Deficit up 17%

We always have the money for political and unnecessary wars but for healthcare, education and welfare of the American people.....nada. If we're going to be in debt it should be for something worthwhile.

Well, crap. We have the most expensive educational system/failure in the world, and Dims squealed like little girls when Trump tried to call one war over and bring troops home.
 
So now he's controlled by dems? I had no idea that POTUS was so impotent.

Well, the last time I looked Obama was around for 8 years and Gitmo is still open for business ... and the NYT is running this article:

Guantánamo Bay as Nursing Home: Military Envisions Hospice Care as Terrorism Suspects Age
 
We always have the money for political and unnecessary wars but for healthcare, education and welfare of the American people.....nada. If we're going to be in debt it should be for something worthwhile.
We spend more then any other country on earth in public education. And we don’t get the results. More money is not the problem in education. We keep spending more and falling more behind. Now we do spend way too much blowing up portions of the world far far away. But all the programs you mentioned, including the military, need cuts. None need increases.
 
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We spend more then any other country on earth in public education. And we don’t get the results. More money is not the problem in education. We keep spending more and falling more behind. Now we do spend way too much blowing up portions of the work far far away. But all the programs you mentioned, including the military, need cuts. None need increases.
If we could just spend a little more, if we could just go to war a few more times, everything would be perfect.
 
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What would be worthwhile? Training generations of people to be lazy, worthless, and expecting everything to be handed to them is how you become a 4th world country real fast.

What you lack in brains you make up for in stupidity. Receiving quality healthcare and education at an affordable price does not make people lazy. It actually makes them more productive.
 
If we could just spend a little more, if we could just go to war a few more times, everything would be perfect.

Careful what you ask for. Every time the government does something for us, it's a magnificent flop, a money trap we can't afford, and you can't turn it off.
 
What you lack in brains you make up for in stupidity. Receiving quality healthcare and education at an affordable price does not make people lazy. It actually makes them more productive.
Can people who feel as you simply set up a national fund where yall donate to it monthly and spend to your heart's content?
 
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What you lack in brains you make up for in stupidity. Receiving quality healthcare and education at an affordable price does not make people lazy. It actually makes them more productive.

Well, that's the theory. In reality it turns one sex into an over educated other who still has no qualifications for a job ... but a lot of debt.
 
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Can people who feel as you simply set up a national fund where yall donate to it monthly and spend to your heart's content?

It just doesn't work that way. It's like that recent funding effort for the wall. I believe they came up short by several billion $.
 
It just doesn't work that way. It's like that recent funding effort for the wall. I believe they came up short by several billion $.
You know how else it doesn't work? Going in debt 21T for every good deed someone deems necessary.
There are 50M Democrat voters. Your reps could pass a law where Ds pay $10 per month in D tax and yall would have $500M a month to spend on every social need you like.
 
You know how else it doesn't work? Going in debt 21T for every good deed someone deems necessary.
There are 50M Democrat voters. Your reps could pass a law where Ds pay $10 per month in D tax and yall would have $500M a month to spend on every social need you like.

You know, Dims and libs are sorta like women. You can't live with them ... except with Dims and libs you can live without them, but they just ... won't ... go ... away.
 
You know how else it doesn't work? Going in debt 21T for every good deed someone deems necessary.
There are 50M Democrat voters. Your reps could pass a law where Ds pay $10 per month in D tax and yall would have $500M a month to spend on every social need you like.
You omitted the government management fees... that would leave 50.00/month to spend as they wish.
 
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Any on the Left that want to gloat, don't forget that BO doubled the ND. Half of the interest in the last couple of budgets is on him.
 
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Well, the last time I looked Obama was around for 8 years and Gitmo is still open for business ... and the NYT is running this article:

Guantánamo Bay as Nursing Home: Military Envisions Hospice Care as Terrorism Suspects Age

Gitmo is a stain on the US and every president since it was opened, as a prison. None are immune from criticism and our stance on torture is an embarrassment.
 
What you lack in brains you make up for in stupidity. Receiving quality healthcare and education at an affordable price does not make people lazy. It actually makes them more productive.
Being self driven makes people productive. Earning something instead of being given it makes people more productive.
 
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It just doesn't work that way. It's like that recent funding effort for the wall. I believe they came up short by several billion $.
What people dont actually want to pay for the crap they want? Where have I heard that before?

In my world if you are unwilling to fund something you dont really want it.
 
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Gitmo is a stain on the US and every president since it was opened, as a prison. None are immune from criticism and our stance on torture is an embarrassment.

The only stain is that libs have made sure we waffled and never address who those people actually are and what they have done. The stain would have gone away with releasing any innocents (unlikely), by executing the worst, and put the rest to breaking rocks for a set period of time. "Innocents" released by fools like Obama were caught again doing the same old terrorist things. But then Obama wanted to try people (who slaughtered the real innocents) like they were just good neighborhood boys who knocked off the corner market and only pistol whipped the owners. If the enemy in war doesn't wear a uniform, it doesn't make him a noncombatant; they should simply have been executed on the battlefield.
 
What you lack in brains you make up for in stupidity. Receiving quality healthcare and education at an affordable price does not make people lazy. It actually makes them more productive.

There is no such thing as quality healthcare at affordable prices. Doesn't exist in this country, myth. The cost has been, and now is, totally out of control. There is only one way, ONE, to get the aforementioned, reduce the cost of drugs, doctors and equipment. Can be done easily but difficult to roll back.
 

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