament does not put one dollar into the coffers of the schools, conferences, hotels, restaurants, bars, and even tax buckets. Once the actual benefits exceed the cost, there will be a change. Until then enjoy seeing #1 vs #2.

Those are the facts.
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The book makes a compelling argument, backed with documents and tax records, that some schools if not most schools do not make money.

Once again, I'll ask the question, if the bowl system is so great, why do no other sports use such a system?
 
#77
#77
GreveHaller said:
your response, duck, is typical of those that do no understand the complete post season college football. Make no mistake of it, there is ONE thing that is the agenda for bowls:

to make money

The schools make money, the conferences make money, the cities make money, the hotels and restaurants make money, the governments collect taxes and make money. This is a multi billion dollar industry for all of them. You do not change your successful business plan unless you are losing money. To make a change, you must KNOW that the change will make more. So far not a single plan has been presented where the system is changed and there is more money. Oh, everyone can tell you have the tournement is set up but no one can show where the money will be the same. . In the end, one of the enties will be screwed. You wanting a tournament does not put one dollar into the coffers of the schools, conferences, hotels, restaurants, bars, and even tax buckets. Once the actual benefits exceed the cost, there will be a change. Until then enjoy seeing #1 vs #2.

Those are the facts.
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You haven't explained anything that leads me to believe that you understand the "complete post season [of] college football" any better than I do. I am aware that various groups involved in the games are in it for the money. Frankly, that is an entirely unremarkable observation.

The money to be made in college football ultimately comes from fans. If there is no fan interest to drive marketing value or make purchases, nobody makes anything. Fans, the source of the money, are widely demanding a play-off. That means that if a play-off were instituted, the source of the money would not change. In fact, it stands to reason that it would increase.

The reason that the powers-that-be object to change is not because college football would generate less money. It's because they would no longer be able to control where that money goes as well as they currently do.

Your entire premise seems to be based on the idea that fans should adopt the same motivations as stakeholders in college football business. The typical fan has no financial stake in the business side of college football. Their stake is in enjoying football games. It's a valid position for a fan to be critical of a system that could be made less controversial in its results and more enjoyable to watch.

To be honest, I think that "you can't want a play-off because other people are making money off of not having one" is one of the weakest counter arguments I've heard against a play-off.
 
#78
#78
DyronNix said:
I didn't realize that each school is stuck with the bill for any tickets in its allotment that it fails to sell.

I read on VT's site that this is one of the ways it loses money on bowl games. VT expects the same hit this year with Orange bowl.
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Well then darn it, We had so many more people at the MCB this year, that means those that bought the allotment of UNC share of tickets sent even more money to UNC. Wow they have just gotten over us every single way you can.:banghead2:
 
#79
#79
After the Rose Bowl, I don't need to read the book again. THAT'S why we need a playoff.

You know what? They might not beat Oregon or Auburn. But what if they had the chance?
 
#80
#80
govols120 said:
After the Rose Bowl, I don't need to read the book again. THAT'S why we need a playoff.

You know what? They might not beat Oregon or Auburn. But what if they had the chance?
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Yep, exactly, we'll never know. Worse, they'll never know. If only UCONN could pull an upset too.
 
#81
#81
How good would an Auburn-TCU matchup have been? TCU's defense is built to stop the spread, so it would've been interesting for sure.
 
#83
#83
govols120 said:
After the Rose Bowl, I don't need to read the book again. THAT'S why we need a playoff.

You know what? They might not beat Oregon or Auburn. But what if they had the chance?
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You were seriously going to read the guy's book twice? Please tell me you were joking.
 
#85
#85
vol66 said:
The book makes a compelling argument, backed with documents and tax records, that some schools if not most schools do not make money.

Once again, I'll ask the question, if the bowl system is so great, why do no other sports use such a system?
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Is this supposed to be a rhetorical. If not, just answer it yourself.
 
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